Adama Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 People on twitter spreading lies that IVE achievements are all fakes lol. They can’t stand the fact that not only IVE stomped on their peers in SK but also globally
Adama Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Dialamba said: Crack Yeah anti fragile >> fearless I saw the light Kpop Stans tore this girl down, ****-shamed and said the most vile things to her but that’s Kakao’s fault If they’d trusted her since the beginning she’d have never left the group. well Chaewon was rigged too I guess Hybe/ Woollim paved the way Let’s hope KAKAO buy them a daesang don’t wanna the trash song aka that that taking SOTY over Tomboy or LD. The fact that Chaewon was never in the top 12 during all the competition but somehow managed to debut during the final lol! It’s funny how LSRFM and NJ fans are the loudest when HYBE also bought LSRFM first win, which was proved btw and used payola to put Attention on TTH But Im lowkey enjoying all this, all these fights amoung the 4th gen , it’s the 2nd gen spirit all over again https://youtu.be/KbAYWaXUQhY Edited November 5, 2022 by Adama
Dialamba Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Why are they in their damn business. Calling their success inorganic when IVE stomp them in Korea, Japan and internationally. Crazy.
Hay Amores Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, Adama said: The fact that Chaewon was never in the top 12 during all the competition but somehow managed to debut during the final lol! There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final. So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship.
xrosup Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 19 hours ago, Pluto2022 said: The way this random unpromoted Christmas song is out-streaming and out-viewing all these other 4th gen bg MV's Truly a Kpop Christmas classic Leé Knowles' pre-chorus "Jack Frost coming for y'all, run, run Ppyeokkaji sirige haneun holiday, silence" 17 hours ago, Mitsuki said: Iconic Tiktok viral hit Almost 100M streams on Spotify with the single album 100M views on YouTube and 0 ads 1 Music Show Win (Mubank) 3x Platinum on Circle And they've never promoted this era It's starting to go viral on Tiktok again and gaining streams on Spotify i'll scream if this becomes a seasonal hit for them like AIWFCIY is to Mariah 17 hours ago, Mitsuki said: The whole cover conversation on twt reminded me I love this one of skz members dancing miss A's Goodbye Baby Chan and Lino put their entire bussies into this cover oh my
Zack Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Starship has been fighting fraud/sajaegi allegations for YEARS. They usually use lawsuits to keep the story buried, but it keeps on resurfacing. Plus, even recently, their senior executives were caught in the Mnet rigging scandals. There's no smoke without fire.
OrgVisual Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Woolim bought chaewon's spot but didn't she leave them to join Hype?
Adama Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Hay Amores said: There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final. So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship. They should have released this list btw 6 minutes ago, PowerGarlic said: Then explain why Hype Boy bigger than Attention globally? Anyway this IVE VS Le Sserafim are totally a set up from Garam fandom Because first Hybe boy is the better song and have a better longevity. Attention was bigger in SK at the first too. It’s not only IVE vs LSRFM (which was bound to happen since Wy and Sakura fans hate each others) but it’s now IVE vs NJ (rookie of the year fights), but also AESPA and IVE (global stats and physicals sales fights) and I also saw a lot of onces shading them too (Japan market + ex NGG vs new NGG comparaison) 12 minutes ago, Zack said: Starship has been fighting fraud/sajaegi allegations for YEARS. They usually use lawsuits to keep the story buried, but it keeps on resurfacing. Plus, even recently, their senior executives were caught in the Mnet rigging scandals. There's no smoke without fire. So Starship is also doing Sajaegi globally too?
hallucinate Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Adama said: People on twitter spreading lies that IVE achievements are all fakes lol. They can’t stand the fact that not only IVE stomped on their peers in SK but also globally this can’t be true!!! i can NOT believe it!! starship must’ve hired streaming farms!! Edited November 5, 2022 by hallucinate
lovecatt Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 23 minutes ago, Hay Amores said: There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final. So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship. Chaewon was a woolim trainee though Hybe had nothing to do with her or p48 until probably izone was ending their contract
Zack Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 13 minutes ago, Adama said: So Starship is also doing Sajaegi globally too? Starship executives have been caught in the past destroying evidence. All we can do is comment on what is known to the public
WhalieX Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 41 minutes ago, Dialamba said: Why are they in their damn business. Calling their success inorganic when IVE stomp them in Korea, Japan and internationally. Crazy. They needed a coping mechanism after a directionless year their faves had.
Adama Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, hallucinate said: this can’t be true!!! i can NOT believe it!! starship must’ve hired streaming farms!! Starship is doing sajaegi on spotify, youtube, apple music, billboard,FLO, Genie, Bugs,Vibes and melon ofc (since it’s owned by kakao duh). I guess, they also faked IVE physicals in Hanteo and Circle too ! They even did sajaegi on tik tok for Dear Cupid, could you imagine
EBT Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 45 minutes ago, Hay Amores said: There's no definite proof that Chaewon is rigged tho. Han Chowon, the alleged rank 6th on Produce 48 also never landed on Top 12 the entire competition before final. So the rumor about Chaewon is the rigged one is just as good as Wonyoung the rigged centre of izone. I guess it's Hybe 1 : 1 Starship. She ranked 9th then 13th for the rest of the competition. Chaewon never got higher than 15th.
Mitsuki Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 50 minutes ago, xrosup said: It's starting to go viral on Tiktok again and gaining streams on Spotify i'll scream if this becomes a seasonal hit for them like AIWFCIY is to Mariah Chan and Lino put their entire bussies into this cover oh my It will be legendary If happens I was seeing this video is gaining traction Edited November 5, 2022 by Mitsuki
hallucinate Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, Adama said: Starship is doing sajaegi on spotify, youtube, apple music, billboard,FLO, Genie, Bugs,Vibes and melon ofc (since it’s owned by kakao duh). I guess, they also faked IVE physicals in Hanteo and Circle too ! They even did sajaegi on tik tok for Dear Cupid, could you imagine right, i also heard they invented brainwashing machines to manipulate people into becoming IVE fans
Hay Amores Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 10 minutes ago, EBT said: She ranked 9th then 13th for the rest of the competition. Chaewon never got higher than 15th. Oop I stand corrected, Chowon did get the 9th rank once. But Chaewon was also on the Top 12 once, she even got the better rank trajectory than Chowon.
EBT Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hay Amores said: Oop I stand corrected, Chowon did get the 9th rank once. But Chaewon was also on the Top 12 once, she even got the better rank trajectory than Chowon. Now I love Chaewon and she is so close to being my ULT but No, she never made it to top 12 till debut. As far and trajectory, Chowon went 88-47-9. Sometimes a little rigging is needed...
Adama Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 26 minutes ago, discreetinside said: Any surprises? IVE is really the new NGG And also the video kinda confirmed what I said about how young males in SK are more interested in rappers than bg. All these SMTM rappers like BEO,Sokodomo etc it’s what they listen. Can’t blame them since they make better music than these 4th gen bg.
Zack Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 KARINA did that in less than 2 years SM needs to start pushing her (and Winter) to solo CFs though.
BlackAura Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 Wait, why does this song starts exactly as Black Mamba ??
BowWow Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, BlackAura said: Wait, why does this song starts exactly as Black Mamba ?? Iggy the blueprint that’s why also cuz girlcrush sounds like 2013 rejects everybody say thank u blackpink
Witnessed ET Posted November 5, 2022 Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Dialamba said: Why are they in their damn business. Calling their success inorganic when IVE stomp them in Korea, Japan and internationally. Crazy. The way they’re threatened by IVE’s success and are now trying to turn this around on them yeah, they can cry more. IVE will keep thriving.
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