fan base K-Pop Thread: 2022 Archive

[Zack]

Jessica fashion leader as always.

She looks so good in denim (and it's her own design )

 

 

 

[Hazy]

9 minutes ago, Héloïse said:

wait, I haven't even notice most of these

all of them being black artists, this is so wrong 

it’s not even surprising considering Teddy is working on those songs and even in Netflix documentary he mentions his influences 

 

whole k-pop culture is stealing from western hip-hop culture and is made to break into and inspire from western market, it’s nothing uncommon, I thought kpop fans would be aware of that 

 

I think those were actually some nice shout outs and inclusions, my only concern is the copyright issue, no idea how that should be regulated and if Teddy, YG and Interscope did their thing properly 

[Zack]

A summer smash! 

So annoyed that SM has denied them a summer comeback this year. 

 

 

 

[thirdward]

the fake concern about stealing from black people this is the kpop thread like   let’s chill

that same TikTok account tried to make it seem like renaissance was a stolen album bc of all the samples   

[Dialamba]

1 hour ago, State of Grace. said:

 

HOLY SHITT 4TH GEN LEADERS LETS GO

 

Edit: Its not even a full day and not a Friday release. Love Dive increased throughout the week.

 

Not even a full day.  IVE streams, Sales, charts, an it girl. 

 

Brave and basics >>> but all the budget and qualify went into nayeonce. I’m the way to become a nayeon akgae I fear 

[Hazy]

Just now, thirdward said:

the fake concern about stealing from black people this is the kpop thread like   let’s chill

that same TikTok account tried to make it seem like renaissance was a stolen album bc of all the samples   

some people here try to be fake woke every now and then, especially when it comes to the groups they don’t really like or support 

[Dialamba]

20 minutes ago, Hazy said:

maybe because those are not samples but interpolations and there is difference between two? 

Thank u. People keep saying AL is sample but it’s an interpolation too. 
Even HYLT has sample, sometimes the writers aren’t credited doesn’t mean Teddy stole from the writers and producers. 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Dialamba

[Sorecer]

Key went to see Taeyeon in the recording studio 

 

 

 

[OrgVisual]

9 minutes ago, Hazy said:

sampling is when you take literal part of the song and put it in the new song, re: After Like 

 

I don’t know how those things work, but I refuse to believe they just went away with it knowing BP has ww recognition and they could get in REAL troubles 

 

if they didn’t cleared it, that’s on Teddy and there are lawsuits incoming, we will see 

 

if it would be just the flow, then maybe it would be something like rappers using other rappers’ flows, but there is also a portion of lyrics then, so I have no idea 

Even interpolation needs credits. Like Olivia gave Taylor credits for the interpolation of New's Year Day. and then on Deja Vu later on 

 

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This is called interpolation and can be a cheaper alternative to sampling an original master recording. It still requires the purchase of a mechanical license and requires giving credit to the original composer

 

[Zack]

Giselle confirmed that her ear monitor was malfunctioning during the SMTOWN performance. 

 

Shame on all the people who just used it as an excuse to attack her. Technical issues are not her fault. 

 

 

[Eternium]

 

23 minutes ago, Sept said:

 

 

 

How come the Pinks didn't give credits to these artists? 

 

Maybe good sis @Kh-Loud made a point

 

The first two, yes. They’re clearly intentional and the artists were probably paid straight up for the interpolation. You don’t have to include someone in the credits for them to be reimbursed - literally millions of songs use stem packs but you don’t see the original creators credited. 
 

The last one is a massive reach. 50 Cent did not create “You can’t get a dollar out of me” and that’s only half of BlackPink’s bar. If Lil Wayne had said the same thing, you guys wouldn’t be calling it a rip  

[State of Grace.]

LOVE DIVE's 1st week on Spotify:

 

1st day: 1,078,894

2nd day: 1,884,492

3rd day: 1,780,030

4th day: 1,716,047

5th day: 1,557,302

6th day: 1,492,249

7th day: 1,601,854

 

It holds the top 4 biggest streaming days + biggest 1st week streams debut for a song by a 4th gen GG

 

The collapse if After Like follows it and becomes even bigger

 

Edited August 23, 2022 by State of Grace.

[Hazy]

1 minute ago, Dialamba said:

Thank u. People keep saying AL is sample but it’s an interpolation too. 
Even HYLT has sample, sometimes the writers aren’t credited doesn’t mean Teddy stole from the writers and producers. 

AL doesn’t have sample? now I’m confused 

 

or maybe it’s interpolation because it’s used only in a portion of the song and not throughout it? it’s complicated 

[Sorecer]

Make it happen 

we need that MV

 

 

[OrgVisual]

7 minutes ago, thirdward said:

the fake concern about stealing from black people this is the kpop thread like   let’s chill

that same TikTok account tried to make it seem like renaissance was a stolen album bc of all the samples   

As a Beyonce fan, u should know better since Renaissance is indeed full of samples (which is literally the point of the album) but Queen Bey gave credits to everyone. That's why there are like 20 songwriters involved in a song

[OrgVisual]

1 minute ago, Hazy said:

AL doesn’t have sample? now I’m confused 

 

or maybe it’s interpolation because it’s used only in a portion of the song and not throughout it? it’s complicated 

But the original writers were credited on After Like. So it doesn't matter

[Sorecer]

3 minutes ago, Sorecer said:

Make it happen 

we need that MV

 

 

I'm obsessed with this song 

Yoona's rap 

 

 

[Spark]

9 minutes ago, Zack said:

So annoyed that SM has denied them a summer comeback this year. 

No shade but their two other summer comebacks have all paled in comparison to Red Flavor and don't even chart that well anymore. I think they're smart to avoid summer now, or at least a summer concept. If they wanna comeback in June - August, they should do bright but not summer concepts like Queendom.

[Eternium]

11 minutes ago, Hazy said:

it’s not even surprising considering Teddy is working on those songs and even in Netflix documentary he mentions his influences 

 

whole k-pop culture is stealing from western hip-hop culture and is made to break into and inspire from western market, it’s nothing uncommon, I thought kpop fans would be aware of that 

 

I think those were actually some nice shout outs and inclusions, my only concern is the copyright issue, no idea how that should be regulated and if Teddy, YG and Interscope did their thing properly 

 

12 minutes ago, Héloïse said:

the group has a big history of stealing black culture, so yeah it feels wrong.

Such stupid takes and you girls should honestly feel embarrassed for trying to use the plight of black oppression to hate on a girl group you don’t like. Western culture has always been about global saturation and influence - it’s impossible to name a singular point in history where the top Western countries weren’t trying to extend their global influence. You can’t be mad at Eastern artists for being influenced by something that was created and pushed with the goal of global influence and domination  

3 minutes ago, Sept said:

Even interpolation needs credits. Like Olivia gave Taylor credits for the interpolation of New's Year Day. and then on Deja Vu later on 

 

 

Incorrect. Look at the credits on Anne-Marie’s “2002.” When you interpolate, you can always pay the artist upfront and you don’t have to include them in the credits. The credits aren’t actually a list of who worked on the song - they’re a list of who gets royalties.

[Spark]

 

First Chungha, and now Hyolyn. Lord, literally every female soloist in the game acknowledges HyunA's status even during her flop era. Even Somi copied HyunA (leaving JYP). 

 

Notice how nobody ever does this for Sunmi (likely due to having less impact and bad personality). 

Edited August 23, 2022 by Spark

[Cotton]

15 minutes ago, thirdward said:

the fake concern about stealing from black people this is the kpop thread like   let’s chill

that same TikTok account tried to make it seem like renaissance was a stolen album bc of all the samples   

I mean there’s a lot of Kpop songs that are obviously influenced by black culture whether it’s the sound or concept. It’s not just Kpop influenced anyway so I don’t think there’s anything wrong with pointing it out 

[OrgVisual]

4 minutes ago, Eternium said:

 

Incorrect. Look at the credits on Anne-Marie’s “2002.” When you interpolate, you can always pay the artist upfront and you don’t have to include them in the credits. The credits aren’t actually a list of who worked on the song - they’re a list of who gets royalties.

Not quite. There are like 20 songwriters credited on its wikipedia and on Allmusic. 

[Sorecer]

9 minutes ago, Sorecer said:

I'm obsessed with this song 

Yoona's rap 

 

 

Tiffany is so happy 

 

 

[OrgVisual]

Yoona's rap part is truly the highlight of Villain  

So addictive

[Cotton]

I mean using the same line and melody requires credit no? But at the same time I doubt Teddy is stupid enough to not have gone through the necessary procedures to use it in the song with a global act like BP.