fan base Taylor Swift

[1989]

2 minutes ago, By the Water said:

This is just her AMAs performance + YBWM 

She’d do it again for the SB 

[beagle]

19 hours ago, Taylor fanboy said:

The gorgeous @beagle may be able to give his/her/their free legal advice.

 

Gorgeous is laying it on a little thick, but anyway, it is because Taylor is sadly a flop now and must have been dropped by Republic :(

 

Actually, as I'm a corporate, but not an IP lawyer, I may be wrong, but my semi-educated guess is that the simplest explanation is true: Taylor has not granted Republic/UMG an exclusive license to her music. In general, labels insist on artists signing perpetual grants - ie transferring the right to collect the negotiated proportion of royalties for the duration of the artists lifetime + 70 years. This is the case for the first 6 albums that are currently held by Apollo. If the artist insists on retaining ownership of their masters, in most cases the label would expect at least an exclusive license deal, in which they are able to collect their share for a fixed time period, after which all rights revert back to the artist. Crucially, the exclusive license generally grants control over the recording, which is enforceable even against the artist. As an example, an artist who has given their label an exclusive license would not be able to remove their songs from Spotify because they disagree with Joe Rogan. In Taylor's case, I'd guess that she has decided that Republic may have some share of the revenue, but no control. I'd assume that less middlemen also mean more money for Taylor.

 

Incidentally, Taylor is domiciled in Tennessee for tax purposes, right?

 

 

[Klein]

Ever since someone posted that video here, Cruel Summer is the ultimate opener in my head 

 

For the Superbowl setlist, I'd imagine: 

 

Cruel Summer - intro (which would make for an epic entrance, unlike Ready For Cringe)

Blank Space

We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together

Love Story 

You Belong With Me (with marching band, I love the idea)

Shake It Off (still profiting from the marching band)

New song from her upcoming pop-rock album (or Style could do)

Wildest Dream (start with the piano, end with the studio version, pretty much like during the 1989 World Tour)

 

I usually like when there are guests in Superbowl performances, but I don't think it would make sense for her to bring anyone other than a country artist, and I'm not too sure about a full on country song in the middle of a Superbowl set. Justin to do exile would also be weird as the song is way too slow/sad for a performance like that. Or maybe if she somehow features Harry Style on Style for 1989 TV then that would be okay I guess.

 

I could see the YBWM/SIO part switched with the next 2 (in order to finish with the really upbeat SIO), but I really love the idea of ending on Wildest Dream which is by far one of the best song of her entire career. 

[JorgeM]

1 hour ago, beagle said:

Gorgeous is laying it on a little thick, but anyway, it is because Taylor is sadly a flop now and must have been dropped by Republic :(

 

Actually, as I'm a corporate, but not an IP lawyer, I may be wrong, but my semi-educated guess is that the simplest explanation is true: Taylor has not granted Republic/UMG an exclusive license to her music. In general, labels insist on artists signing perpetual grants - ie transferring the right to collect the negotiated proportion of royalties for the duration of the artists lifetime + 70 years. This is the case for the first 6 albums that are currently held by Apollo. If the artist insists on retaining ownership of their masters, in most cases the label would expect at least an exclusive license deal, in which they are able to collect their share for a fixed time period, after which all rights revert back to the artist. Crucially, the exclusive license generally grants control over the recording, which is enforceable even against the artist. As an example, an artist who has given their label an exclusive license would not be able to remove their songs from Spotify because they disagree with Joe Rogan. In Taylor's case, I'd guess that she has decided that Republic may have some share of the revenue, but no control. I'd assume that less middlemen also mean more money for Taylor.

 

Incidentally, Taylor is domiciled in Tennessee for tax purposes, right?

 

 

Thank you for the answer, quite interesting, so she may has more control over her masters than 99% of artists

[pccp]

Why do people think Taylor will perform at SB right now ?????.

[wastedpotential]

23 minutes ago, pccp said:

Why do people think Taylor will perform at SB right now ?????.

She and Rihanna are basically the only two big artists left these days that haven't done it, so any time anything SB related at all comes up their names get tossed in the running despite both of them probably turning it down every year for a decade 

[1989]

3 hours ago, pccp said:

Why do people think Taylor will perform at SB right now ?????.

Does anyone actually think that? I thought we were just doing SB setlists again cause we’re bored. 

[Taylor fanboy]

6 hours ago, beagle said:

Gorgeous is laying it on a little thick, but anyway, it is because Taylor is sadly a flop now and must have been dropped by Republic :(

 

Actually, as I'm a corporate, but not an IP lawyer, I may be wrong, but my semi-educated guess is that the simplest explanation is true: Taylor has not granted Republic/UMG an exclusive license to her music. In general, labels insist on artists signing perpetual grants - ie transferring the right to collect the negotiated proportion of royalties for the duration of the artists lifetime + 70 years. This is the case for the first 6 albums that are currently held by Apollo. If the artist insists on retaining ownership of their masters, in most cases the label would expect at least an exclusive license deal, in which they are able to collect their share for a fixed time period, after which all rights revert back to the artist. Crucially, the exclusive license generally grants control over the recording, which is enforceable even against the artist. As an example, an artist who has given their label an exclusive license would not be able to remove their songs from Spotify because they disagree with Joe Rogan. In Taylor's case, I'd guess that she has decided that Republic may have some share of the revenue, but no control. I'd assume that less middlemen also mean more money for Taylor.

 

Incidentally, Taylor is domiciled in Tennessee for tax purposes, right?

 

 

ugh thank you king!

 

 

 

[pccp]

What are your top 3 best songs about Reputation? mine is :

1. Dancing With Our Hand Tied

2. Don't Blame Me

3. Dress

those are songs that start with the letter "D" 

[1989]

Rep Top 3: 

 

1. Delicate 

2. So It Goes

3. Call It What You Want 

[PoisonedIvy]

3 minutes ago, 1989 said:

Rep Top 3: 

 

1. Delicate 

2. So It Goes

3. Call It What You Want 

This is probably mine, but DWOHT sometimes replaces So It Goes. I wish DWOHT had a better chorus because those verses are GOLDEN. Also, CIWYW is #1 while Delicate is #3/4 sometimes 

Edited May 5, 2022 by WeFoundTrouble

[1989]

Are we on Track 12 now? Anyway:

 

Track 12:

 

Sad Beautiful Tragic > long story short > mad woman > I Know Places > Haunted > Dress > Soon You’ll Get Better > The Best Day > I’m Only Me When I’m With You 

[Achilles.]

Sad Beautiful Tragic > Dress > long story short > The Best Day > mad woman > I Know Places > Haunted > Soon You’ll Get Better > I’m Only Me When I’m With You

[Taylor fanboy]

1 hour ago, pccp said:

What are your top 3 best songs about Reputation? mine is :

1. Dancing With Our Hand Tied

2. Don't Blame Me

3. Dress

those are songs that start with the letter "D" 

Top 3 is difficult, even top 5! All 15 songs are so Swiftian greatness!

 

The fact that they all tell the story and narrative from start to end too through the track list. ugh her best album!

 

Thee PUTA’s top 3 for today:

 

So It Goes…

New Year’s Day

King Of My Heart

[Taylor fanboy]

@Cloröx you better thread Nice Things hitting 100M  for OTHs  and puta’s second fanbase to swarm in they’re seething.

 

[Taylor fanboy]

Not bad for a frontloaded decline of a snake!

[Taylor fanboy]

Clowning for 1989 TV never ended

[Michael196]

59 minutes ago, Taylor fanboy said:

Clowning for 1989 TV never ended

It’s obviously Cruel Summer...

[Michael196]

puta’s top 3 are:

Dress

King Of My Heart

Call It What You Want

[P!NK2LOVE]

UMMM???

[taylordswift13]

5 minutes ago, P!NK2LOVE said:

UMMM???

Are we clowning again 

[P!NK2LOVE]

4 minutes ago, taylordswift13 said:

Are we clowning again 

5 emojis 

tomorrow is 5/5

fifth studio album 1989

5/13

 

too good to be true 

she is dumb 

[JorgeM]

I feel it could be an unreleased tv version because when Taylor’s songs are usually sync in shows TN or Taylor usually don’t say anything, like Exile in You, Ivy on Dickinson or This is me trying on Gossip Girl, for mention some songs used recently 

[enchanted0]

Sparks Fly TV is coming  I just KNOW!

[lenchen.]

23 minutes ago, P!NK2LOVE said:

UMMM???

Let me clown again