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[TaylorNation]

10 hours ago, PopA911 said:

you’re one of the most eloquent members of this base 

 

I think we ALL do 

 

nnnnn

 

 

I thought I was the only one, glad I spoke up  

[Peroxide]

The way I legitimately don’t know who anybody is referring to…

 

Am I the drama?

[LiamVillain]

you did a good job CS

[Klein]

4 minutes ago, LiamVillain said:

you did a good job CS

You mean a fantastic job. And it will probably still remain one of her most streamed song daily until the end of the tour. 

[TaylorNation]

I will NEVER understand why they never pushed a CS tour video 

[Holy Ground]

TS11 coming for a 2m debut if she does this 

 

 

[mael]

Still can't believe we have a version of SOTB with Lana actually singing the main vocals on verse and chorus. She really elevated that monotonous second verse

 

 

 

[SpeakNowTv]

i'm posting this on here cause on the guts thread there's too many immature people (nothing related to olivia specificially)

i hate that this drama is bothering me but for some reason i'm still surprised at how much people on the internet force their narratives and convince themselves that it's real just cause they feed off of petty drama. always putting women against each other, if you were to ask me olivia simply had an identity crisis and was scared to be compared too much to taylor that people wouldn't see her as her own person and that's why she kept a bit of distance, everything else is people being delusional, you're crazy to think that taylor at the age of 33 is having beef with a 20 year old, especially now that she is on top of the world. literally i keep seeing people taking the smallest things about olivia's new album and claiming it's undeniable proof of a major beef that they themselves made up. i hope this doesnt have long lasting consequences on taylor cause we know how some ppl will jump of the first chance they have to go against her  

[Klein]

17 minutes ago, SpeakNowTv said:

i'm posting this on here cause on the guts thread there's too many immature people (nothing related to olivia specificially)

i hate that this drama is bothering me but for some reason i'm still surprised at how much people on the internet force their narratives and convince themselves that it's real just cause they feed off of petty drama. always putting women against each other, if you were to ask me olivia simply had an identity crisis and was scared to be compared too much to taylor that people wouldn't see her as her own person and that's why she kept a bit of distance, everything else is people being delusional, you're crazy to think that taylor at the age of 33 is having beef with a 20 year old, especially now that she is on top of the world. literally i keep seeing people taking the smallest things about olivia's new album and claiming it's undeniable proof of a major beef that they themselves made up. i hope this doesnt have long lasting consequences on taylor cause we know how some ppl will jump of the first chance they have to go against her  

Taylor will be perfectly fine unless a real thing happened bts that is actually damning unlike the songwriting credits situation. 

 

I'd say Olivia is the only one that is suffering from this supposed feud. She just released an album and everyone (including critics) are bringing up Taylor. This has two effect on her. 1) A lot of her audience/fanbase are Swifties, and if Taylor starts taking too much heat, they'll be gone and 2) if this continue she will forever stay in Taylor's shadow, which is definitely not ideal when you try making a name for yourself. 

 

I think Olivia and her team realized she needed to distance herself from Taylor if she wanted to get her own identity. I also think it's likely that Taylor did not like that everyone was talking about Olivia as "the new Taylor". That's like saying "here's your replacement". So I'm sure she also stopped acknowledging Olivia publicly to avoid these comparisons to persist too much. 

 

In the end, I don't think there's real bad blood between the two.

[Cruel Summer]

I said something to this effect yesterday, but I feel like our society is more interested in using famous women’s emotions as a product than in actually listening to anything they’re saying. We manufacture and commodify conflict between them for our entertainment and consumption. Sometimes, spaces ATRL and Twitter represent the worst of this; no matter what the truth is, some people just want there to be conflict, and others specifically just want Taylor to be the villain. If anything happened between them it’s not going to be half as straightforward as people expect, and if nothing did then all the speculation is for nothing. That these are still people, even if they’re essentially playing a character to some extent with their public celebrity persona, is largely lost in this feud discourse as people mindlessly pursue the goal of establishing the conflict and designating the hero and villain roles. In the real world I think this will largely pass without consequence, but it’s going to be a long week in fandom spaces.

 

I’ve been trying to see it with a measured, balanced perspective, personally - that I don’t really think there’s “beef” and that evidence for conflict is lacking, but if something did happen and Olivia feels hurt, that it doesn’t need to mean that Taylor is a vindictive witch or that Olivia is wrong and immature for feeling complex feelings, either. But it can be challenging to be trying to engage in a community because you like pop culture and music and then see these takedowns of your favorite artist every other page over something that may or may not have ever happened and that certainly didn’t happen in the way people imagine. This last few weeks have taught me a lot about people - I’ve seen “hag” and “pushing 40” (as if that’s even bad?) and “at her big age” more times than I can count, and more than enough times for one lifetime. It’s gross, it’s weird, and to top it off it infantilizes the other party in the situation as collateral damage.

 

Personally, I’ll be very happy when 1989 TV rolls around next month and this situation is behind us, hopefully for the last time.

[Enrique523]

20 hours ago, Steve Johnson said:

Idk man but I really like to see things from objective point of view. I really hate feels n vibes stuff. 

Same for me and unfortunately, Taylor hatred on this site is entirely based on that 

[Enrique523]

18 hours ago, wastedpotential said:

 

 

 

The way I think we all know who this is 

 

  Reveal hidden contents

unless it's me, but I think I spam in base too much to qualify as not being active here 

 

Are you guys all talking about me? I'm really sorry if i ever annoyed anyone, it's not my intention 

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Cruel Summer said:

I said something to this effect yesterday, but I feel like our society is more interested in using famous women’s emotions as a product than in actually listening to anything they’re saying. We manufacture and commodify conflict between them for our entertainment and consumption. Sometimes, spaces ATRL and Twitter represent the worst of this; no matter what the truth is, some people just want there to be conflict, and others specifically just want Taylor to be the villain. If anything happened between them it’s not going to be half as straightforward as people expect, and if nothing did then all the speculation is for nothing. That these are still people, even if they’re essentially playing a character to some extent with their public celebrity persona, is largely lost in this feud discourse as people mindlessly pursue the goal of establishing the conflict and designating the hero and villain roles. In the real world I think this will largely pass without consequence, but it’s going to be a long week in fandom spaces.

 

I’ve been trying to see it with a measured, balanced perspective, personally - that I don’t really think there’s “beef” and that evidence for conflict is lacking, but if something did happen and Olivia feels hurt, that it doesn’t need to mean that Taylor is a vindictive witch or that Olivia is wrong and immature for feeling complex feelings, either. But it can be challenging to be trying to engage in a community because you like pop culture and music and then see these takedowns of your favorite artist every other page over something that may or may not have ever happened and that certainly didn’t happen in the way people imagine. This last few weeks have taught me a lot about people - I’ve seen “hag” and “pushing 40” (as if that’s even bad?) and “at her big age” more times than I can count, and more than enough times for one lifetime. It’s gross, it’s weird, and to top it off it infantilizes the other party in the situation as collateral damage.

 

Personally, I’ll be very happy when 1989 TV rolls around next month and this situation is behind us, hopefully for the last time.

Amazing post, couldn't said it better 

 

The way people are DESPERATE to create this narrative is becoming creepy at this point, especially when they will tell you that Taylor is the villain in the story no matter what. It's just blind bias and yeah, the mention of her age is the most ****** up thing about it, considering she's only 33 

 

Those same people are also constantly infantilizing Olivia, telling us again and again that she's a "young teenager" while unironically telling us that Taylor has been an evil mastermind since she was 16. The double standards couldn't be more obvious.

[EmailMySwift]

Why are there so many threads pitting Taylor against Olivia? It's going to be unbearable in here. 

 

If Eras movie "underperforms" even by one cent, they'll be at her throat. It doesn't matter if it breaks every record, if it doesn't match the loftiest predictions they'll be coming for her. 

[Klein]

2 minutes ago, EmailMySwift said:

Why are there so many threads pitting Taylor against Olivia? It's going to be unbearable in here. 

 

If Eras movie "underperforms" even by one cent, they'll be at her throat. It doesn't matter if it breaks every record, if it doesn't match the loftiest predictions they'll be coming for her. 

The movie already broke every single expectation. That's why everyone is at her throat right now. 

[FolkLover1989]

 

 

Guys vote for Karma on MTV IG

[Klein]

4 minutes ago, FolkLover1989 said:

 

 

Guys vote for Karma on MTV IG

This is real? This looks like a joke. 

 

And why is Karma nominated for Song Of The Summer instead of Cruel Summer? 

[MingYouToo]

1 hour ago, SpeakNowTv said:

i'm posting this on here cause on the guts thread there's too many immature people (nothing related to olivia specificially)

i hate that this drama is bothering me but for some reason i'm still surprised at how much people on the internet force their narratives and convince themselves that it's real just cause they feed off of petty drama. always putting women against each other, if you were to ask me olivia simply had an identity crisis and was scared to be compared too much to taylor that people wouldn't see her as her own person and that's why she kept a bit of distance, everything else is people being delusional, you're crazy to think that taylor at the age of 33 is having beef with a 20 year old, especially now that she is on top of the world. literally i keep seeing people taking the smallest things about olivia's new album and claiming it's undeniable proof of a major beef that they themselves made up. i hope this doesnt have long lasting consequences on taylor cause we know how some ppl will jump of the first chance they have to go against her  

this. if olivia was offended that's valid. if taylor wanted credit for the hit that's valid too. two things can co exist and that doesnt have to mean its beef between them.

 

even if there wasn't beef im willing to bet olivia wouldve gone radio silent re: taylor swift right during that time period bc it makes sense, she was no longer an up and coming artist or an indie/alt girl, she debuted and was immediately thrust into the uber mainstream, she was competing on the charts with her idols right from the getgo it made sense she was eventually going to distance herself.

 

guts was great, and 1989 tv will be amazing too! 

 

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the box office numbers for the eras movie look GREAT, spiderman you are BONES!

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, EmailMySwift said:

Why are there so many threads pitting Taylor against Olivia? It's going to be unbearable in here. 

 

If Eras movie "underperforms" even by one cent, they'll be at her throat. It doesn't matter if it breaks every record, if it doesn't match the loftiest predictions they'll be coming for her. 

Taylor being that successful is exactly why they're at her throat, they can't stand her success.

 

I think another thing motivating those Taylor vs Olivia threads is the fact that, back in 2021 when Olivia exploded with SOUR and Taylor didn't have Midnights yet, they convinced themselves that Olivia has surpassed Taylor and was gonna destroy her commercially from now on. We're now 2 years later and Taylor is more commercially successful than ever and Olivia, while still successful, isnt on SOUR-level anymore and so they cannot say she surpassed her anymore, making them even angrier.

 

So now we have all those threads about how Taylor is a vicious bully to poor sweet Olivia and how Olivia is so much more talented than Taylor just to cope. This site has become an endless coping mechanism for OTHs and it's so tiring to see 

Edited September 8, 2023 by Enrique523

[LiamVillain]

 

1 hour ago, Klein said:

This is real? This looks like a joke. 

 

And why is Karma nominated for Song Of The Summer instead of Cruel Summer? 

it has mv

[Arrows]

All I know is Taylor would never do anything intentionally that could ignite a “feud” with Olivia, she’s too smart for that. Taylor sent Olivia a personal letter and her own ring… She would not suddenly be jealous and unkind to her a few months later.

 

Taylor also doesn’t have any history of demanding credit on songs after their release, and I really don’t buy that she would personally seek to do that to Olivia, of all people.

[Enrique523]

1 hour ago, Arrows said:

All I know is Taylor would never do anything intentionally that could ignite a “feud” with Olivia, she’s too smart for that. Taylor sent Olivia a personal letter and her own ring… She would not suddenly be jealous and unkind to her a few months later.

 

Taylor also doesn’t have any history of demanding credit on songs after their release, and I really don’t buy that she would personally seek to do that to Olivia, of all people.

Taylor is someone who has done everything in her power to avoid bad press, she literally didn't date for years because of all the ****-shaming. Why would she be a bully to a younger new artist out of nowhere, especially considering the bad press she would get if it ever came out? The whole "feud" theory doesn't make sense. Taylor is way too smart to lower herself to something like this.

[Timeless]

I'm gonna be a clown but isn't it suspicious that taylor never posted about the pink vinyl on her socials....and taylor nation is tweeting about the countdown a lot today..................do we think something major is happening

[Klein]

1 minute ago, Timeless said:

I'm gonna be a clown but isn't it suspicious that taylor never posted about the pink vinyl on her socials....and taylor nation is tweeting about the countdown a lot today..................do we think something major is happening

If something really major was coming, it would have come at midnight. At most we're getting a cute new variant or the tracklist. 

[Michael196]

that girl with the tiktok payola saving her for a third era in a row, blocking CS in 3 countries from #1 

 

#2 (+1) UK *new peak

#2 (=) Australia

#3 (-1) Canada *peak #2

 

it becomes the highest peaking single off Lover in the UK...

 

Lover singles:

ME!/YNTCD/CS/Lover/TM

UK: 3/5/2/14/21

Aus: 2/3/2/3/17

Can: 2/4/2/7/21

US: 2/2/3/10/23

 

 

Edited September 8, 2023 by Michael196