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[cat1867]

9 minutes ago, EndofASadMovie said:

Taylor is doing fine with her current fame. It's the same thing she has been dealing with her entire life but with just a bigger crowd. She has been going to private parties, playing Uno and living her life just fine. She also partied with her friends in 4th of July & nobody knew until people posted pics. She also had a party in electric studio and we didn't know about it. 

Taylor has been going out in public more than before and you are only seeing her because she wants to be SEEN. 

In Miss Americana, she explicitly talked about how stressed out stuff like this made her and she was getting significantly smaller crowds back then. She spent 60 million dollars to build a garage in nyc to try to reduce the amount of swifties harassing her at her property.

 

I don't think Taylor wants to be less famous but right now swifties are harassing her much more than they did in past eras.

 

She used to be able to go to private clubs without stress but she cancelled her membership in one of the clubs because patrons took photos of her even through photography was explicitly prohibited. 

 

Also people know about the Electric Lady's party when it was happening. They had caught her going into the studio since there were already weirdos camped  24/7 trying to catch photos of her.

 

She can have privacy in Rhode island house since her property is fenced in.

 

Basically, this stuff is clearly miserable for her. Yes, she can tolerate it and it hasn't reached the stage yet she is even willingly ditch nyc for another city where its easier for her to hide.

 

Edited August 19, 2023 by cat1867

[Steve Johnson]

She should move to Switzerland or something. 

[Fama]

NYC is the most dangerous city for her because it's crowded and only public parking is available most of the time. She doesnt have this problem in Nashville or LA. Her garage is a huge improvement for her security. Imagine if she still had to walk from her house to her car everyday.  The problem has moved to the places where she goes. I think these crowds are a nightmare for her security team, because a gunman can easily hide in the crowds. It's even worse when people expect her to be somewhere, because it gives them time to plan ahead. That's why daily trips to the Electric Lady Studios are probably more dangerous than this visit to a restaurant. Anyway, I hope everything will go well with the wedding tomorrow. 

[EndofASadMovie]

7 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

In Miss Americana, she explicitly talked about how stressed out stuff like this made her and she was getting significantly smaller crowds back then. She spent 60 million dollars to build a garage in nyc to try to reduce the amount of swifties harassing her at her property.

 

I don't think Taylor wants to be less famous but right now swifties are harassing her much more than they did in past eras.

 

She used to be able to go to private clubs without stress but she cancelled her membership in one of the clubs because patrons took photos of her even through photography was explicitly prohibited. 

 

Also people know about the Electric Lady's party when it was happening. They had caught her going into the studio since there were already weirdos camped  24/7 trying to catch photos of her.

 

She can have privacy in Rhode island house since her property is fenced in.

 

Basically, this stuff is clearly miserable for her. Yes, she can tolerate it and it hasn't reached the stage yet she is even willingly ditch nyc for another city where its easier for her to hide.

 

 

Well, you said she can't hangout like a normal person as a celebrity when she can have fun with her private life and party just fine. There are alternatives. These are just a few things that were made public so we know about it. She also knows how to take action like the patron situation when her privacy is invaded. She isn't miserable like y'all are saying. 

 

Btw, people didn't know she had a party in that pic until it was posted. Do the research. 

 

If anything, she was ready for the pap pics when she went to the studio for the first time this era.  She let it happened.

 

 

 

The same thing happened in this part of the documentary. She had like multiple professional candids that week Infront of her apartment out of nowhere during the drought in public appearance in 2018. And that was because they wanted to use the footage for miss americana to show what is it like to be a celebrity going outside your apartment. And this only happpened because she planned it and wanted to be SEEN like the way she does now going into the studio. 

 

 

Again, the topic is about what happened last night and it was because she stepped into a neighborhood with other celebrities without hiding. We wouldn't know about it if she hide from us. Not saying these people gathering aren't WEIRD but there's a difference between her willingly let us see her and when she doesn't.

[JorgeM]

6 hours ago, fridayteenage said:

i think she strives for immense $ rather than fame for fame's sake

Not at all. All that Taylor cares nowadays is building a huge legacy, not the money itself 

[JorgeM]

What is clear is that using regular flights would be incredible dangerous for her and for other and would cause tons of problems in airports, let’s her use her jet peacefully 

[EndofASadMovie]

Anyways, I knew this was going to happen the moment we started getting candids after the break up. Going back into the public frenzy 1989 persona was never a good idea. The fans were celebrating her going out again like 1989 era but I wished she kept herself low-key like she did for the past few years. 

[cat1867]

Just now, EndofASadMovie said:

 

Well, you said she can't hangout like a normal person as a celebrity when she can have fun with her private life and party just fine. There are alternatives. These are just a few things that were made public so we know about it. She also knows how to take action like the patron situation when her privacy is invaded. She isn't miserable like y'all are saying. 

 

Btw, people didn't know she had a party in that pic until it was posted. Do the research. 

 

If anything, she was ready for the pap pics when she went to the studio for the first time this era.  She let it happened.

 

 

 

The same thing happened in this part of the documentary. She had like multiple professional candids that week Infront of her apartment out of nowhere during the drought in public appearance in 2018. And that was because they wanted to use the footage for miss americana to show what is it like to be a celebrity going outside your apartment. And this only happpened because she planned it and wanted to be SEEN like the way she does now going into the studio. 

 

 

Again, the topic is about what happened last night and it was because she stepped into a neighborhood with other celebrities without hiding. We wouldn't know about it if she hide from us. Not saying these people gathering aren't WEIRD but there's a difference between her willingly let us see her and when she doesn't.

People didn't know it was a party but people knew that she had entered Electric Lady.

 

For the given picture, she didn't have a garage back then so in order to leave her apartment she had to walk through the crowd. She was on tour during that time so people knew she would be in nyc and so camped out. She knew that tons of fans and pap were going to be camped then and so dressed according. In her documentary,  for that photo, she talked about how those photos contributed to her eating disorder. So no, she didn't enjoy that experience at all.

 

But seriously, do you think Taylor want to ruin Jack's rehearsal dinner and have hundred of fans show up in long beach?

[Bonicap]

5 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

do you think Taylor want to ruin Jack's rehearsal dinner and have hundred of fans show up in long beach?

By the way Taylor reacts when she steps outside I don't think anyone inside realized or cared about the crowd.

Edited August 19, 2023 by Bonicap

[Fama]

10 minutes ago, EndofASadMovie said:

Again, the topic is about what happened last night and it was because she stepped into a neighborhood with other celebrities without hiding. We wouldn't know about it if she hide from us. Not saying these people gathering aren't WEIRD but there's a difference between her willingly let us see her and when she doesn't.

It's pretty useless to hide in this case because it's Jack's pre-wedding party and everyone expects her to attend. This one is on Jack. When he chose the restaurant he either didn't think of the security or he didn't care, because he knows all about the crowds.

[EndofASadMovie]

40 minutes ago, cat1867 said:

People didn't know it was a party but people knew that she had entered Electric Lady.

 

For the given picture, she didn't have a garage back then so in order to leave her apartment she had to walk through the crowd. She was on tour during that time so people knew she would be in nyc and so camped out. She knew that tons of fans and pap were going to be camped then and so dressed according. In her documentary,  for that photo, she talked about how those photos contributed to her eating disorder. So no, she didn't enjoy that experience at all.

 

But seriously, do you think Taylor want to ruin Jack's rehearsal dinner and have hundred of fans show up in long beach?

People didn't know she was there at the studio AT ALL. do more research.

 

That week candids ( for 5 different days) were planned accordingly for the doc. She was in a hiding phase nobody (and  I mean NOBODY)  expected her to served us with looks at the time.  Why are you bringing up her ED. It has nothing to do with what I said. Also, she was recreating how she felt stepping outside during the 1989 era and seeing those 1989 candid pics. In the car, she said she felt horrible seeing herself back then but now she does not give a **** anymore. That was a very important scene and that wasn't about her fans.

Edited August 19, 2023 by EndofASadMovie

[EndofASadMovie]

14 minutes ago, Fama said:

It's pretty useless to hide in this case because it's Jack's pre-wedding party and everyone expects her to attend. This one is on Jack. When he chose the restaurant he either didn't think of the security or he didn't care, because he knows all about the crowds.

I think they all expected it and didn't care. 

[fridayteenage]

4 hours ago, EndofASadMovie said:

Anyways, I knew this was going to happen the moment we started getting candids after the break up. Going back into the public frenzy 1989 persona was never a good idea. The fans were celebrating her going out again like 1989 era but I wished she kept herself low-key like she did for the past few years. 

[cruelcooper]

So I was streaming reputation’s iconic #1 smash hit (which is tough to get not everyone has that!) and I realized how much Jack is probably gonna snap on the TV 

[Taylor fanboy]

So I was streaming reputation the multi-week iconic #1 smash album (which is tough to get not everyone has that!) and I realized how much it is probably gonna snap on the TV.

[EarthJang]

 

 

[cruelcooper]

When DWOHT TV goes viral and SKYROCKETS to #1 then what

[By the Water]

Taylor didn't seem all that bothered yesterday tbh. It's true that she can not be seen when she wants to or at the very least she communicates that by running to her car or covering herself with an umbrella

[Tusk]

49 minutes ago, By the Water said:

Taylor didn't seem all that bothered yesterday tbh. It's true that she can not be seen when she wants to or at the very least she communicates that by running to her car or covering herself with an umbrella

Wasn’t it just the rehearsal dinner?

 

If the wedding is actually today, I am

sure she will be more incognito 

[Spark]

I keep on seeing people using Miss Americana as touchstone for Taylor's inner thoughts, but I don't think that documentary is accurate of anything today. I mean the documentary is kinda terrible (Taylor would never allow the level of access a true amazing doc needs), but I don't think her hating fame is a main takeaway from it. 

 

At that point of her life she was in a relationship to a man who (likely) made her keep more private, thought that she only had one more big album left in her (), and thought that Lover was going to be the album that got her an Album of the Year nomination at the Grammys. The girl should have been put in the looney bin.

 

If she was scared of anything during that time, she was scared of getting older and losing her fame, which is why I feel like is probably the reason why she's being so extra at the moment.

[Klein]

28 minutes ago, Spark said:

If she was scared of anything during that time, she was scared of getting older and losing her fame, which is why I feel like is probably the reason why she's being so extra at the moment.

I think exactly the same. To me she is currently milking her fame for all its worth because she thought she would never get to that level ever again. It's clear she's loving it, and I also think it comes from a much healthier place now than during the Lover era. 

 

I hope it stays as healthy as it seems and that she handles the inevitable downward trajectory without struggling. But I think once this peak will pass, there's not much else she'll have to prove commercially. She'll likely be close or maybe even above Madonna's career totals so... I don't think she'll feel like she has anything else to prove on that front. 

 

A bit off topic regarding this conversation but with all the success, I think it's pretty likely that TS11 will be another pop album. However, I wish she would try to capitalize on this insane popularity to venture into a new sonic palette. 

Edited August 19, 2023 by Klein

[Klein]

20 hours ago, Klein said:

I just watched Red White & Royal Blue after seeing sooooooooo many edits of the movie using Taylor's songs. Why on EARTH are people using London Boy or Miss Americana for this when I Can See You is just soooooo obviously the best song to describe most of their dynamic in the movie? 

 

I've been watchin' you for ages
And I spend my time tryin' not to feel it

 

But what would you do if I went to touch you now?
What would you do if they never found us out?
What would you do if we never made a sound?

 

'Cause I can see you waitin' down the hall from me
And I could see you up against the wall with me

 

And we kept everything professional
But something's changed, it's somethin' I, I like
They keep watchful eyes on us
So it's best that we move fast and keep quiet
You won't believe half the things I see inside my head
Wait 'til you see half the things that haven't happened yet

 

I could see you in your suit and your necktie
Passed me a note saying, "Meet me tonight"
Then we kiss, and you know I won't ever tell, yeah

 

Like I mean... Am I the only one who sees it? 

Not me finding an edit with I Can See You today. My influence knows no bounds. 

[Squall]

Flanders:

 

 

Wallonia:

 

 

The way she dominates Europe

 

In Flanders, it's 1989's highest position since its debut in 2014  

[SimpleKindofLife]

Literally why do some people think she’s gay? Is it delusion?

[Vespertine]

Not LBI Cannot believe I got LASIK yesterday, and when my vision finally cleared back up, I had multiple missed texts about Taylor stomping around my home territory. 

 

Any other Jersey Shore girlies here?