réveuse Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 50 minutes ago, By the Water said: This is crazy This is disgusting.
LiamVillain Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Taylor: "Stream Cruel Summer and I'll let you see me" and the crowd leaves
PoisonedIvy Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: ……………………… That’s unsettling.
réveuse Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) I am actually scared for her. If these rats don't stop, some tragic s*** may happen to her. Edited August 19, 2023 by réveuse
Toxicity. Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Please Taylor lives for the fame. She loves how massive she is. She could’ve easily kept it Lowkey as we know she has before. 3 1
Saintlor Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) I don't think her striving for this immense fame is worth it She will always have an absolutely massive loyal following But she's always had problems with stalkers and this will likely now be magnified. She could seriously end up getting killed It doesn't matter how much security she has, all it takes is for someone to see on social media that she entered that music studio in NY and wait outside all day with a gun. Look at when word got out on Twitter that she was at the music studio and then crowds waited for her to come out and got to see her get in her car. It would be insanely easy for a psycho to pull it off. Edited August 19, 2023 by Saintlor 1
fridayteenage Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 i think she strives for immense $ rather than fame for fame's sake 1
Saintlor Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Just now, fridayteenage said: i think she strives for immense $ rather than fame for fame's sake Still, whichever reason I don't think its worth it. I do think there is a very serious chance of something bad happening
Steve Johnson Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saintlor said: She could seriously end up getting killed It doesn't matter how much security she has, all it takes is for someone to see on social media that she entered that music studio in NY and wait outside all day with a gun. Look at when word got out on Twitter that she was at the music studio and then crowds waited for her to come out and got to see her get in her car. It would be insanely easy for a psycho to pull it off. The thought of this
RobynYoBank Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 I understand the sentiment, but let's be real. Taylor LOVES fame. Her ambition has always been to be the biggest star in the world, and she's charted a relentless ascent to just that.
chiliam Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 31 minutes ago, Saintlor said: I don't think her striving for this immense fame is worth it She will always have an absolutely massive loyal following But she's always had problems with stalkers and this will likely now be magnified. She could seriously end up getting killed It doesn't matter how much security she has, all it takes is for someone to see on social media that she entered that music studio in NY and wait outside all day with a gun. Look at when word got out on Twitter that she was at the music studio and then crowds waited for her to come out and got to see her get in her car. It would be insanely easy for a psycho to pull it off. Girl, you are giving me an anxiety attack. Just thinking about this made my eyes watery. Taylor loves fame and she wants to be in the history book for sure. But clearly this invasion of privacy is too much for anyone, the fans really needs to admire from distance. 3
cat1867 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 18 minutes ago, RobynYoBank said: I understand the sentiment, but let's be real. Taylor LOVES fame. Her ambition has always been to be the biggest star in the world, and she's charted a relentless ascent to just that. She clearly both loves and hates fame. She loves the fans chanting her name and singing her song at her concerts but is distressed by the swifties stalking her and performing crowds outside her friend's wedding. Taylor isn't going to try to sabotage her fame and become a niche artist. However, she might reduce the amount the time she is in public to try the number of stalkers. London was nice for Taylor as she had less hardcore stans and so was able to a more normal life. I won't be surprised if after the tour, she moves back to London or somewhere else in Europe full time to try to live a more normal life between releases.
byzantium Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 4 minutes ago, cat1867 said: However, she might reduce the amount the time she is in public to try the number of stalkers. London was nice for Taylor as she had less hardcore stans and so was able to a more normal life. I won't be surprised if after the tour, she moves back to London or somewhere else in Europe full time to try to live a more normal life between releases. Her Eurodance era is upon us. It’s a win win for everyone. 1
FolkLover1989 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Swiftie tower is gonna get hit soon when that info becomes public
FolkLover1989 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 1 hour ago, Saintlor said: I don't think her striving for this immense fame is worth it She will always have an absolutely massive loyal following But she's always had problems with stalkers and this will likely now be magnified. She could seriously end up getting killed It doesn't matter how much security she has, all it takes is for someone to see on social media that she entered that music studio in NY and wait outside all day with a gun. Look at when word got out on Twitter that she was at the music studio and then crowds waited for her to come out and got to see her get in her car. It would be insanely easy for a psycho to pull it off. I choked and cried reading this I don't think I can handle this , I am genuinely scared 2
Peak Now Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 "She likes the fame" yes for her music, if you've watched Miss Americana or listened to The Lakes or even Anti-Hero you know she doesn't like people shoving cameras in her face when she goes shopping or something 3
EndofASadMovie Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Toxicity. said: Please Taylor lives for the fame. She loves how massive she is. She could’ve easily kept it Lowkey as we know she has before. This. Taylor isn't as miserable as about all of this as y'all think she is. She knew exactly what she did when she appeared in a neighborhood without hiding with the current level of fame she is in after the eras tour. Anywhere she goes is gonna gather crowd whether it be fans or locals or people who are passing by. And it isn't just Taylor this is happening to Random people gathered outside the restaurant because someone said Jolie was there. This looks way more dangerous and I don't think these people are her hardcore fans. This is just how the public reacts to when there's a rare celebrity sighting and Taylor KNOWS what she's doing. Taylor enjoys the attention she gets and she also let it be clear when she doesn't enjoy something like chasing her car like a dumbass. There are clearly boundaries she set. This is NOT to excuse the fans behaviour but my point is that, she's been in this industry for decades, she knows exactly how to hide and avoid all of this from happening if she wants to but she seems to be the one encouraging this behaviour knowing the level of fame she's in. Edited August 19, 2023 by EndofASadMovie 2 3
Bonicap Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 When did this become Reddit with everybody wanting her to be miserable and sad? She knows how to hide and she has been dealing with huge crowds for more than 10 years. Something bad can happen to her as well as it can happen to any other celebrity, that's why she has top tier private security with her all the time. I swear some people here are more afraid than herself PS: We'll still have to hear criticism and jokes because she uses a private plane. 1
SpeakNowTv Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 10 hours ago, YellowRibbon said: Both Jack and Lana followed the hot guy that wanted to reach out to Taylor to give her a friendship bracelet with his cellphone number. Does this mean what I think it means? show me this hot guy u talk about
cat1867 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Bonicap said: When did this become Reddit with everybody wanting her to be miserable and sad? She knows how to hide and she has been dealing with huge crowds for more than 10 years. Something bad can happen to her as well as it can happen to any other celebrity, that's why she has top tier private security with her all the time. I swear some people here are more afraid than herself PS: We'll still have to hear criticism and jokes because she uses a private plane. No offense but do you really think Taylor is happy that hundreds of people formed a crowd outside Jack's rehearsal dinner ? Miss American, the lakes, I know places, anti-hero etc have discussed how stressful and unpleasant not being able to go to normal places without being harassed is for Taylor. In her elle profile she said that " There was a tremendous amount of planning, expense, and effort put into keeping my fans safe. My fear of violence has continued into my personal life. I carry QuikClot army grade bandage dressing, which is for gunshot or stab wounds." Unorganized crowds like the ones that gather outside the restaurant are absolutely a big stressor for Taylor. Yes, Taylor knows how to hide if she really wants too. But what that means in practice is that she can only go to places with garages and private entrances which most places in nyc don't have. It means that she can't hangout with friends like a normal person. It means that she can't go to her favorite music studio without having to put up with imbeciles who will sing atw while she is trying to work. She isn't going to trash her career over it but what is happening is distressing. Edited August 19, 2023 by cat1867
Bonicap Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 12 minutes ago, cat1867 said: No offense but do you really think Taylor is happy that hundreds of people formed a crowd outside Jack's rehearsal dinner ? Miss American, the lakes, I know places, anti-hero etc have discussed how stressful and unpleasant not being able to go to normal places without being harassed is for Taylor. In her elle profile she said that " There was a tremendous amount of planning, expense, and effort put into keeping my fans safe. My fear of violence has continued into my personal life. I carry QuikClot army grade bandage dressing, which is for gunshot or stab wounds." Unorganized crowds like the ones that gather outside the restaurant are absolutely a big stressor for Taylor. Yes, Taylor knows how to hide if she really wants too. But what that means in practice is that she can only go to places with garages and private entrances which most places in nyc don't have. It means that she can't hangout with friends like a normal person. It means that she can't go to her favorite music studio without having to put up with imbeciles who will sing atw while she is trying to work. She isn't going to trash her career over it but what is happening is distressing. What I think is that she is used to that already. You know there are several ways to go into studios without being recognized and she has wanted to be seen a few times this year. Obviously she is not asking for fans to be camping outside or for big crowds to be waiting for her, but she knows it can happen and still decides to be seen. Of course she can't hang out with friends in normal places and that sucks, but it has been like that for years and it won't change until no one cares about her anymore.
EndofASadMovie Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 Taylor is doing fine with her current fame. It's the same thing she has been dealing with her entire life but with just a bigger crowd. She has been going to private parties, playing Uno and living her life just fine. She also partied with her friends in 4th of July & nobody knew until people posted pics. She also had a party in electric studio and we didn't know about it. Taylor has been going out in public more than before and you are only seeing her because she wants to be SEEN. 1
cat1867 Posted August 19, 2023 Posted August 19, 2023 6 minutes ago, Bonicap said: What I think is that she is used to that already. You know there are several ways to go into studios without being recognized and she has wanted to be seen a few times this year. Obviously she is not asking for fans to be camping outside or for big crowds to be waiting for her, but she knows it can happen and still decides to be seen. Of course she can't hang out with friends in normal places and that sucks, but it has been like that for years and it won't change until no one cares about her anymore. I don't think a person can get used having to worry about a terrorism act every time they leave a building. Taylor clearly expects such terrible behavior for swifties but its not something one can get "used to". What we should be clear that most of the time its not that she is deciding to be seen but rather she is choosing to try to live her life without having to hide constantly (yes there were like two pap walks after the breakup but most of the candids are from situations where Taylor's rushing in and out of cars trying to get the f away from these creepy crowds). In nyc, she can only properly hid going into a building if that building has an garage and not that many nyc buildings do. Her friends are in nyc. The situation for Taylor has clearly gotten worse. She recorded basically all of her post 1989 albums at Electric Lady in nyc. But in the past, people wouldn't camp outside the studio and wouldn't immediately post about it. But now she has so much more fans that are dedicated to stalking and posting about her. There are people that stake out Electric Lady 24/7 to try to catch Taylor entering the building. If the studio doesn't have a garage, she can't get into it privately. Taylor doesn't have teleportation powers. If she wants to remain entirely unseen, she would have to basically live as a hermit in nyc.
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