1 hour ago, Leptine said:

However as I said other times, having an original song for this project is not a good idea at all, it's very risky.

 

Assuming the movie will become an award contender as long as with Gaga performance, voters can still choose to reward her again in song (thinking will be her second Oscar anyway) and give the acting one to somebody else that never won or something, watch an overdue actress being in contention that season.

There’s no way they won’t include at least one original song to push during awards season. It might not be the accessible/commercial type, but no studio would willingly have Gaga on their movie and not want an original song to push. 
 

At the end of the day an Oscar is an Oscar to those studios, they sadly won’t think “ooh, Gaga has had a BOS win before, let’s aim for the BA this time”. Including an original song is a guaranteed nom and very possible win, so they will definitely aim for that. 

9 minutes ago, Ego said:

There’s no way they won’t include at least one original song to push during awards season. It might not be the accessible/commercial type, but no studio would willingly have Gaga on their movie and not want an original song to push. 
 

At the end of the day an Oscar is an Oscar to those studios, they sadly won’t think “ooh, Gaga has had a BOS win before, let’s aim for the BA this time”. Including an original song is a guaranteed nom and very possible win, so they will definitely aim for that. 

Exactly. They’ll for sure ask for an original song. 

No way a studio like WB would say no to extra oscar nomination in an important category like original song.  

 

This isnt an indie movie, i’m still in my own element saying WB will for sure gonna ask for a radio single original song. Maybe a duet something like Shallow.

A song sung by two psychopathic terrorists? In Oscar contention? And fitting for a radio single? I-

10 minutes ago, DoctorIce said:

A song sung by two psychopathic terrorists? In Oscar contention? And fitting for a radio single? I-

Shallow didn’t exactly sound like a radio single either. I remember people complaining about the weird verse-verse-chorus structure and the crowd noises when it first came out. 
 

If the song makes sense in the context of the movie and its respective scene is great, it could blow up (if not on radio, at least online). 
 

But regardless of radio, they for sure will request an original song for the sole purpose of being an awards contender. 

Yeah I agree with everyone pretty much dddd

 

The songs for the movie aren’t being crafted with an eye on commercial success and will likely feature at least some covers, at the same time I’m sure there will be at least one original song that they can submit for further awards consideration — it’s probably what also helped to make Gaga top of the list over her Hollywood competitors for the role. She’s the only real deal double threat working able to craft and perform original songs while double shifting as acclaimed actress.

 

If she nails that double duty for the second time with two wildly different characters / tones I think she will be rewarded for that.

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5 minutes ago, Jessie said:

Yeah I agree with everyone pretty much everyone dddd

 

The songs for the movie aren’t being crafted with an eye on commercial success and will likely feature at least some covers, at the same time I’m sure there will be at least one original song that they can submit for further awards consideration — it’s probably what also helped to make Gaga top of the list over her Hollywood competitors for the role. She’s the only real deal double threat working able to craft and perform original songs while double shifting as acclaimed actress.

 

If she nails that double duty for the second time with two wildly different characters / tones I think she will be rewarded for that.

This is very important for this fanbase to understand because I just know there will be meltdowns over the song not succeeding commercially.   Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely? No way.

Awards wise, many songs nominated are not radio friendly. If there are original songs, that would be the focus (awards) over commercial success. 

when Crazy in Love (feat. Joaquin Phoenix) is produced by BloodPop

 

11 minutes ago, Almodusa said:

Awards wise, many songs nominated are not radio friendly. If there are original songs, that would be the focus (awards) over commercial success. 

For sure. Radio success has no bearing on BOS, but obviously being a hit can help with exposure.

10 minutes ago, Bang Up said:

This is very important for this fanbase to understand because I just know there will be meltdowns over the song not succeeding commercially.   Could it happen? Sure. Is it likely? No way.

Yeah, the mark of success will be how well the songs help to elevate the storytelling and tone established in the first movie that already had a very dreamlike quality to it — the music working in the context of the film is the priority, and if its success spills out onto chart metrics then that’s gravy.
 

Just like L4S peaking Top 10 for one week in key markets doesn’t really matter when it achieved everything it was supposed to by honouring Tony as a performer and recording artist. Leave the sales worry to the next pop studio album.

 

Anyway, all these set leaks have got me so excited again and we are still 18 months out  

 

 

The intensity of this scene 

 

Her face

 

That firm grip   

 

 

1 hour ago, Ego said:

There’s no way they won’t include at least one original song to push during awards season. It might not be the accessible/commercial type, but no studio would willingly have Gaga on their movie and not want an original song to push. 
 

At the end of the day an Oscar is an Oscar to those studios, they sadly won’t think “ooh, Gaga has had a BOS win before, let’s aim for the BA this time”. Including an original song is a guaranteed nom and very possible win, so they will definitely aim for that. 

There are definitely studios that would pull something like that though  It's just part of a campaign strategy

 

At the end of the day, Gaga playing Harley is the big selling point for the movie, she is actively pursuing BA over any other award, and it would be a bigger win than anything below-the-line. Gaga in BA will probably be WB's biggest individual push for that season. 

 

If there's original music for J:FaD, it's because they needed it for the story. No studio would care about needing a surefire BOS winner when there's obvious opportunities for something bigger with the same person. 

7 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said:

when Crazy in Love (feat. Joaquin Phoenix) is produced by BloodPop

 

Not going to lie that Crazy In Love headline did make me scream a little. ‘03 Bonnie and Clyde (Arkham Mix) is coming to gag audiences.

 

1 minute ago, EnigmaticAndroid said:

There are definitely studios that would pull something like that though  It's just part of a campaign strategy

 

At the end of the day, Gaga playing Harley is the big selling point for the movie, she is actively pursuing BA over any other award, and it would be a bigger win than anything below-the-line. Gaga in BA will probably be WB's biggest individual push for that season. 

 

If there's original music for J:FaD, it's because they needed it for the story. No studio would care about needing a surefire BOS winner when there's obvious opportunities for something bigger with the same person. 

I agree it wouldn’t be forced on Phillips to shoehorn in original songs for the sake of it, but there’s no doubt Warners would ideally  want to be able to submit in as many categories as possible considering the last film managed 11 nods and they will be hoping for similar.

11 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said:

 

 

The intensity of this scene 

 

Her face

 

That firm grip   

 

 

The way these pictures are serving major ***** acting energy. I can just imagine the way she hissed her line. Queen!

The protester lady is also serving tho 

 

When she wins Best Actress Oscar and Crazy in Love goes #1 and becomes bigger than beyonce’s Crazy in Love 

 

 

Just now, industry baby said:

When she wins Best Actress Oscar and Crazy in Love goes #1 and becomes bigger than beyonce’s Crazy in Love 

 

 

 

Just imagine all the unnecessary “why?” “Surprised?” comparison threads.

 

 

 

Just now, Jessie said:

Just imagine all the unnecessary “why?” “Surprised?” comparison threads.

 

 

 

Atrl and twitter will collapse and beyonce will lose only thing she has when Gaga’s Crazy in Love becomes even bigger than Shallow 

 

 

2 minutes ago, industry baby said:

Atrl and twitter will collapse and beyonce will lose only thing she has when Gaga’s Crazy in Love becomes even bigger than Shallow 

 

 

 

when in reality it peaks at number 54 and drops out of the BB100 after three weeks

 

2 minutes ago, sunbathinganimal said:

when in reality it peaks at number 54 and drops out of the BB100 after three weeks

 

I believe in karma and C word vs R word threads will have its second round when Crazy in Love drops 

 

 

Y'all are super convinced this will have original music, and I'm not so convinced. Todd is hellbent on ripping off Scorsese and he'll probably use New York New York as the backbone of the film as he did with Taxi Driver for the first one. The announcement teaser had Cheek To Cheek playing.

 

If I had to bet, I would say there aren't going to be more than 6-7 musical numbers here, as I doubt this will be a fully fleshed musical like Les Mis, and that it'll be covers. 

If Gaga will be nominated for the acting categories, do you think she will be nominated for Best Actress or Best Supporting Actress? Do we know if Harley will legit be a proper co lead or is she more of a supporting role to Joker for this film? In some ways, being nominated in Best Supporting might be easier for her to also win that acting Oscar so it could be a good thing actually. Thoughts? 

14 minutes ago, IBeMe said:

If Gaga will be nominated for the acting categories, do you think she will be nominated for Best Actress or Best Supporting Actress? Do we know if Harley will legit be a proper co lead or is she more of a supporting role to Joker for this film? In some ways, being nominated in Best Supporting might be easier for her to also win that acting Oscar so it could be a good thing actually. Thoughts? 

She is the lead.

It would look very bad if they tried to push her into the Supporting category because it would be seen as a desperate ploy to increase her chances of winning.

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The best actress race is always so messy,  I wish she decides to campaing for best supporting actress in the future, but I know that is very unlikely