fan base Lady Gaga

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

13 minutes ago, opbranden said:

100%! I didn't mean to downplay Gaga's role—what I said applies to Bruno as well. I think most of the GP, given the HUGE numbers the song is pulling, are just casually enjoying it because it's a good song they like. But they don't necessarily make a "strong connection" with the artists behind it. It's hard to explain what I mean sorry , but with Shallow, it was all about Gaga—everyone talked about her first, and then about the song. It was impossible to talk about Shallow without talking about Gaga. This time, it feels... different? Or maybe I am influenced by my own bubble. 

Oh no I totally get that. Proof of that is that DWAS is barely bleeding into Gaga's catalogue when it comes to streaming. The song is massive but I don't see it gaining her many fans. 

I recall Flowers helping Miley's catalogue massively back then - nothing of the sort happened here, which is very telling considering DWAS is even bigger. Maybe it happened a bit more to Bruno but I don't follow his streaming #s. Of course not everything has to be about something else and getting a smash as big as this is amazing in and of itself HOWEVER if Gaga's team really think this song is going to lead the GP to check out the album they have another one coming (I mean even Flowers wasn't able to give ESV much relevance past first day - although that's partially attributtable to the quality of the music imo).

They need another strong single that is more on brand for Gaga's solo music (even if it is a feature - like Rain On Me) to garner interest for the album. 

Edited Friday at 11:18 AM by SweetOreosOfHeaven

[Spicy Pisces]

Notorious

Mustang

Abracadabra

____________

Zombified

Disease

____________

Dance in the Shadow

Garden of Eden

Edited Friday at 11:15 AM by Spicy Pisces

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

4 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

My cousin just said 'disease sounds like a typical Gaga song' i think now we've had SL and disease both perform abysmal on cherts, it's time she approaches pop differently 

I mean yeah. The thing with her lead singles since ARTPOP is that they are very loud and abbrasive (which is not a bad thing) but it doesn't exactly function commercially. Maybe it's to get her hardcore fans on board - and this time it actually worked because the song is very praised - but if that's not the intention (which is also a plausible scenario - why wouldn't they want a hit to start off the era?) it's like they're just trying to recreate Bad Romance over and over again and to me that's just obviously a failling strategy. 

They need something catchy and easier to listen to, but with the Gaga brand still - Zombified sounds much more appropriate. Not a song with borderline metal vocals, sharp agressive beats and Gaga's shouts and moans used as percussion (as much as I and the fans lived for that). With that being said it's much better to flop with a great song aimed at the fanbase than an okay/nice song aimed at the masses which they end up rejecting anyways (looking at Stupid Love). 

[opbranden]

11 minutes ago, kwek_kwek said:

We need HACGa and popper gays are not ready for it. 

It's not about poppers—it's about wanting her to push the boundaries of pop and explore new directions for the genre. HAC music doesn't give her that opportunity. She's clearly capable of achieving success while releasing innovative and interesting music. 

 

 

9 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

Oh no I totally get that. Proof of that is that DWAS is barely bleeding into Gaga's catalogue when it comes to streaming. The song is massive but I don't see it gaining her many fans. 

I recall Flowers helping Miley's catalogue massively back then - nothing of the sort happened here, which is very telling considering DWAS is even bigger. Maybe it happened a bit more to Bruno but I don't follow his streaming #s. Of course not everything has to be about something else and getting a smash as big as this is amazing in and of itself HOWEVER if Gaga's team really thing this song is going to lead the GP to check out the album they have another one coming (I mean even Flowers wasn't able to give ESV much relevance past first day - although that's partially attributtable to the quality of the music imo).

They need another strong single that is more on brand for Gaga's solo music (even if it is a feature - like Rain On Me) to garner interest for the album. 

I completely agree, especially since DWAS skews toward an older audience and songs like Notorious Being and Abracadabra aren't exactly hits with the same age bracket, . She'll probably have something for them on the album too, but so far, she's only teased tracks that cater to her core fanbase. 

 

7 minutes ago, Spicy Pisces said:

Notorious

Mustang

Abracadabra

____________

Zombified

Disease

____________

Garden of Eden

Dancing In The Shadows serving 143, #OUT - #OUT 

 

and poor Garden Of Eden  it's so catchy 

Edited Friday at 11:21 AM by opbranden

[PMM]

6 minutes ago, Spicy Pisces said:

Notorious

Mustang

Abracadabra

____________

Zombified

Disease

____________

Dance in the Shadow

Garden of Eden

same 

[SweetOreosOfHeaven]

The more I listen to Zombified snippet the more it sounds like a certified hit, I really hope it's the next single. 

My current snippets ranking:

Notorious Being

Zombified

Abracadabra

-------------

Dancing In The Shadows

----Mariana Trench----

Girlfriend (for The Weeknd) 

[Spicy Pisces]

4 minutes ago, opbranden said:

Dancing In The Shadows serving 143, #OUT - #OUT 

 

and poor Garden Of Eden  it's so catchy 

Yeah I forgot about Dance in the Shadows 

 

I tend to stan her songs that are sung on a lower register or sing-talks with her staccato (Mustang), has her Fame vocals/tone (Abracadabra) or just sickening beats (Notorious)

[Rith]

25 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

My cousin just said 'disease sounds like a typical Gaga song' i think now we've had SL and disease both perform abysmal on cherts, it's time she approaches pop differently 

SL and disease are nothing alike and disease sounds like a typical gaga song in the best possible manner. we have to accept that GP is okay with 1 or 2 antagonistic gaga song but us fans want more and more of them. GP doesnt care about these songs because disease and songs like judas and PF occupy the same niche for them meanwhile our taste in gaga songs is much more nuanced 

 

disease was released too late into the halloween era to have any success, it was basically 1 week before the xmas season started, maybe one day it will be appreciated by the masses like bloody mary did

[Nico Robin]

8 hours ago, satnosaint said:

When Brooklyn Nights comes before DWAS on LG7 

Either that or this forgagatten smash

 

 

I honestly wouldnt be mad if she included some unreleased tracks, because hers are just too good

 

 

 

[Nico Robin]

Well at least Notorious Grammys is #1 on yalls lists… As it should! 

[Human Fly]

i love DANCE SEX ART POP part so much in Aura. 

She was in her element when she wrote that masterpiece.

[Human Fly]

i love DANCE SEX ART POP part so much in Aura. 

She was in her element when she wrote that masterpiece.

[Peroxide]

If I'm being totally honest - I'll be surprised if LG7 comes out in February... it's definitely coming this year, but SURELY her team will want a large pre-order window? At least 2 months.

 

Tate's album is coming out in February and her pre-order has been up for 3 weeks.

 

Gaga/Bobby might truly just not give AF about pre-sales... which is valid, they didn't care about Harlequin having abysmal first week chart positions...

 

But if that really was the case, why is Die With A Smile being tacked onto the record when it was originally meant to be a standalone single? I don't berate Gaga and co for doing that - I suggested that was the move they pulled the DAY I heard Disease because it was such a risky choice for a lead single.

 

It wouldn't shock me if Disease performing as poorly as it did and DWAS becoming a MAMMOTH hit has pushed her back into the studio to change up the album.

 

I just really hope we get it by June at the latest.

[Human Fly]

I remember people saying joanne was her best album 

[opbranden]

2 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

If I'm being totally honest - I'll be surprised if LG7 comes out in February... it's definitely coming this year, but SURELY her team will want a large pre-order window? At least 2 months.

Billie is with Interscope and had only a 40-day window, while Beyoncé had 45 days and Dua had 50.

 

She still has time to announce LG7 and the second single within the next two weeks.

 

Delaying the album would be a terrible move. The fandom has already been waiting for five years, and it's barely holding on—we needed this album yesterday.

 

 

[Miss Anthropocene]

6 minutes ago, Peroxide said:

If I'm being totally honest - I'll be surprised if LG7 comes out in February... it's definitely coming this year, but SURELY her team will want a large pre-order window? At least 2 months.

 

Tate's album is coming out in February and her pre-order has been up for 3 weeks.

 

Gaga/Bobby might truly just not give AF about pre-sales... which is valid, they didn't care about Harlequin having abysmal first week chart positions...

 

But if that really was the case, why is Die With A Smile being tacked onto the record when it was originally meant to be a standalone single? I don't berate Gaga and co for doing that - I suggested that was the move they pulled the DAY I heard Disease because it was such a risky choice for a lead single.

 

It wouldn't shock me if Disease performing as poorly as it did and DWAS becoming a MAMMOTH hit has pushed her back into the studio to change up the album.

 

I just really hope we get it by June at the latest.

It's coming in February 

[opbranden]

4 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

I remember people saying joanne was her best album 

What people? The ones locked in Arkham Asylum? 

[Mr. Stratus]

45 minutes ago, SweetOreosOfHeaven said:

I mean yeah. The thing with her lead singles since ARTPOP is that they are very loud and abbrasive (which is not a bad thing) but it doesn't exactly function commercially. Maybe it's to get her hardcore fans on board - and this time it actually worked because the song is very praised - but if that's not the intention (which is also a plausible scenario - why wouldn't they want a hit to start off the era?) it's like they're just trying to recreate Bad Romance over and over again and to me that's just obviously a failling strategy. 

They need something catchy and easier to listen to, but with the Gaga brand still - Zombified sounds much more appropriate. Not a song with borderline metal vocals, sharp agressive beats and Gaga's shouts and moans used as percussion (as much as I and the fans lived for that). With that being said it's much better to flop with a great song aimed at the fanbase than an okay/nice song aimed at the masses which they end up rejecting anyways (looking at Stupid Love). 

I think GP need a Gaga pop song where they are like 'wow who is this?' Something mature for her age but still pop.
Bey and Miley haven't succumbed to legacy artist status because they don't try to recreate We can't stop or crazy in love every era. We can see SL/Disease didn't hit the GP from the poor Shazam

[Nico Robin]

5 minutes ago, Human Fly said:

I remember people saying joanne was her best album 

The voices in your head dont count 

[Hair]

Dunno about you guys but I'll be pre-ordering the album the day it's announced, regardless if it has a 4 or 40 day window. 

[Human Fly]

3 minutes ago, opbranden said:

What people? The ones locked in Arkham Asylum? 

This base have some type of bad habit they overrate her recent releases and name them as her best yet 

[sunbathinganimal]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Stratus said:

Something mature for her age but still pop.

this is exactly what Disease is though?

[Mr.Stardust]

From GGD

Disease at #5 (-4) on This Is Lady Gaga playlist

This one is managed by her label / team

So this basically confirms that the 2nd single is coming.

[Peroxide]

3 minutes ago, opbranden said:

Billie is with Interscope and had only a 40-day window, while Beyoncé had 45 days and Dua had 50.

 

She still has time to announce LG7 and the second single within the next two weeks.

 

Delaying the album would be a terrible move. The fandom has already been waiting for five years, and it's barely holding on—we needed this album yesterday.

 

 

I suppose Billie followed a more "Taylor Swift" like rollout where everything was dropping on album release so it felt like there was more anticipation - maybe?

 

Fair enough about Bey and Dua but I would hope Gaga is planning on having more longevity on the charts than poor old Radical Optimism. I assumed significant lead time was required to allow for vinyl pressing too? I would be shocked if they didn't drop Day 1.

 

7 minutes ago, Miss Anthropocene said:

It's coming in February 

I hope so too but it won't shock me if it's later.

[Nico Robin]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Stardust said:

From GGD

Disease at #5 (-4) on This Is Lady Gaga playlist

This one is managed by her label / team

So this basically confirms that the 2nd single is coming.

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