Beautiful Garbage Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Emil Larsen said: Note that back in 2000, Asia only had 2 developed countries: Japan and South Korea (Xtina came to Korea in March 2000 and was treated like royalty). The rest of Asia was poor and didn't have a music industry so legal sales were non-existent in Philippined and Thailand for example. What truly measured Xtina's success in Asia during this period is that EVERYONE knew her and her songs. Yeah, probably the same goes for Latin America from what I've heard. It's crazy how often people go on talent shows all over Asia and sing her songs still. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Beautiful Garbage said: Yeah, I always felt like Mandy felt a little out of place near the other three. P!nk's debut was kind of just there for me? I just don't remember her prior Get This Party Started tbh. Well, and Lady Marmalade. Yeah. Mandy was never in the competition, she was always a flop in the USA but her movie A Night To Remember was popular in Asia/Philippines. P!nk's debut and Jessica's debut were just there: not flop but not truly successful like Xtina and Britney's debut. Jennifer Lopez was also big in 1999-2000, she rode the hype of the Latin invasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Beautiful Garbage said: Yeah, probably the same goes for Latin America from what I've heard. It's crazy how often people go on talent shows all over Asia and sing her songs still. Genie In A Bottle, Beautiful, Hurt are certified classics. Dirrty is a club staple. Candyman is also loved, it is her most viewed music video on Youtube. Keep Gettin' Better and the whole Bionic album are gay cult classics. She is a legend. It's just unfortunate that she doesn't have a hit during the digital era (she was sabotaged by Perez Hilton/the media's Lady Gaga comparisons) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Stripped and Missunderstood are bigger than Britney's self titled album. By late 2001, Britney became a tabloid starlet while the GP viewed Xtina as an artist (that Grammy's Best New Artist) win says it all. Dirrty peaked #48 because it was blacklisted by US radios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schnetzka Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 I would like if she at least indicated if she was working on a new album or not. Because I'm pretty sure she said after the Spanish album she would immediately go back into the studio to make an English one, but I haven't heard anything since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 It’s wild how she refuses to release music during the wait between eras. We had a whole global pandemic more enough time to release music in her home studio . She is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Bionic will forever be the most iconic cult album in stan culture: Monday Morning 10/10 Elastic Love 10 Title track 10 Vanity 11/10 Desnudate 10 Birds Of Prey 10 You Lost Me 10 My Girls 10 The rest are very good too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Power love said: It’s wild how she refuses to release music during the wait between eras. We had a whole global pandemic more enough time to release music in her home studio . She is ridiculous. She focuses on raising her son Max I think. Her son is 14 this year and he is going through puberty (lots of physical and mental changes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, Power love said: It’s wild how she refuses to release music during the wait between eras. We had a whole global pandemic more enough time to release music in her home studio . She is ridiculous. Yeah. Her long break between studio album affected her career. The gap between BTB and Bionic affected her the most. Rihanna, Katy, Gaga rose to fame and Britney and P!nk had comeback era with Circus and Funhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Power love said: It’s wild how she refuses to release music during the wait between eras. We had a whole global pandemic more enough time to release music in her home studio . She is ridiculous. At least she outlasted Fergie and Nelly. 3 of them slayed 2006. P!nk's I'm Not Dead didn't take off until 2007 in the US, always the underdog. P!nk won in terms of longevity though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Red Hot Kinda Love is a tineless bop. Lotus was mismanaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 It's funny how haters said she is a fad yet threads about her are often made by them on Base whereas Jessica Simpson and Mandy Moore were never mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Love Will Find a Way I remember the day I went to the CD store to buy her debut album in August 1999. So many girls were dressing her style. What a phenomenon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimmelaugh Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Beautiful Garbage said: Yeah, probably the same goes for Latin America from what I've heard. It's crazy how often people go on talent shows all over Asia and sing her songs still. It makes me think of kpop idols STANNING Xtina's discography even to this day Dalshabet performing Lady Marmalade and Laboum performing Come On Over in The Unit in 2017 Spoiler Hyolyn recently covering Save Me from Myself Spoiler I remember watching another show Queendom, where singers Kei and Hwasa were talking about performing Save Me from Myself together too (but they eventually chose Billie Eilish's wish you were gay). The stanning for Save Me from Myself Gorgeous GORGEOUS song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XAMJ Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Xtina summarized is career wasted by poor management. imagine if she had a competent team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtripped Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Irving Azzoff was the worst thing that happened to Xtina's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReH2o Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Xtripped said: Irving Azzoff was the worst thing that happened to Xtina's career. We missed Steven Kurtz 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 hours ago, Xtripped said: Irving Azzoff was the worst thing that happened to Xtina's career. He was actually against her doing a Spanish album & even asked her why she was doing it AGAIN in 2022 He’s so out of touch of what her fans want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Side note: Does anyone actually think (Bionic) the song would’ve made a great first single choice? It’s different & doesn’t sound like what was on radio at the time. The song even charted on its own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xtripped Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, Power love said: He was actually against her doing a Spanish album & even asked her why she was doing it AGAIN in 2022 He’s so out of touch of what her fans want. He killed Xtina relationship with American radio, remember when he tried to sue radio stations? I'm still mad at that Bionic tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power love Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 22 minutes ago, Xtripped said: remember when he tried to sue radio stations? Girl WHAT?!? He tried what?!? Why? What’s the tea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Power love said: Side note: Does anyone actually think (Bionic) the song would’ve made a great first single choice? It’s different & doesn’t sound like what was on radio at the time. The song even charted on its own. That song could have been a single of course. But Monday Morning and Vanity are definitely lead single material. Elastic Love for the second single. Bionic album is a pop masterpiece. I am livid that Bionic only sold over 330k copies in the US. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emil Larsen Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 9 hours ago, XAMJ said: Xtina summarized is career wasted by poor management. imagine if she had a competent team Bionic truly deserves to have been a big era with a sold out arena tour and four top ten singles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Garbage Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 11 hours ago, gimmelaugh said: It makes me think of kpop idols STANNING Xtina's discography even to this day Dalshabet performing Lady Marmalade and Laboum performing Come On Over in The Unit in 2017 Isn't one of the girls from Blackpink a stan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beautiful Garbage Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 hours ago, Power love said: Side note: Does anyone actually think (Bionic) the song would’ve made a great first single choice? It’s different & doesn’t sound like what was on radio at the time. The song even charted on its own. I think it would've been a bold move, way bolder than Not Myself Tonight. Bionic is great but it could've been a hit or miss. I'm not sure how radio stations would've reacted. I mean, the intro alone can put a lot of people off. It's only when the first verse kicks in you realize how good it is. I feel like Prima Donna and Not Myself Tonight were the safest choices to make here. But there were so many more risky ones that deserved single treatment - Bionic, Birds of Prey, Monday Morning, all great contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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