fan base Britney Spears

[Avenger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amw8K4Hk7ls

 

Ms Mojo stanning Britney lately. 

[Avenger]

 

[Alexz]

 

[Aiya]

[magazine]

On 11/12/2023 at 11:16 AM, Erreur2 La Nature said:

Britney's voice always sounds so perfect on Dua's songs 

 

 

came here to post this

 

a smash that got away 

[Aiya]

 

[slw84]

21 minutes ago, Aiya said:

 

HarmoNEY of her future grammy winning song. Love this for us.

[Unusualyou]

3 hours ago, Aiya said:

 

She was so confident, I hope she comeback 

[Rev8]

Watched a recent clip on Twitter,

 

 

That everything was genuine and Britney felt connected to the songs' story

 

Max is saying here that Britney actually controlled the narrative in her albums (that she worked with him) herself :

 

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He is keen, too, to give the artists he has worked with credit, even when, as he puts it delicately, “someone isn’t a songwriter per se”. Britney Spears, for instance. “She’s a genius,” he says, popping a fresh snus. “So much had happened to her in that [early period] and she had to grow up quickly. We had conversations with her about what she wanted to do and what she wanted to say.”

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/25/were-not-made-to-be-famous-max-martin-the-powerhouse-of-pure-pop

 

He also gives her props for her way of singing:

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When I heard Britney singing I just knew instantly. The way she recorded that song, she added another dimension

and we know that she wanted to sing in a specific way for BOMT (Tainted Love story), which makes me think...

..if she isn't the sole creator of the "baby voice", she deffo contributed as much as anyone else in creating it

 

 

 

Overall - there are so many contradicting stuff to how media and people, painted her out to be (and some of that, still being ran in stan circles)

Honestly, I am thinking of doing a thread on how much control she actually had in her career..

 

[Aiya]

24 minutes ago, Rev8 said:

Watched a recent clip on Twitter,

 

 

That everything was genuine and Britney felt connected to the songs' story

 

Max is saying here that Britney actually controlled the narrative in her albums (that she worked with him) herself :

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/25/were-not-made-to-be-famous-max-martin-the-powerhouse-of-pure-pop

 

He also gives her props for her way of singing:

and we know that she wanted to sing in a specific way for BOMT (Tainted Love story), which makes me think...

..if she isn't the sole creator of the "baby voice", she deffo contributed as much as anyone else in creating it

 

 

 

Overall - there are so many contradicting stuff to how media and people, painted her out to be (and some of that, still being ran in stan circles)

Honestly, I am thinking of doing a thread on how much control she actually had in her career..

 

From the book I got the impression that she loved her early eras and was in control of her career.

The story about recording BOMT made me happy cause it shows how MM actually trusted and believed in her.

Edited November 19, 2023 by Aiya

[Lana Banana]

Did y’all see recent candids of her glowing

[mystery]

Did anyone just see that Breathe on Me post she quickly deleted?

[Alexz]

On 11/19/2023 at 4:51 PM, mystery said:

Did anyone just see that Breathe on Me post she quickly deleted?

She has three posts with Breathe On Me now.

[Breathe On Moi]

she’s trying to tell me something and I know it 

[Abracadabra]

On 11/19/2023 at 8:29 PM, Rev8 said:

Watched a recent clip on Twitter,

 

 

That everything was genuine and Britney felt connected to the songs' story

 

Max is saying here that Britney actually controlled the narrative in her albums (that she worked with him) herself :

 

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/25/were-not-made-to-be-famous-max-martin-the-powerhouse-of-pure-pop

 

He also gives her props for her way of singing:

and we know that she wanted to sing in a specific way for BOMT (Tainted Love story), which makes me think...

..if she isn't the sole creator of the "baby voice", she deffo contributed as much as anyone else in creating it

 

 

 

Overall - there are so many contradicting stuff to how media and people, painted her out to be (and some of that, still being ran in stan circles)

Honestly, I am thinking of doing a thread on how much control she actually had in her career..

 

Long post here but just wanted to add, Steve Lunt spoke on The Original Doll podcast about how the idea that her vocal tone ("the baby voice") was manufactured or pushed by the label is completely untrue, and that it was just Britney's voice and the way she sang, and that it became more prominent due to the types of songs they were recording, and we now know that she deliberately used more vocal fry when recording BOMT because it was a stylistic choice and she liked the sound.

 

The idea that the voice was pushed onto her by the label or was created by Max is purely a fictional theory that took off because it ties into this idea of her being controlled and molded from the very beginning, but that actually isn't true. It's also pretty easily debunked by the fact that we have audio of her singing before she even signed to Jive (like her cover of "Open Arms" at that wedding) and the very early demo's she recorded at Jive ("Luv the Hurt Away", "You Got It All") that were all pre-Max where the vocal fry and so-called baby voice are already prominent.

 

I also think it partly comes from the fact that Britney's very early appearances on Star Search showed a much more theatrical tone to her voice with more range, and her days on MMC showed a deeper and more soulful sound to her voice, so that's led people to believe that the voice she developed later isn't her "real" voice or whatever, but it was really just a stylistic change to fit the music she was recording. Her deep soulful voice wouldn't have worked the same on teen-pop songs like BOMT, and her deeper tones are still present in certain parts of that album. She's always just kind of been a vocal chameleon and I think that confuses people.

[Jeremiah]

23 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Long post here but just wanted to add, Steve Lunt spoke on The Original Doll podcast about how the idea that her vocal tone ("the baby voice") was manufactured or pushed by the label is completely untrue, and that it was just Britney's voice and the way she sang, and that it became more prominent due to the types of songs they were recording, and we now know that she deliberately used more vocal fry when recording BOMT because it was a stylistic choice and she liked the sound.

 

The idea that the voice was pushed onto her by the label or was created by Max is purely a fictional theory that took off because it ties into this idea of her being controlled and molded from the very beginning, but that actually isn't true. It's also pretty easily debunked by the fact that we have audio of her singing before she even signed to Jive (like her cover of "Open Arms" at that wedding) and the very early demo's she recorded at Jive ("Luv the Hurt Away", "You Got It All") that were all pre-Max where the vocal fry and so-called baby voice are already prominent.

 

I also think it partly comes from the fact that Britney's very early appearances on Star Search showed a much more theatrical tone to her voice with more range, and her days on MMC showed a deeper and more soulful sound to her voice, so that's led people to believe that the voice she developed later isn't her "real" voice or whatever, but it was really just a stylistic change to fit the music she was recording. Her deep soulful voice wouldn't have worked the same on teen-pop songs like BOMT, and her deeper tones are still present in certain parts of that album. She's always just kind of been a vocal chameleon and I think that confuses people.

I remember someone in here saying Eric Foster White kinda took credit for the “baby voice” (he’s one of the first that worked with Britney). Still, I don’t believe the “baby voice” is something manufactured that was forced on her but rather something they found in her and suggested to stick with that.

 

Talking about Steve Lunt, he also said the sexy or Lolita image wasn’t something from the label, they always went for “cute” Britney. That also lines up with the story of the original version of Sometimes (was that from the same podcast episode? Don’t remember well). It’d be cool to also have a thread or section (@Rev8) debunking the “sexualized by the label” myth and that it was Britney who pushed for that style (also see: BOMT MV, Rolling Stone cover).

[Abracadabra]

2 minutes ago, Jeremiah said:

I remember someone in here saying Eric Foster White kinda took credit for the “baby voice” (he’s one of the first that worked with Britney). Still, I don’t believe the “baby voice” is something manufactured that was forced on her but rather something they found in her and suggested to stick with that.

 

Talking about Steve Lunt, he also said the sexy or Lolita image wasn’t something from the label, they always went for “cute” Britney. That also lines up with the story of the original version of Sometimes (was that from the same podcast episode? Don’t remember well). It’d be cool to also have a thread or section (@Rev8) debunking the “sexualized by the label” myth and that it was Britney who pushed for that style (also see: BOMT MV, Rolling Stone cover).

Yeah, it's weird to me that so many people buy into the idea that Jive deliberately marketed her and planned out her image as some Lolita, when we know that the schoolgirl theme was Britney's idea, and Jive had wanted to do a superhero themed video  and in that CNN "documentary" a couple of years ago, someone who worked at Jive back then talked about how a lot of people at the label were very against the more risqué image because they thought it would make her too controversial and parents wouldn't support her, but Britney's vision was the one that went ahead.

 

As much as Jive's initial concepts for the marketing were pretty dumb, I actually think they deserve more credit for actually listening to a 16 year old artist with no status in the industry, and trusting her vision. That might be an unpopular opinion to praise them, but it's kinda true.

[Alexz]

OMG I need Luv The Hurt Away on streaming now.

[Jeremiah]

36 minutes ago, Miichael said:

Yeah, it's weird to me that so many people buy into the idea that Jive deliberately marketed her and planned out her image as some Lolita, when we know that the schoolgirl theme was Britney's idea, and Jive had wanted to do a superhero themed video  and in that CNN "documentary" a couple of years ago, someone who worked at Jive back then talked about how a lot of people at the label were very against the more risqué image because they thought it would make her too controversial and parents wouldn't support her, but Britney's vision was the one that went ahead.

 

As much as Jive's initial concepts for the marketing were pretty dumb, I actually think they deserve more credit for actually listening to a 16 year old artist with no status in the industry, and trusting her vision. That might be an unpopular opinion to praise them, but it's kinda true.

I've always seen in awe that one interview where Britney explains the school theme was a better idea than the superhero thing. She was not only an artist, she was in her marketing bag and as a TEENAGER, having a better understanding of her own brand and the target audience. And let's not forget the DANCING. It wasn't in Jive's board but she just came in and said "yup, and I'll be dancing". They were wise on listening to her and letting her be.

[poki]

On 11/19/2023 at 3:52 PM, Aiya said:

From the book I got the impression that she loved her early eras and was in control of her career.

The story about recording BOMT made me happy cause it shows how MM actually trusted and believed in her.

Same, from what I know about her music career, Britney album was when the problems started. First two eras everyone was on the same page "we need Max Martin pop bops" and then it started to go downhill with different visions in mind. 

[Aiya]

18 minutes ago, Hey Dude said:

Same, from what I know about her music career, Britney album was when the problems started. First two eras everyone was on the same page "we need Max Martin pop bops" and then it started to go downhill with different visions in mind. 

It was discussed on the other thread a few days ago, how BTG was planned as a lead, but she had a strange falling out with the producer and jive thought his songs were not so good for them.

[Alexz]

 

[Rev8]

 

[Avenger]

 

[poki]

Worldwide streams 

A modern day hit 

A successful book 

Impact 

 

How can anyone discredit her?