Mitsouko Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, ShouldersSideways said: There are huge billboards going up of the album cover In America?
ShouldersSideways Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 Just now, Mitsouko said: In America? I actually only saw one - a tweet of it in Milan. I'm a liar, I lie a lot.
Dreajae Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, carameldelight said: I think Bey and her team are in a bubble, I don’t think they really understand fans frustrations. You think so? She trolled Hive for a reason with those "What is B7?" updates. She's made jokes about no promo and has explained in interviews how she feels about it. She can log into her social media but prefers Andrew or whoever to curate her posts. She knows.
carameldelight Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, simon said: Not necessarily. Crazy In Love was done the night before the album was due. The original first single was gonna be Naughty Girl. With the album drop, radio, and video - it looks like Break My Soul will be #1 on album release week - which ultimately is what we all want. Before the album was due is completely different then changing right before a 6 week “announcement:rollout” of a new era.? It may very well still go number one, fingers crossed. With streaming slowing down now, I feel like the best impact would be to release it now and not have to compete with streaming from the other songs on the album. Also, some of us were hoping for the second single to be released. I get that it’s all a moot point however it’s not like we have much to discuss or go off besides maybe it being a dance album. Edited July 17, 2022 by carameldelight
Mitsouko Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: I actually only saw one - a tweet of it in Milan. I'm a liar, I lie a lot. oh well. I hope they’ll be all over Manhattan. When EIL came out the picture of her in the MCM bustier was on every wifi tower on the sidewalks. I thought oh wow, promo
Cbreezy Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 (edited) 25 minutes ago, carameldelight said: There has yet to be a reasonable argument as to why this “ strategic” or “intentional” withholding of the video will make a difference that it wouldn’t have done on day 1 of release. If they changed the single at the last minute that is a bit of incompetence. With all due respect, the justification is literally right there. If she drops the video in alignment with the album release THOSE STREAMS COUNT TOWARDS THE ALBUM'S FIRST WEEK SALES. So, for argument sake, assuming Columbia are crunching the audience data they have now and it's looking at more of a 250k launch than the bigger figures were all hoping for first week, then it makes TOTAL SENSE to USE the video to bolster those numbers. It literally could be the difference between a <250k launch and a 300k+ launch. As a cherry on top, the song also gets a re-peak too with the arrival of the album + said video. It's a literal win-win. I know I'd much rather higher first week album sales than fuss over the top 10 peak of a song few of us had (total) confidence would even go top 10 as a solo track pre it dropping. Make no mistake, I also wanted the video three weeks ago, but I'm so confused at how fans (especially we stans who follow this ish much closer than the average) seem to be missing the bigger picture and likely play Bey's team are making. Also, changing a song last minute while arguably messy, is not incompetence. We're talking music here. Granted it's the music business, it's still "supposed to be" about creativity and artistic conviction. As such, if Bey felt "compelled" to make a switch (for example), that is not incompetence. More an inconvenience (at worst). Edited July 17, 2022 by Cbreezy
ShouldersSideways Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Mitsouko said: oh well. I hope they’ll be all over Manhattan. When EIL came out the picture of her in the MCM bustier was on every wifi tower on the sidewalks. I thought oh wow, promo You know what... don't even bother putting them up.
SashaDevachelli Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 Beyoncé dropping everything to fly to Dusseldorf to perform Telephone randomly while completely ignoring BMS feels like a very on brand Beyonce thing to do, honestly I’m perched Might as well perform BMS right after too, run those german streams up
Ari29 Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Cbreezy said: Or they were locked and loaded with a different single and then went with BMS (something I'm sure we already appreciate given the amazing response to the song). I’ve been feeling like this since week two of BMS…but after a few passive aggressive subliminal posts in base I stopped posting here altogether. Bey, historically, changes the lead single all the time and it’s usually one of the last songs recorded that they end up going with. The signs of this being the case with BMS have been there from the beginning. Starting with them not having a artwork ready at release…
simon Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 32 minutes ago, Shelter said: Fans better stream the hell out of it album week and not ignore it for the newer songs It will still be heavily playlisted so it will still see a boost. Plus it’s Track 6 which is early in the album
simon Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Armani? said: For week 1, I estimate 1. 20M+ streams (Double if a standalone video lands on youtube) 2. 95M Radio Audience Looks like a #1. I agree with the user that it is smart to save things for album week especially if they are forecasting 500-600K units first week.
carameldelight Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 28 minutes ago, Cbreezy said: With all due respect, the justification is literally right there. If she drops the video in alignment with the album release THOSE STREAMS COUNT TOWARDS THE ALBUM'S FIRST WEEK SALES. So, for argument sake, assuming Columbia are crunching the audience data they have now and it's looking at more of a 250k launch than the bigger figures were all hoping for first week, then it makes TOTAL SENSE to USE the video to bolster those numbers. It literally could be the difference between a <250k launch and a 300k+ launch. As a cherry on top, the song also gets a re-peak too with the arrival of the album + said video. It's a literal win-win. I know I'd much rather higher first week album sales than fuss over the top 10 peak of a song few of us had (total) confidence would even go top 10 as a solo track pre it dropping. Make no mistake, I also wanted the video three weeks ago, but I'm so confused at how fans (especially we stans who follow this ish much closer than the average) seem to be missing the bigger picture and likely play Bey's team are making. Also, changing a song last minute while arguably messy, is not incompetence. We're talking music here. Granted it's the music business, it's still "supposed to be" about creativity and artistic conviction. As such, if Bey felt "compelled" to make a switch (for example), that is not incompetence. More an inconvenience (at worst). The streams and video will count towards the album release regardless, again, the same outcome will happen. Keeping fans in the dark for the same payoff doesn’t justify the means to me. I understand where you are coming from though.
carameldelight Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 12 minutes ago, Ari29 said: I’ve been feeling like this since week two of BMS…but after a few passive aggressive subliminal posts in base I stopped posting here altogether. Bey, historically, changes the lead single all the time and it’s usually one of the last songs recorded that they end up going with. The signs of this being the case with BMS have been there from the beginning. Starting with them not having a artwork ready at release… Didn’t the insider mention break my soul was the single a while ago though? Wasn’t there a text thread that was leaked?
simon Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 Also I know we want multiple #1 records this era, but with multiple acts - that might help.
simon Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, carameldelight said: The streams and video will count towards the album release regardless, again, the same outcome will happen. Keeping fans in the dark for the same payoff doesn’t justify the means to me. I understand where you are coming from though. The streams for the video would have not counted towards first week sales if it were released with the single.
Ari29 Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, carameldelight said: Didn’t the insider mention break my soul was the single a while ago though? Wasn’t there a text thread that was leaked? I don’t know, could’ve missed that…I was mostly basing it on Freedia’s interviews the day of or the day after the song was released. She said she got the call about the sample about a little while ago and then she met Bey’s team and Bey herself in LA about a week ago. She posted on her IG on June 16 about being in LA and also how she just found out Beyonce has a new album coming. It’s not concrete but it definitely seems like this was when they met and played her the final version of BMS
Draper. Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, Armani? said: I feel like some fans are missing how amazing this is. I’m really happy for this single’s performance on charts.
Shelter Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 19 minutes ago, simon said: For week 1, I estimate 1. 20M+ streams (Double if a standalone video lands on youtube) 2. 95M Radio Audience Looks like a #1. I agree with the user that it is smart to save things for album week especially if they are forecasting 500-600K units first week. It’s not going to have that radio audience. It would need 2 million + updates everyday from now
KRZYINLUV Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 2 minutes ago, Draper. said: I feel like some fans are missing how amazing this is. I’m really happy for this single’s performance on charts. They too busy complaining and bitching about what they want and what “should be” to realize how epic this is, especially after B completely avoiding radio for almost a decade.
SashaDevachelli Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 The song is really doing great despite the lack of attention it was given, it really shows how people completely were wrong about how she was over after EiL and TG underperforming.
Tripthelight Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 27 minutes ago, Armani? said: Whoa…I thought it was going to drop to 11? This is amazing for week 4
Bey Admired Posted July 17, 2022 Posted July 17, 2022 I just can’t see her releasing the video for BMS at the same time as the album. It would just take attention away from the album as a whole. And we all know how Bey is about us experiencing a “body of work”. I really don’t know what she has up her sleeve, if anything. Just unfathomable to me that she hasn’t already released the video to BMS. One thing we have never had to worry about with Bey is the visuals. But here we are…
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