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[Kristie Kuwa]

She takes herself WAY too serious. That much is clear. All the praise eventually got to her. LA has tainted her

Edited September 11 by Kristie Kuwa

[ShouldersSideways]

32 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

She takes herself WAY too serious. That much is clear. All the praise eventually got to her. LA has tainted her

Well, this is the same woman that charged a laptop, waited for it to boot up, and then loosed a single tear to ask no one in particular, "Why did God give me this talent?" She then watched it back and thought it was a profound moment worthy of sharing.

 

Sooooo was it LA or has she always had this in her? This is nothing new, she just used to have more off the cuff human moments. 

[Kristie Kuwa]

15 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Well, this is the same woman that charged a laptop, waited for it to boot up, and then loosed a single tear to ask no one in particular, "Why did God give me this talent?" She then watched it back and thought it was a profound moment worthy of sharing.

 

Sooooo was it LA or has she always had this in her? This is nothing new, she just used to have more off the cuff human moments. 

Ok tea. But she seems even more in a bubble now.

Its like she doesnt realize that at the end of the day, she is just a musician making music. Shes not changing the world. The gatekeepers keep gatekeeping, the racists keep being racists. She just happened to be very lucky to be put in a situation where people admire her for her talent.

Yea, you have Shaboozey scoring a hit today because its en vogue for the season, but trust we wont see more black people having insane success in Country further down the line. 

Its the concept of privilege - those who have do NOT want to share it. Period. And as humans, those with privilege go to extreme lengths to maintain their privilege (in the most extreme case, to warfaring).

 

So fulfil your destiny hag and do what u were meant to do: Music and entertain.

Stop being such an annoying hag, it literally kills the enjoyment following you.

 

[Bicassie]

20 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said:

Ok tea. But she seems even more in a bubble now.

Its like she doesnt realize that at the end of the day, she is just a musician making music. Shes not changing the world. The gatekeepers keep gatekeeping, the racists keep being racists. She just happened to be very lucky to be put in a situation where people admire her for her talent.

Yea, you have Shaboozey scoring a hit today because its en vogue for the season, but trust we wont see more black people having insane success in Country further down the line. 

Its the concept of privilege - those who have do NOT want to share it. Period. And as humans, those with privilege go to extreme lengths to maintain their privilege (in the most extreme case, to warfaring).

 

So fulfil your destiny hag and do what u were meant to do: Music and entertain.

Stop being such an annoying hag, it literally kills the enjoyment following you.

 

I'm crine, the hive stings mother like no other

[yonsé]

12 hours ago, Burn said:

IF the plan was always for the visuals to be released after all 3 albums then there's no way they're coming at the same time, or even soon after act iii's release. She's said a few times about how she wants to give the music time to breathe so she'll definitely do that with the next album just as she did act I and ii. The visuals are more likely to come at least 6-12 months after act iii. So realistically we need to be prepared for another draught after act iii and it could be another 3-4 years from now that we actually get the visuals, if we ever do. 

That to me is insane. No one will care by that time lol

 

Waiting until 2027 to see alien superstar choreography is CRAZY.  
 

if no one watched BIK a year after the gift, why would anyone care FIVE YEARS after?

Edited September 11 by yonsé

[yonsé]

12 hours ago, KRZYINLUV said:

y'all love to be dense and dumb. The press release for Renaissance said that visuals were coming at a later date. Parkwood ALSO posted about the Renaissance visual drop. There's been CONFIRMED reports of her filming several films and also a Renaissance film being shopped to different streamers. TS Madison has also said that what she's up to is OTHERWORLDLY. It's not that the visuals aren't coming, the music is enough for NOW. Also, we have so many other things to worry about and fight for. We're getting visuals 2026 because ACT III is closer than one would think.  

She easily could have changed her mind.

 

why are we acting like FWT wasn't filmed and edited for HBO before she scrapped it?

 

just because she teased it 2 years ago doesn't mean it's still coming 

 

[Titanbaddie]

I hope she's not overestimating the attention spans of this generation. If the idea is to release the visuals around 2027-2028 after the trilogy she'd be betting on a new generation of music listeners who have no idea she's one of the greatest visual artist of all time to want to see it. 

[Draper.]

1 hour ago, yonsé said:

She easily could have changed her mind.

 

why are we acting like FWT wasn't filmed and edited for HBO before she scrapped it?

 

just because she teased it 2 years ago doesn't mean it's still coming 

The difference is she never said that was coming at all. And she didn't tease it only 2 years ago: there's the Parkwood Halloween tweet, there's the tour interlude, the Amen lyric video connecting with the I'm That Girl teaser, Nadia Lee Cohen being allowed to say she directed the visuals for Cowboy Carter, her using images from the visuals in the SirDavis commercial just last week, etc. 

 

If they were scrapped I think she would be clear about it after all of that. 

[Cbreezy]

13 hours ago, KRZYINLUV said:

y'all love to be dense and dumb. The press release for Renaissance said that visuals were coming at a later date. Parkwood ALSO posted about the Renaissance visual drop. There's been CONFIRMED reports of her filming several films and also a Renaissance film being shopped to different streamers. TS Madison has also said that what she's up to is OTHERWORLDLY. It's not that the visuals aren't coming, the music is enough for NOW. Also, we have so many other things to worry about and fight for. We're getting visuals 2026 because ACT III is closer than one would think.  

I'm with you for the most part, because during the highs, lows, and dry spells, it's always been vital to me to keep the following facts at the forefront:

 

a) The Rennie press release ALWAYS specified "visuals at a latter date"

 

b) She literally shot multiple visuals! We have seen a lot via the tour interludes, leaked set pics and clips etc. 

 

c) Nadia Lee Cohen literally confimed a CC visual component is also in the bag and coming.

 

d) Frustrated as we are and as frustrating as it is: she actually never gave us a date. She's been vague from the get-go and even in this interview, her words aren't verbatim about there being no visuals. 

 

Putting all emotion and frustration aside and thinking fiscally, it's not a very "Beyonce" thing to do to spend MILLIONS on a venture and simply can it. It literally goes against her entire standing as a business wiz.

 

It makes WAY more sense for ish to have gone wrong with what was filmed (which she is not immune to) and regrouping to figure out a way forward and crucially a way TO THE BAG rather than blowing a bag on something that will never come out. I could even see the tea being that she plunged way more $$$$ into reshoots and re-imagining the visuals "to get it right" (a very Beyonce, Virgo, perfectionist thing to do) and THAT becoming part of the "success" story when  she gets the huge check she's seeking for the venture + the accolades it will receive.

 

At the same time, there is a first time for everything....including making a huge misstep like f**king up the visuals and genuinely scrapping them. It'd be very un-Beyonce and is IMO the most unlikely reality, but ultimately anything is technically possible. Even then it wouldn't be a stain on her legacy because she can always crutch on the fact that...nothing was ever promised or confirmed in terms of dates, details, or a concept (i.e. we may indeed be the visuals lol). 

 

 

 

[Crayzik]

2 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Well, this is the same woman that charged a laptop, waited for it to boot up, and then loosed a single tear to ask no one in particular, "Why did God give me this talent?" She then watched it back and thought it was a profound moment worthy of sharing.

 

Sooooo was it LA or has she always had this in her? This is nothing new, she just used to have more off the cuff human moments. 

it reminded me of this GIF

 

 

the fact that she recorded her hand typing nonsense (Z S D R) then her face like The Thinker truly one of a kind

[Ari29]

18 hours ago, RedOne said:

Like @Kh-Loud has mentioned and it was what I was thinking as well that it's about the tour demand. She thinks if she just posts the whole concert on streaming it will diminish the exclusivity and rarity of her performances these days and decrease the demand for the tickets for her next tour that I assume is coming in 2025. 

But she usually uses her performances to increase the demand for the upcoming tour. This has been the case since MCSWT. Super Bowl '13…Super Bowl '16….Coachella '18…Dubai '23

 

[alien superstore]

3 hours ago, ShouldersSideways said:

Well, this is the same woman that charged a laptop, waited for it to boot up, and then loosed a single tear to ask no one in particular, "Why did God give me this talent?" She then watched it back and thought it was a profound moment worthy of sharing.

 

Sooooo was it LA or has she always had this in her? This is nothing new, she just used to have more off the cuff human moments. 

This is fair, she literally sent a cease and desist to Buzzfeed for unflattering stills of her during a live performance which had already been broadcast across the globe. 

 

I like how seriously she takes herself, it keeps her out of drama and puts the focus on her art. We need more professionalism in the arts tbh.

[alien superstore]

1 hour ago, Titanbaddie said:

I hope she's not overestimating the attention spans of this generation. If the idea is to release the visuals around 2027-2028 after the trilogy she'd be betting on a new generation of music listeners who have no idea she's one of the greatest visual artist of all time to want to see it. 

The generation that have Black is King on streaming and...do not care about it in any way shape or form?

 

(That being said, I honestly don't think BiK is in any way close to her best work)

[CristianGarcia]

ACT 1 was definitely supposed to have visuals but I don't think she was satisfied with it on time. The era began… Break My Soul went #1, and she had record breaking tour sales… At that point it was evident she didn't need visuals to carry the era.. (a first for her since "4")

 

ACT 2 visuals is definitely out the picture. At least for now…. And although CC did decently I don't think she's planning to tour until ACT 3 is out. 
 

At this point the visuals are just a secret weapon she can use to drive up hype for the trilogy tour... Which we all know she won't need that. 

All 3 ACTS might just go without visuals and she'll save that for the album that comes after.. in 2028-2030. 
 

 

Edited September 11 by CristianGarcia

[helpthomas]

20 hours ago, helpthomas said:

i've been yearning to see the rennie film again ever since i went to the global premiere. so my question is: has anyone stumbled upon any type of (good, hq) recording or rip or even ill*g*l le*k of the film yet? because i simply cannot spend any more patience

gotta bump my own question bc i'm desperate

[BeyBronts]

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

Edited September 11 by BeyBronts

[alien superstore]

1 minute ago, BeyBronts said:

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

Link the rumour!
 

Also...where are you guys seeing rock in these photos? Is it the cowboy hat? The whisky? The western saloon doors? The soft glam? The high heels? The dolly parton hair? The Cowboy Carter bleach wig? I'm honestly at a loss haha

[alien superstore]

11 hours ago, sleepevaded said:

all i know is she didn't scrap them nnn she knows exactly what she's doing and there's not a single universe in which BEYONCÉ would publicly announce+confirm+tease visuals and not release them lol

look around you bb

[BeyBronts]

1 minute ago, alien superstore said:

Link the rumour!
 

Also...where are you guys seeing rock in these photos? Is it the cowboy hat? The whisky? The western saloon doors? The soft glam? The high heels? The dolly parton hair? The Cowboy Carter bleach wig? I'm honestly at a loss haha

This came from a friend who has a close relation at Ticketek Australia... so no link, sorry! I obviously don't believe it though haha 

[Kristie Kuwa]

26 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

The anouncement has been imminent for the last 1 year 

[Cbreezy]

Granted logic and predictability have long gone out of the window with this trilogy, I legit could see her dropping the visual component (for everything) in conjunction with the launch of Act III. Thus tying everything together, ending the chaos, and making it the one Act to truly benefit from having visuals out of the gate (which will dub as "promo" in place of her doing anything conventional). The drawback is that Acts I and II will, visually speaking, have been the sacrificial lambs...but hey it is what it is at this point. 

 

IMO she's used up the goodwill and stunt-ery on Acts I and II with the whole "no visuals" thing. Even from a marketing perspective, it's no longer the flex she thinks it is. I'm very dialed into the reality that Bey is not above stunt marketing and has, in fact, very actively embraced it for the last decade plus. From the surprise drop to the visual album to the genre experimenting. There's always an angle, a story, a (for the lack of a better word)...gimmick. It's worked well, but as we even saw with BIK (which is exceptional and ironically her best visual to date iMO), there comes a point when the audience gets tired of the same marketing schtick. Especially from someone who has the fortunate/unfortunate rep of always having to innovate every time.

 

That plus the fact that the GP has diminishing attention spans plus the Hive's frustrations pluuuuus the fact Act III is likely another left genre (which comes with the risk of polarizing), I can't see her chancing another visual-less release unless she's looking to flop. CC has done well but it wasn't Rennie from a momentum perspective, so there has to be a fresh stunt (outside of just another genre switch) for Act III and I really think it will be finally giving the visuals and making everything make sense (holistically).

 

Sidebar: Pls spare me the "she doesn't care about sales. She's a saboteur!" spiel. Because her flogging those Beyince vinyls to snatch high first week sales says otherwise and makes abundantly clear that she and her label care about her commercial performance. 2000%.

This whole thing, in a bizarre way, just reminds that as much as her perfectionist nature is legit and baked into her brand, the reality is that ish can and has gone left and forced her to "figure it out" as best she can. IMO, the following have all gone awry (against the backdrop of the music doing well) and impacted where we are now:

 

* The Visual Itself: she wasn't satisfied, bunch of reshoots, and potential reconfiguration of the entire concept.

 

* Streamer Push Back: I also believe the streamer reluctance tea (as they largely have pulled back on splashy/costly music partnerships. That AMC model she and Taylor did is becoming way more attractive/lucrative to stars who otherwise would have got big streaming checks around Homecoming time e.g. BTS did an AMC film, Usher doing something similar now off the back of his resurgence).

 

* Injury: We know she got the surgery just before the tour, but she had been shooting videos before that. Assuming she had been managing to get by, I can imagine that would have affected her ability for things like choreo. A posey-posey, choreo-starved visual for a Dance album would have got her dragged and may actually contribute to her (alleged) dissatisfaction. That and her aesthetic (another day, another convo). Let's just say our girl looks more agile and Beyonce-esque now than she did in 2022 when shooting.

 

* The Sphere Fell Through: We shouldn't undercut how one piece of the puzzle f**king up can have a domino effect on other ish. Assuming she really was teasing a residency with the Super Bowl commercial, it's safe to say, she would have launched it this Summer (in alignment with her kids' schedule). That changing easily could have thrown the entire CC era off its axis (behind the scenes). Her only other live output would be a stadium tour and we know she's a summer babe. Stadium dates are booked months, sometimes up to a year in advance. So, the Sphere falling through would automatically fling a stadium tour or even a residency elsewhere immediately into summer 2025 territory.

 

This was way longer than intended lol, but I just find this current phase of her career so intriguing. IMO, this chapter of hers is way more layered and complex than the info she's given us or what we may assume at times.

Edited September 11 by Cbreezy

[Kalmanta]

22 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

This came from a friend who has a close relation at Ticketek Australia... so no link, sorry! I obviously don't believe it though haha 

It'd way too late for an announcement, artists typically start touring there around late October/November. And I don't think she would a late 2025 Australia leg „imminently". She most likely won't step foot on another continent for a tour not called Europe or North America for the rest of her 40s and early 50s. 

[Cbreezy]

44 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

Ughhh the GQ spread is immaculate, she looks sooo good  it's giving transition to ACT III rock 

 

I guess this interview also confirms why she never returned to Asia/Australia - she said only tours when it fits in with her kids' school holidays. We really LOST 😭 and will continue to lose. Although, I heard another rumour today that she's about to announce a 'global' tour imminently... lol 

Hoping it's true. Also saw this about UK 2025 dates and don't know if it was posted here:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/30345038/beyonce-head-to-head-oasis-summer-stadium-gigs/

 

Trying not to get too conjure-ish, but her popping up/out (e.g. GQ) tends to align with her dropping/doing something. It may well be a promotional piece for SirDavis and Cecred. But could also form part of creating pre-tour announcement visibility. 

 

2 minutes ago, BeyBronts said:

as I said, I didn't believe it when I was told - especially as tour 'rumours' have been swirling for months now.  

I doubt she will tour until act 3 has been released and she will perform the acts as a trilogy

I iono about the "touring when Act III" is out idea

 

The vibe I'm getting is that each Act is its own distinct... thing. 

 

I feel it was/is: Rennie = full-fledged tour / CC = residency, at least the initial plan / Act III = tour. maybe promoted as her swansong for a while.

 

For instance, I can't see a setup where the material on Rennie would work conceptually in the world of CC and vice versa. So, I'd be inclined to think she has something fully fleshed out for CC (which is a long af album as it is) and something specific or Act III.

 

That said, we don't know what Act III is and, to your point, maybe it will work sonically and visually in the realm of CC (Country and Rock are quite aligned aesthetically). But merging it together when Rennie got its own standalone tour would slightly undermine it IMO and establish Rennie tour and era overal as supreme. Which, even though it likely is, doesn't serve to "sell" the current era and upcoming one with the sheen and shine deserved.

 

TBH, I know I'm being pedantic because it's "Beyonce". We're all going even if it's a b-sides tour lol.

Edited September 11 by Cbreezy

[BeyBronts]

18 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

Hoping it's true. Also saw this about UK 2025 dates and don't know if it was posted here:

 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/30345038/beyonce-head-to-head-oasis-summer-stadium-gigs/

 

Trying not to get too conjure-ish, but her popping up/out (e.g. GQ) tends to align with her dropping/doing something. It may well be a promotional piece for SirDavis and Cecred. But could also form part of creating pre-tour announcement visibility. 

 

I iono about the "touring when Act III" is out idea

 

The vibe I'm getting is that each Act is its own distinct... thing. 

 

I feel it was/is: Rennie = full-fledged tour / CC = residency, at least the initial plan / Act III = tour. maybe promoted as her swansong for a while.

 

For instance, I can't see a setup where the material on Rennie would work conceptually in the world of CC and vice versa. So, I'd be inclined to think she has something fully fleshed out for CC (which is a long af album as it is) and something specific or Act III.

 

That said, we don't know what Act III is and, to your point, maybe it will work sonically and visually in the realm of CC (Country and Rock are quite aligned aesthetically). But merging it together when Rennie got its own standalone tour would slightly undermine it IMO and establish Rennie tour and era overal as supreme. Which, even though it likely is, doesn't serve to "sell" the current era and upcoming one with the sheen and shine deserved.

 

TBH, I know I'm being pedantic because it's "Beyonce". We're all going even if it's a b-sides tour lol.

I like your perspective! I hadn't really thought about it like that. I did wonder about the tour rumours having some validity given the timing of the magazine spread and sir Davis promo - however with Bey, I'm always "I'll believe it when I see it" 😂

 

As I mentioned earlier, I think Australia will miss out again (and probably will for as long as she has kids in school🥲). However a European/UK/North American tour during summer 2025 doesn't seem too far fetched. 

Edited September 11 by BeyBronts

[cuteboyzay]

16 hours ago, Kingdom said:

No shade but this makes no sense, promotion is not why beyonce was not nominated at the cmas. Not even the album, the song itself. THM is bigger than 90% of the songs nominated. You forget beyonce called out the CMAS publicly, she was never expecting any nominations, she made a point that she could smash with a country song and she did just that. In the process she gave Shaboozey the biggest shine of his career. She accomplished exactly what she set out to do.

Yes she did call them out, and she accomplished what she set out to do. But others are confused as to her not being nominated. Some think she made CC partially to "take country back" and "sweep" the country genre/CMAs. To prove why black voices aren't given their shine in country.

 

My reasonings were directed to the fans that are shocked about her not sweeping the genre and being nommed. Of course promo doesn't matter too much, but there's BARELY any uproar about her lack of nominations after she literally just made the most acclaimed/one of the best selling "country albums" of the year.

 

Her point could've actually had a bigger impact if she cared more about this albums promo and not her business side ventures. Basically what I'm saying is that her actions do not translate to how much she keeps emphasizing how "important" this album is. If she did, there would be a lot more controversy behind it and even more reasons to LISTEN to black voices in the country genre.

 

All I'm saying is no one should be confused by her lack of nominations/recognition when her effort has been more towards her haircare products and not the album.

Edited September 11 by cuteboyzay