I hope she does music like 4. I fear there will never be another era with visuals, vocals and true realness to her fans as it

1 hour ago, LegaMyth said:

This is how I see Bey's discography.

 

Act I: The Breakout Star

-Dangerously In Love

-B'Day

-I Am... Sasha Fierce 

 

Act II: Becoming The Artist

-4

-Beyoncé

-Lemonade 

 

Act III: Doing What She Wants

-Renaissance

-Cowboy Carter

- Act III

 

Act 4: The Finale

-Final Studio Album

Lol. You think she should or would stop her recording career two albums from now? 

She obviously loves music and making albums. 

CC is a country album with only one single. Post-album singles are hard to get for pure pop albums, let alone albums like CC. She should just take a lil' break and come back with ACT III or do a tour for CC and then comeback with ACT III. At least CC produced her biggest hit outside of the US since Telephone with Gaga. That's a big accomplishment and this era is a success no matter what haters say. 

4 hours ago, jane said:

CC is not good enough? This album has more potential hits than Renaissance could ever dream of.  I suspect it will age better too. 

Visiting and saw the tea has spilled.
 

Her best album since BEYONCÉ I fear.

4 hours ago, jane said:

CC is not good enough? This album has more potential hits than Renaissance could ever dream of.  I suspect it will age better too. 

What are those hits, if I may ask? I can only see Bodyguard being a big moment a la Cuff It. Everything else is too different and/or slow paced compared to the current musical landscape. Maybe Levii's Jeans for how mundane it is but I also feel like that'd be a slow burner. 

 

Renaissance had definitely more hits on it. Besides the two it already got, I'm fairly convinced AS would've been huge if pushed properly to coincide with the album release and then Heated for the summer when it started gaining traction from the tour. 
 

Idk about aging better either, the general consensus already seems to be that Renaissance is better. We'll see how the year's end lists fare but honestly it's not looking very promising. 

1 hour ago, AxelFox said:

Renaissance had definitely more hits on it. Besides the two it already got, I'm fairly convinced AS would've been huge if pushed properly to coincide with the album release and then Heated for the summer when it started gaining traction from the tour. 

AS charted for just one week less than IIMW while only the latter was actually released as a single (contrary to other posts - it got a unique visualizer, individual single on AM even after the album drop, and a month-late radio push), so you made some points 

 

she hamstrings herself to fulfill her little flop indie fantasy and it got old a decade ago

4 hours ago, Williamprb said:

I hope she does music like 4. I fear there will never be another era with visuals, vocals and true realness to her fans as it

4 is truly that girl... We were fed with performances, documentaries (year of 4 is probably my favorite documentary from her), plenty of videos, quality music, and a FUN ENGAGING ERA for the fans. 

 

Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse.

1) she just toured rather expensively

2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 

3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 

4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT

 

I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck.

 

this tour announcement hive has been theorizing about feels like a crock of bullsh*t waiting to burst open on the stove but hey! 

9 hours ago, jane said:

Relax. When she tours the album, streams will go up again and if they ever have a visual, some people will hear the songs again with new hear. I still think Beyoncé has a bigger plan to release visuals once all three albums are out. Beyoncé is creating her eras for the long run. Not what's hot for a few months. Renaissance today is more remembered than most of the albums that won awards in 2022. Like she once said, she makes albums and her discography will remain rich and multi dimensional. 

Long run? And then u realize Cuff It and Break My Soul also all died and Rennie is already doing less than 1.5 Mio streams per day (the entire project). 

 

I love ur optimism, but no

 

7 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse.

1) she just toured rather expensively

2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 

3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 

4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT

 

I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck.

 

Are you seriously a beyonce fan? posts like this are so fu***** weird. LIke what is wrong with you?

Beyoncé is slowing down. Album + Tour and a possible Grammy appearance is the best we gonna get from ms thang! She's done with being "the female version of a hustler"
 

Other than that, we got to enjoy her insta creativity and an incredible body of work from time to time. I'm less stressed expecting beautiful quality music and nothing else. 
 

8 hours ago, BeyBronts said:

Throwing this out there- possibly, there could be something serious going on in her personal life? I mean, we know she had serious issues with her knee and we assume that had an impact on the filming/release of the visuals. As many of you have mentioned, these eras seem rushed/messy, despite being some of her best music artisically. I respect her wish for privacy, and so far, I've just been happy with just enjoying the content as it comes. However, something about this era seems really off, even more so than the REN era. 

I don't want to hear any conspiracy theories but I do think one of her children, likely Sir, might have something going on:

 

Quote

 

So many roses but none to be picked without thorns
So be fond of your flaws, dear

...

I just hope you love yourself like that

And I really hope the best for you
You're my love, my sweetie pie
My baby, you're my heart

 

10 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse.

1) she just toured rather expensively

2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 

3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 

4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT

 

I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck.

 

If she's touring places she did not tour with Renaissance as well she'll be fine. The demand is there.

But if she insists in the same old USA-Canada-Some of Europe I hope she's flops harder than the This Is Me... Now tour.

I'm curious now if they would've pushed renaissance as long as they did had cuff it not materialized, and would we have gotten CC sooner? 

4 hours ago, Kingdom said:

Are you seriously a beyonce fan? posts like this are so fu***** weird. LIke what is wrong with you?

I'm seriously a lifelong Beyoncé fan with myriad opinions some of which are not 100% positive 100% of the time. So no, probably not a fan according to you  

59 minutes ago, Mitsouko said:

I'm seriously a lifelong Beyoncé fan with myriad opinions some of which are not 100% positive 100% of the time. So no, probably not a fan according to you  

for someone who loves to call everyone else slow, they sure did miss out on you being a longtime contributor to the thread and your multiple times seeing her (including transatlantic trips lmao). even in places they wouldn't be able to see, you praise her when it's deserved + she's come up in our verbal conversations before.  

 

but no, we cant call ourselves fans if we're not 150% positive about her every single career decision 

 

let me go do a cécred enema to repent since I have critiques on how she's handling this album

 

 

II LEAST WANTED is doing fewer daily streams than certain second singles from 2020 btw

 

if we wanna put this era's mismanagement into perspective 

 

13 hours ago, Mitsouko said:

Selling this tour's gonna be a struggle tbh. Like OTRII or worse.

1) she just toured rather expensively

2) mid ass album unlike Renaissance 

3) flop ass album unlike Renaissance 

4) no "rising-from-the-dead" hype which she had before RWT

 

I wish her 0.25 fl oz of luck.

This is true tbh. I don't see how she could repeat the RWT strategy when it clearly wouldn't work. I think the smartest move would be to start the tour in places where she hasn't been for a decade and let the hype build before putting US and Europe up for sale. 

when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams!

 

3 minutes ago, QueenB said:

when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams!

 

At this rate either Nadia will have to leak them herself or they're gonna be relegated to something like Tubi just to maximize exposure to recoup the costs

 

 

1 minute ago, QueenB said:

when the three part clown act is over and she releases the visuals on a irrelevant streaming platform (my guesses are paramount+... maybe even Shudder!) and only the diehard fans watch since nothing is posted to youtube and is immediately forgotten by the public with NO boosts to streams!

 

That's probably the happiest scenario that can realistically happen to us, that we will at least get a chance to see them in the first place  

at this point the best method for them to be released would be them leaking... The press would be all over posting about it and would actually garner interest in the project (and maybe see some success on streaming) as opposed to waiting until Jay Z launches a new streaming platform but for music videos

The forums are so predictable. No big single push = CC is a flop panned album that nobody likes and the material is horrendous. Yet if she had pushed a second single (Bodyguard) and had success everyone would say it's better than Renaissance 

 

 

2 hours ago, Anvarie said:

The forums are so predictable. No big single push = CC is a flop panned album that nobody likes and the material is horrendous. Yet if she had pushed a second single (Bodyguard) and had success everyone would say it's better than Renaissance 

 

 

This fanbase has become toxic and abusive to Beyoncé a long time ago. It's one reason Bey is protecting her peace and ignoring us for the most part, let's be honest here. This non stop need for her to feed them something and when she doesn't, they trash her and her ability to do everything. They refuse to understand that Beyonce is NOT a new artist and doesn't need to do a damn thing to promote her music at this point other than touring. What is going on in her personal life has nothing to do with her work and it's disrespectful to speculate. Talking about her kids or her husband will only make her hide some more and do even less. If that's your plan to bully her and put pressure. Good luck.