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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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3 hours ago, alien superstore said:

We know Bey and Parkwood are definitely up to something. She has been quite quiet for a while now. She was busy with the tour until October and focused a lot of time editing and directing the Renaissance Tour Film up until December (something we can be sure about given the confusion when it was first uploaded to cinema sites--remember the varied runtimes, the Odeon website saying Nadia Lee Cohen was directing, etc etc). Then she was working on the Cowboy Carter first week rollout, which we know had a lot of up-to-the-deadline changes thanks to the botched BEYINCE vinyl's disparity with the official streaming version of the record. Since then, she's spent time in Japan for...some reason (we still don't actually know why she was there, and we all know it wasn't simply so she could charitably sign some vinyls there), and we've seen a bunch of Cowboy Carter visuals in the form of the lyric videos which confirm they're a) tied to the Renaissance film (check the Amen video for the literal backdrop of the ITG Teaser) and has confirmation from Nadia Lee Cohen that they're "coming soon". 

 

Obviously we all want stuff sooner and quicker, but if Bey changed the title and concept for Cowboy at the last minute, it means her visuals are also out of date. I don't want a visual album that includes a video for Blackbiird that doesn't star the featured girls, and I don't want a visual project anytime soon that includes Levii's Jeans but excludes God YA. 

 

It's very obvious that this entire trilogy has not gone according to plan behind the scenes, given the lack of Rennie visuals, the ITG Teaser leading to nothing, the knee injury and the last minute u-turn of a Cuff It Grammy Performance (which an insider on the Pop Pantheon podcast alluded to). That being said, I am quite frustrated at how this era is panning out. She has claimed it's her best music (and I do believe American Requiiem, Protector, Texas, Ya Ya, 16 and Tyrant are all career highlights), but she isn't pushing it. Even her current single II Most Wanted has had...zero push beyond a cover art reveal that would look more at home on Microsoft Paint than on streaming services. 

 

It's confusing, but we know there's more to come. My suspicion is that she's either gearing up for a residency or a tour of the continents she didn't get to visit with the Renaissance project (Asia, South America, and Oceania), and letting herself vibe off the fumes of the success of Texas Hold Em (which, like it or not, was an Irreplaceable level hit in terms of cultural saturation). 

 

I do wonder if this is all part of her plan to nab AOTY. Cowboy Carter came out quite early in the eligibility period. Releasing an insane visual project for the album and/or performing it on tour during the winter months would give the album a significant second wind come Grammy season. And before you claim she doesn't care about the Grammy's...she obviously does. You might not like it, but she turns up every year and gratefully accepts each gold trophy they continue to give her. 

 

Regardless, I see Billie winning AOTY (an easy way to not reward Bey, while also not continuing to fawn over Taylor) and Bey winning SOTY for Texas, which wouldn't be a horrid outcome I guess :/ 

 

Anyway, sorry this was long, I'm new so thought I'd dive right in

Tbh, I see Beyoncé winning AOTY for some reason. Idk why, but industry wise. Huge artists have come forth and said themselves Beyonce caused a major shift, up to the point where their 

labels are now asking for Country records. The impact of Cowboy Carter is VERY undeniable at this point. But I think it's impact is even bigger than even us as fans can see to the visible eye, because she literally shifted the politics of the industry (again) ever since she dropped Cowboy Carter.  :deadbanana2:

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1 hour ago, Chris said:

What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles?

 

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JUST FOR DUD, II MOST UNWANTED, and POSTY'S RAGS are an unholy trinity, and having them all in a row on the album is one of the lowest points in her discography to me.

i won't be too harsh on her though because we immediately get FLAMENCO as a nice palate cleanser before that godly finish with YALLAH YALLAH through AMEN :jonnycat:

 

1 hour ago, alien superstore said:

Consider the connection between Renaissance's 'Mind Control' KNTY News tour segment (playing on FOX News' aesthetic and ability to brainwash people into their echochambers) and Cowboy Carter's KNTRY Radio Texas with it's 10,000 watts of healing power (and the CGI radio waves that shoot out of the radio station during the Texas lyric video). It seems clear to me that Act III's visuals might focus more on the grungey newspaper aesthetic (the Delresto album art is clearly a still from the Echoville visual project imho, and the allusion to Betty Black confirms to me its placement in Act III), meaning ACT I is TV, ACT II is Radio and ACT III is the printed press. Put it all together and you have a visual project, Echoville, which considers the way in which the media has shaped our understanding of genre, and of the way the media has erased the Black roots of modern popular genres. 

oh you ate with this :clap3:

1 hour ago, Chris said:

What everyone's least favorite song(s) from Cowboy Giselle Knowles?

 

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texas hold em lol

btw Tinashe is outstreaming most of CC, if that puts things into perspective 

 

:suburban:

Honestly, I skip

 

16 Carriages

Willie Interlude

Texas Hold 'Em

Dolly Interlude

Spaghetti

Willy Again

Oh Louisiana

 

 

Daughter immediately into Alligator is perfect IMO

1 minute ago, cloudbusting said:

btw Tinashe is outstreaming most of CC, if that puts things into perspective 

 

:suburban:

She may actually have a hit brewing, her song is seemingly going viral on TikTok

Country Cosplay is kinda her biggest grower of an album. It's hard to listen to the whole thing at once cause it's too damn long but I think I'd put it 3rd now. 

 

Renaissance

Beyonce

Cowboy Carter

B'Day
Lemonade

4

Sasha
Dangerously

 

I never cared for Tyrant tho. 

 

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Just now, Lose My Breath said:

She may actually have a hit brewing, her song is seemingly going viral on TikTok

oh she's one of my other faves and i'm rooting for her and Nasty! it's just not something i've been able to say before + i felt like being a lil messy

 

:suburban:

The Tyrant slander in here.

 

Some of you are not seeing heaven and are fat.

 

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The winner is:

Beyonce Knowles, female pop vocalist.

 

"I would like to thank the judges for picking me

My parents who I love,

I love you Houston"

 

 

 

 

 

31 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

No been country update for a bit 

That's a shame

 

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4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

Honestly, I skip

16 Carriages

how dare u skip this gem but comfortably stream Just For Fans?

 

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35 minutes ago, Devin said:

how dare u skip this gem but comfortably stream Just For Fans?

 

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Not Just for Fans:bibliahh::bibliahh::bibliahh:

8 hours ago, nooniebao said:

You think she's headlining?

I can only hope. They are being really "you better get our tickets" about it all. Could be anyone, but the extraness is on-brand for a Bey announcement and would make sense in terms of the timeframe of the show and her current absence. 

10 hours ago, alien superstore said:

Oh and also... Echoville is obviously still on the table. Whatever that ends up being. 

 

She's trademarked Echoville just a few months ago under the following categories;

  • "Glasses; sunglasses; cases for sunglasses; cases for mobile phones" (sounds like Website Merch)
  • "Clocks; Watches; Jewelry; Keychains; Lapel pins and ornamental pin" (Keychains and Pins are typical Bey Merch)
  • "Photographs; Stationery; Stickers; Posters; Event programs; Notepads; Blank journals; Collectible trading cards; Collectible printed trading cards; Comic books; Pen and pencil cases" (Posters are typical Bey Merch)
  • "Bags, namely, tote bags, beach bags, handbags, diaper bags, baby carriers worn on the body, pouch baby carriers, luggage; small leather goods, namely, leather cases, leather bags and wallets, leather purses, leather billfolds, leather key chains, leather key" (again, Tote bags and keychains are obvious merch)
  • "Household and kitchen containers; lunch boxes; wash bags; fitted vanity cases; food storage containers; drinks containers; plastic drinks containers (empty); stainless steel drinks containers (empty); sports bottles (empty); hydration packs comprising a fluid reservoir and a delivery tube" (I could see her sending out steel water bottles in PR packages/selling them on her site for Echoville once the project has launched)
  • "Clothing; Headwear; Footwear" (Hats are obvious merch)
  • "Bedding, namely, bed spreads, bed sheets, bed throws, bed linen, bed blankets; linens, namely, table linens, kitchen linens, household linens, bath linens; towels; textile wall hangings; blankets, namely, blanket throws, children's blankets, lap blankets, fleece blankets, blankets for household pets, blankets for outdoor use; comforters; pillow cases; duvets" (we have already seen her release blankets as part of the Renaissance merch collection)
  • "Stuffed and plush toys; Collectible toys; Toy action figures and toy action figure accessories; Playing cards; Action Figures; Board games; Water toys; Radio-controlled toy vehicles and drone toys; Party games; Trading cards for games" (Branded playing cards for Echoville would make sense if Texas Hold Em--a song that riffs on Poker--is included in this visual project).

All being said, she's very obviously cooking something up.

 

Echoville was last officially referenced by Parkwood with the Cecred haircare tiktok, and previously before that on the tour in the visuals.

 

Consider the connection between Renaissance's 'Mind Control' KNTY News tour segment (playing on FOX News' aesthetic and ability to brainwash people into their echochambers) and Cowboy Carter's KNTRY Radio Texas with it's 10,000 watts of healing power (and the CGI radio waves that shoot out of the radio station during the Texas lyric video). It seems clear to me that Act III's visuals might focus more on the grungey newspaper aesthetic (the Delresto album art is clearly a still from the Echoville visual project imho, and the allusion to Betty Black confirms to me its placement in Act III), meaning ACT I is TV, ACT II is Radio and ACT III is the printed press. Put it all together and you have a visual project, Echoville, which considers the way in which the media has shaped our understanding of genre, and of the way the media has erased the Black roots of modern popular genres. 

You nailed it :clap3:

1 hour ago, Pepo said:

You nailed it :clap3:

I hope so because at this point I'm also trying to convince myself

 

:gayoncecat3:

10 hours ago, Lose My Breath said:

She may actually have a hit brewing, her song is seemingly going viral on TikTok

Bouncin' deserved </3

11 hours ago, Cbreezy said:

From one essay-writing girl to another lol, I appreciate your insights and optimism. 

 

I'm 100% with you on the fact that the silence is indicative of... something. 

 

I'll problematically take it a step further and say Bey slimming down come album release window is characteristic of readying a live something. It wasn't for IG pics and a quick lil appearance at iHeart. 

 

She is for sure miscalculating how to keep people invested, but I just don't buy that she's sitting idle. 

 

We've been "here" before post Rennie release and came to find out she was prepping the tour. I can't "un-remember" that just cus I'm annoyed with the silence/

Essayists unite !! <3Lets Go Ok GIF by Pudgy Penguins

9 hours ago, Devin said:

 

 

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wtf is this gif? her RH confessionals? 

9 hours ago, Devin said:

how dare u skip this gem but comfortably stream Just For Fans?

 

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wtf is that gif:deadbanana2:

 

technology is so weird but at least we're using it to superimpose Beyoncé on Zachary Campbell. that's a unique application

beyoncé getting outstreamed by random khias and basé getting less traffic than the xtina base… she does it on purpose 

 

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7 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

beyoncé getting outstreamed by random khias and basé getting less traffic than the xtina base… she does it on purpose 

 

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