CécredSpaces Posted May 9 Posted May 9 Now if she does that alien thingy, she's going to be called the copycat. She really should have released all of them.
Draper. Posted May 9 Posted May 9 42 minutes ago, CécredSpaces said: Now if she does that alien thingy, she's going to be called the copycat. She really should have released all of them. ?????? She already got abducted from bed during Alien Superstar in the RWT. 1 1
Brikenbur Posted May 10 Posted May 10 "RENAISSANCE WORLD TOUR: A Live Album by Beyoncé drops tonight at midnight" manifesting
Brikenbur Posted May 10 Posted May 10 4 hours ago, Lose My Breath said: II HANDS 29.9K TikTok Videos https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTL4qgU9N/
yonsé Posted May 10 Posted May 10 4 hours ago, CécredSpaces said: Now if she does that alien thingy, she's going to be called the copycat. She really should have released all of them. no one is going to think that when she has a song called ALIEN SUPERSTAR
period sis Posted May 10 Posted May 10 6 hours ago, Lose My Breath said: II HANDS 29.9K TikTok Videos it still does less streams than sweet honey buckin though
Bender34 Posted May 10 Posted May 10 (edited) 12 hours ago, king_queen said: Until the concert tickets stop selling, this is what we're gonna get. The sooner y'all realize this, the happier you'll be. I hope she starts flopping and them ticket prices flop right on down with her. Edited May 10 by Bender34
king_queen Posted May 10 Posted May 10 33 minutes ago, Bender34 said: I hope she starts flopping and them ticket prices flop right on down with her. I'm right there with ya. Imma be at the Cowboy Carter World Tour though
Mr.X Posted May 10 Posted May 10 6 hours ago, Bender34 said: I hope she starts flopping and them ticket prices flop right on down with her.
ScorpiosGroove Posted May 10 Posted May 10 7 minutes ago, YR. said: The Spotify numbers are ridiculously bad already out of the top 10 female daily streams and she's about to do less streams than during ren, despite a new release (which is twice as long) this will do lemonade's streams by the end of summer
Kristie Kuwa Posted May 10 Posted May 10 1 hour ago, YR. said: The Spotify numbers are ridiculously bad I stopped streaming Bey. I find Dua more interesting atm, Aris songs age better, I like Espresso a lot, im looking forward to AOTY by Billie Eilish, im enjoying Eurovision a bit + NewJeans are coming back soon. She got the 3 weeks of attention that she wanted from me. Now she gets 0. Tired of supporting this hag 5
Mitsouko Posted May 10 Posted May 10 10 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: I find Dua more interesting atm, Aris songs age better now now 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, Mitsouko said: now now Seeing the daily streams, im not in a minority here. 1
AxelFox Posted May 10 Posted May 10 I mean this was expected given how she handled the release. Or how she didn't lol. As great as the music is, a country release from a woman in her 40s who has predominantly released RnB/urban music throughout her career needed a bigger sell/push than just put it out there and disappear afterwards. (oh wait, they put posters up and had a cowboy carter truck out and about ) It is what it is.
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 On 5/7/2024 at 11:57 PM, Cbreezy said: Very fair take. I find myself torn between the factually "unfair" angle of her constantly being passed over for certain accolades (e.g. at the Grammys, which pretends to be a meritocracy while showcasing very racially problematic behavior) and your very justified articulation of how she doesn't play the game and thus doesn't win what she could and should. She's been in the game long enough to know that music is but a fraction of the music industry and she knows way more than we ever could about what's needed to make these award wins happen. At the same time, when they keep making her "most nominated" and even "most awarded" only to keep snubbing her for the major honor/s, it's easy to see the frustration. It's all rather sticky because I'd bet that a big part of why she doesn't "campaign" her albums in the traditional sense anymore is the pivot she's taken over the last decade or so of being this renegade, artsy, socially reflective and almost political artist. In slight fairness to her, the optics of her "campaigning" a Lemonade (with its political, racial lean), Rennie (with its LGBTQ lean), or even CC (with its genre shift that she's angling to position as authentic rather than dress up) wouldn't be...good. Still, that doesn't inform whether or not she performs, drops visuals, or finds savvy ways of "campaigning" on her own terms. So there's a definite truth IMO of her shooting herself in her own foot. Look, you have to understand that Grammy voters are not gonna give all the highest accolades to someone like Beyonce. Pundits, media and her massive PR might be pushing Beyonce as the frontrunner but at the end of the day it's the musicians who vote and they won't give AOTY to someone who isn't really "one of them". Beyonce and her aproach to making an album is a major turn off. Fot example, a vote for Billie and Taylor is a vote for all the young female musicians who are passionate about making music and are constantly writing new songs. Voting for Beyonce is just not as exciting cuz you're basically giving her the ultimate honor for something that would never exist without a massive army of seasoned musicians making the majority of the album. For example Fearless is a what it is cuz of Taylor and her talent and skills. You can't say that for Beyonce and her music. Yeah, Beyonce is a massive superstar and a celebrity to celebrities but the musicians aka voters just don't buy the hype and the whole "artistic genius" PR and media narrative that is being pushed each time she realeses a new album. Grammy voters still have their principles. That shows that they value the artist's integrity and passion about the craft. They can't be influenced by the outside agendas. And this is how it should be, Grammy voters are the actual musicians with years of experiences and know way more about the industry and about the artists that we do so I find it really funny when people throw tantrums cuz someone like Beyonce didn't win AOTY. So many black artists won in The GF, Stevie Wonder won 3 AOTYs in 4 or 5 years. It's obvious that they just don't feel like Beyonce is worthy of such an honor. she was pushed as the frontrunner three times already and yet they never went along with the media narrative and buzz. I think that they just don't think shes worthy to be honored to such an extent 2 3
Pinkbutterflies Posted May 10 Posted May 10 4 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: Look, you have to understand that Grammy voters are not gonna give all the highest accolades to someone like Beyonce. Pundits, media and her massive PR might be pushing Beyonce as the frontrunner but at the end of the day it's the musicians who vote and they won't give AOTY to someone who isn't really "one of them". Beyonce and her aproach to making an album is a major turn off. Fot example, a vote for Billie and Taylor is a vote for all the young female musicians who are passionate about making music and are constantly writing new songs. Voting for Beyonce is just not as exciting cuz you're basically giving her the ultimate honor for something that would never exist without a massive army of seasoned musicians making the majority of the album. For example Fearless is a what it is cuz of Taylor and her talent and skills. You can't say that for Beyonce and her music. Yeah, Beyonce is a massive superstar and a celebrity to celebrities but the musicians aka voters just don't buy the hype and the whole "artistic genius" PR and media narrative that is being pushed each time she realeses a new album. Grammy voters still have their principles. That shows that they value the artist's integrity and passion about the craft. They can't be influenced by the outside agendas. And this is how it should be, Grammy voters are the actual musicians with years of experiences and know way more about the industry and about the artists that we do so I find it really funny when people throw tantrums cuz someone like Beyonce didn't win AOTY. So many black artists won in The GF, Stevie Wonder won 3 AOTYs in 4 or 5 years. It's obvious that they just don't feel like Beyonce is worthy of such an honor. she was pushed as the frontrunner three times already and yet they never went along with the media narrative and buzz. I think that they just don't think shes worthy to be honored to such an extent Love Beyonce, but could not have said it better. 1 1
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 5 minutes ago, Pinkbutterflies said: Love Beyonce, but could not have said it better. I was scared of the response, I think that Beyonce is the greatest living entertainer and performer and she has a killer vocals. But she's really not that creative genius or whatever her fans think she is. It's so weird cuz she is so good but not at making music but rather performing it. But Grammys are all about the craft and the talent pf creating and writing songs and albums and we all know Beyonce hires like an insane amount of songwriters and then just overlooks the whole process 1 2
Triton Posted May 10 Posted May 10 So Beyonce just has to do an album full of 4 note basic melodies to win? That's talent, craft, skill, integrity and passion? Some tell her to release an album of the lullabies she sings her kids, maybe that's how she'll win AOTY. 2
QueenBeyoncé Posted May 10 Posted May 10 8 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: I was scared of the response, I think that Beyonce is the greatest living entertainer and performer and she has a killer vocals. But she's really not that creative genius or whatever her fans think she is. It's so weird cuz she is so good but not at making music but rather performing it. But Grammys are all about the craft and the talent pf creating and writing songs and albums and we all know Beyonce hires like an insane amount of songwriters and then just overlooks the whole process Shut your punk ass up! Are you in the studio with Beyoncé? No. Everyone she has worked with has stated what she does and creative she is as a writing & a producer 6
DR0GO Posted May 10 Posted May 10 32 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: Look, you have to understand that Grammy voters are not gonna give all the highest accolades to someone like Beyonce. Pundits, media and her massive PR might be pushing Beyonce as the frontrunner but at the end of the day it's the musicians who vote and they won't give AOTY to someone who isn't really "one of them". Beyonce and her aproach to making an album is a major turn off. Fot example, a vote for Billie and Taylor is a vote for all the young female musicians who are passionate about making music and are constantly writing new songs. Voting for Beyonce is just not as exciting cuz you're basically giving her the ultimate honor for something that would never exist without a massive army of seasoned musicians making the majority of the album. For example Fearless is a what it is cuz of Taylor and her talent and skills. You can't say that for Beyonce and her music. Yeah, Beyonce is a massive superstar and a celebrity to celebrities but the musicians aka voters just don't buy the hype and the whole "artistic genius" PR and media narrative that is being pushed each time she realeses a new album. Grammy voters still have their principles. That shows that they value the artist's integrity and passion about the craft. They can't be influenced by the outside agendas. And this is how it should be, Grammy voters are the actual musicians with years of experiences and know way more about the industry and about the artists that we do so I find it really funny when people throw tantrums cuz someone like Beyonce didn't win AOTY. So many black artists won in The GF, Stevie Wonder won 3 AOTYs in 4 or 5 years. It's obvious that they just don't feel like Beyonce is worthy of such an honor. she was pushed as the frontrunner three times already and yet they never went along with the media narrative and buzz. I think that they just don't think shes worthy to be honored to such an extent 1
Lose My Breath Posted May 10 Posted May 10 34 minutes ago, Pop Fan said: Look, you have to understand that Grammy voters are not gonna give all the highest accolades to someone like Beyonce. Pundits, media and her massive PR might be pushing Beyonce as the frontrunner but at the end of the day it's the musicians who vote and they won't give AOTY to someone who isn't really "one of them". Beyonce and her aproach to making an album is a major turn off. Fot example, a vote for Billie and Taylor is a vote for all the young female musicians who are passionate about making music and are constantly writing new songs. Voting for Beyonce is just not as exciting cuz you're basically giving her the ultimate honor for something that would never exist without a massive army of seasoned musicians making the majority of the album. For example Fearless is a what it is cuz of Taylor and her talent and skills. You can't say that for Beyonce and her music. Yeah, Beyonce is a massive superstar and a celebrity to celebrities but the musicians aka voters just don't buy the hype and the whole "artistic genius" PR and media narrative that is being pushed each time she realeses a new album. Grammy voters still have their principles. That shows that they value the artist's integrity and passion about the craft. They can't be influenced by the outside agendas. And this is how it should be, Grammy voters are the actual musicians with years of experiences and know way more about the industry and about the artists that we do so I find it really funny when people throw tantrums cuz someone like Beyonce didn't win AOTY. So many black artists won in The GF, Stevie Wonder won 3 AOTYs in 4 or 5 years. It's obvious that they just don't feel like Beyonce is worthy of such an honor. she was pushed as the frontrunner three times already and yet they never went along with the media narrative and buzz. I think that they just don't think shes worthy to be honored to such an extent This is absolute garbage, and exactly what is wrong with music now 4
Pop Fan Posted May 10 Posted May 10 Why do you think that they never gave her AOTY. We have been through this 3 times already (2015, 2017 and 2022). Beyonce is always a supposed frontrunner and predicted to win and gets is push by the pundits and media as the clear frontrunner and an obvious pick. Don't you think that it's kinda telling how they always find an alternative and dont buy the massive hype around her every time she releases a new album. Her PR is flawless but it's kinda overdone cuz she really wants us to believe she's this unreachable creative visionary when it couldn't be further from the truth. Voters are not stupid, they know the reality about her "artistry" and how overhyped she is by the media. It's obvious at this point that the musicians and others working in the industry don't feel the same way as Twitter and pundits. There has been many instances where we've seen subtle shade and ridicule about her having 20+ songwriters on a song, Diane Warren, who is a songwriting legend and wrote "I Was Here" was literally ridiculing her on Twitter for having 24 songwriters on one song. Do you really believe any songwriter with a little bit of self-respect would vote for Beyonce in AOTY 😂. People've been saying for years that she's not really seen in a positive light especially among songwriters and musicians and artists who are actually writing their material. I don't think country voters will be voting for Cowboy Carter, you just need to realize the truth and stop whining about her not winning and playing the race card cuz it's kinda cringe at this point, you're not gonna change the way some voters see her. Twitter and pundits are just internet bubbles that can be heavily manipulated and regulated and everybody knows Beyonce is the queen of PR and wants to present herself as some kind of a visionary that is obviously not really the truth. That's why she will be again deemed a frontrunner before the ceremony and she will probably lose against someone that has earned more respect among the voters. She is really popular with the celebs but musician see through the facade and the PR which is honestly just too much for somene who we all know is mostly just recording the demos or combining songs and things like that. She is very limited as a songwriter. Come on now, 24 songwriter on 1 song is a disgrace and an album like that should never win AOTY. That would be such a slap on the face to artists who are the creative forces behind their albums 2
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