Space&Time Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 24 minutes ago, sillycilla said: Speaking of calling the shots. The way she and Parkwood handle singles and longevity is atrocious. Is part of why AOTY stays out of reach. Outside of the first week they don't do anything else until a month before the Grammys. Help me. What does it mean to say "Promo has ended"? Don't the stations keep playing the song if they choose. This sounds like "Columbia stop cutting checks to country radio" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space&Time Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Burn said: album ranking time again methinks Let me go stan Tyla instead. Doesn't NorAlbum have a cute R and B single dropping. I liked her Rocket album cover. Edited April 21 by Space&Time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draper. Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 33 minutes ago, sillycilla said: Speaking of calling the shots. The way she and Parkwood handle singles and longevity is atrocious. Is part of why AOTY stays out of reach. Outside of the first week they don't do anything else until a month before the Grammys. She released a Deluxe version of Self Titled during "Grammy promotion" period. She spread performances throughout the months between the Lemonade release and the Grammys performing every song of the album. Neither Beck or Adele did anything to promote their albums towards the Grammys. Let's not put the blame on her because we know that's not what happened. Edited April 21 by Draper. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyHurts Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Is II Most Wanted even an official single that's being pushed? I stopped paying attention 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillycilla Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Draper. said: She released a Deluxe version of Self Titled during "Grammy promotion" period. She spread performances throughout the months between the Lemonade release and the Grammys performing every song of the album. Neither Beck or Adele did anything to promote their albums towards the Grammys. Let's not put the blame on her because we know that's not what happened. We know Beyoncé or black artists for that matter is not going to win AOTY by not promoting. Let's be forreal. Everything has to align, sales, longevity, singles, etc. Edited April 21 by sillycilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CécredSpaces Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 19 minutes ago, Space&Time said: Help me. What does it mean to say "Promo has ended"? Don't the stations keep playing the song if they choose. This sounds like "Columbia stop cutting checks to country radio" It will still be played if the demand is there or if requested but will naturally be replaced by other singles as more get sent to the stations. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space&Time Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I'm with the idea that Beyoncé is ready to finish up the Acts and drop the visuals and go on tour. I like the November release date, after Grammy submission period. But then again, why not just wait to release ACT III during February 2025. It will be black history Month, the Holidays will be out the way, and she can announce the tour dates for the summer right after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpiosGroove Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 this is the face of a woman who knows she's not working for the rest of the year 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Space&Time Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I also don't understand the Most Wanted slander. Ballad or not it's a GREAT song and performance by the two and honestly if Parkwood/Columbia was doing what it was supposed to do would definitely be a top 5 hot 100 hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tachiwaka Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 21 hours ago, ScorpiosGroove said: honestly the album should've been called American Requiem. the song perfectly encapsulates the entire album and its theme and i love the title. i also want her to finally have an actual title track again 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScorpiosGroove Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, tachiwaka said: tbf requiem is easier to spell for the grammatically limited than renaissance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CécredSpaces Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 34 minutes ago, Space&Time said: I'm with the idea that Beyoncé is ready to finish up the Acts and drop the visuals and go on tour. I like the November release date, after Grammy submission period. But then again, why not just wait to release ACT III during February 2025. It will be black history Month, the Holidays will be out the way, and she can announce the tour dates for the summer right after. I have this feeling as well. Considering how much she records (and these songs were recorded over the pandemic), I'm sure she has songs for her 10th, 11th and maybe even 12th albums ready but feels constricted about her three-act promise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CécredSpaces Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 13 minutes ago, tachiwaka said: She did it once. And even then, it's not really a title track considering the official title is "Dangerously in Love 2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristie Kuwa Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 I just know they think they are eating their promo game because they add random CC song bits to her insta pics nnnn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 It would be cool if Bey is featured on Shaboozey's upcoming album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Machete Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, sillycilla said: The way she and Parkwood handle singles and longevity is atrocious. Is part of why AOTY stays out of reach. Sorry, but no. That's not the reason. The reason is because she's a black artist making music that isn't cookie cutter. This is why I hate how the AOTY discussion is framed only around Bey. It completely erases the clear overall issue. - "Bey doesn't win AOTY because she doesn't have singles with longevity" -> SZA literally just lost AOTY with an album that has two SMASH future Diamond singles, which is more than what the winner had. - "Bey doesn't win AOTY because she samples too much and doesn't self-write" -> H.E.R. doesn't, Alicia Keys didn't, SZA hardly does. Bey could do everything right this era, multiple #1 songs, crazy longevity, campaigning, etc. But she would still lose because she is a black woman (actually black person the same still applies to men like Kendrick & Kanye) making music that makes your average middle-aged soccer mom voter uncomfortable. IASF was the closest she came to AOTY for a reason. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.E.M. Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 2 hours ago, sillycilla said: We know Beyoncé or black artists for that matter is not going to win AOTY by not promoting. Let's be forreal. Everything has to align, sales, longevity, singles, etc. to be fair SZA had all of those things (on top of a compelling narrative and pretty strong Grammy campaign) and they still chose to give AOTY to that lady for a 4th time instead of a Black woman lol the Grammys don't care that a Black woman hasn't won AOTY in almost 30 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristie Kuwa Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 7 minutes ago, Machete said: Sorry, but no. That's not the reason. The reason is because she's a black artist making music that isn't cookie cutter. This is why I hate how the AOTY discussion is framed only around Bey. It completely erases the clear overall issue. - "Bey doesn't win AOTY because she doesn't have singles with longevity" -> SZA literally just lost AOTY with an album that has two SMASH future Diamond singles, which is more than what the winner had. - "Bey doesn't win AOTY because she samples too much and doesn't self-write" -> H.E.R. doesn't, Alicia Keys didn't, SZA hardly does. Bey could do everything right this era, multiple #1 songs, crazy longevity, campaigning, etc. But she would still lose because she is a black woman (actually black person the same still applies to men like Kendrick & Kanye) making music that makes your average middle-aged soccer mom voter uncomfortable. IASF was the closest she came to AOTY for a reason. And THAT is literally all there needs to be said to this topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shelter Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 The way Texas Hold Em is holding up in France is great, it's a hard market too. Spotify yesterday Texas #12 Fortnight #38 -27 We Can't Be Friends #53 One also just came out and had a video 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillycilla Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 26 minutes ago, Machete said: Sorry, but no. That's not the reason. The reason is because she's a black artist making music that isn't cookie cutter. This is why I hate how the AOTY discussion is framed only around Bey. It completely erases the clear overall issue. - "Bey doesn't win AOTY because she doesn't have singles with longevity" -> SZA literally just lost AOTY with an album that has two SMASH future Diamond singles, which is more than what the winner had. - "Bey doesn't win AOTY because she samples too much and doesn't self-write" -> H.E.R. doesn't, Alicia Keys didn't, SZA hardly does. Bey could do everything right this era, multiple #1 songs, crazy longevity, campaigning, etc. But she would still lose because she is a black woman (actually black person the same still applies to men like Kendrick & Kanye) making music that makes your average middle-aged soccer mom voter uncomfortable. IASF was the closest she came to AOTY for a reason. Definitely. But none of them have the impact Beyoncé has. If she had an era like thriller (unlikely) or Miseducation of Lauren Hill where it's an undeniable moment/smash she would win. Taylor won over Sza simply because of her tour/phenomal year not the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satellites.™ Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 hours ago, Space&Time said: Help me. What does it mean to say "Promo has ended"? Don't the stations keep playing the song if they choose. This sounds like "Columbia stop cutting checks to country radio" Thats exactly it though, radio is all money, always has been lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futuresuperstar2023 Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Renaissance could have been Bey biggest peak era with music videos being released 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burn Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 (edited) 9 minutes ago, sillycilla said: Definitely. But none of them have the impact Beyoncé has. If she had an era like thriller (unlikely) or Miseducation of Lauren Hill where it's an undeniable moment/smash she would win. Taylor won over Sza simply because of her tour/phenomal year not the music. Exactly. I remember Mariah once said, and it's always stuck with me, that the Grammys used to be about the actual quality of the music, but they seem to have changed it now where it's about what the 'bigger' or 'more popular' album is. It's not how it should be. We have Billboard charts to measure what the most popular music is. The Grammys shouldn't even consider that. But even stans have now been led into believing that's how it works. On this forum I see people saying "X album had a #1 single and is the best selling album so it should win AOTY". Like no.... that's not how it works. Edited April 21 by Burn 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pheromosa Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 The AOTY discussions are extra tired at this point because its clear people won't vote for her in that category due to spite. Everyone yelling at the committee that Beyonce deserves it just made her naysayers double down 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QueenB Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 3 minutes ago, Burn said: Exactly. I remember Mariah once said, and it's always stuck with me, that the Grammys used to be about the actual quality of the music, but they seem to have changed it now where it's about what the 'bigger' or 'more popular' album is. It's not how it should be. We have Billboard charts to measure what the most popular music is. The Grammys shouldn't even consider that. Mariah not sweeping with Emancipation of Mimi is a crime against art 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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