yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, carameldelight said: Are you new to Beyonce or something? Her eras have been messy since self titled lol. That's definitely not a new perspective in here. We all know bey is about her bag, so of course she uploaded her perfume. Just like instead of pushing a new single she pushed a tiffany's commercial. You are optimistic and I'm not. There isn't much more to it. nothing about self titled or lemonade was messy. just because she wasn't promoting like mathew used to make her, does not make it messy. she pioneered the visual album, changed the national release day, helped launch a streaming service, headlined the super bowl the day after Formation dropped, performed two VMA medleys for both eras. did coachella and two stadium tours. those eras solidified her as a legend...literally nothing messy about it. be mad all you want. but beyonce isn't sloppy. sorry
carameldelight Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, QueenB said: CEO's can attend concerts just because they want to and still say NO to Beyoncé, this "it's clear she's still in talks" is just a theory. the article mentioned screenings were had, reshoots done, and still crickets from studios wanting it. No one wants to pay top dollar for a product from 2022 in the year 2023, if her team is shocked by that fact then that is alarming. If that's not sloppy then I don't know what is They get all in a tizzy when we talk about our theories/opinions but then turn around and project their own theories as if it's facts. 2
kimberly Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, carameldelight said: Did I say anything about trusting me or was I expressing MY opinion? . 2 hours ago, carameldelight said: It's cute people still think act ii is happening. 1 hour ago, carameldelight said: It does appear to be that act ii is the tour and the visuals is act iii.
ScorpiosGroove Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, kimberly said: some of y'all keep asking for her to work like a new artist, Matthew Knowles management style. then get mad when we point out how unreasonable you sound expecting that from thee Beyoncé. especially when she DID do 2 nights of "Club Renaissance" popups last year, free and open to public! she INVENTED the visual album drop. been there, done that. VMA medley? check. two 15-minute ones. I am so excited for Doja's album and am going to her tour, by the way. she's just at a vastly different place than Beyoncé. how is releasing more than a single, a few videos and a performance "work like a new artist Mathew Knowles" style that’s quite literally the bare minimum for an album rollout 1
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, carameldelight said: We all know bey is about her bag, so of course she uploaded her perfume. so does she update her website or not? because before you said she wasn't. hm. 1
carameldelight Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, yonsé said: nothing about self titled or lemonade was messy. just because she wasn't promoting like mathew used to make her, does not make it messy. she pioneered the visual album, changed the national release day, helped launch a streaming service, headlined the super bowl the day after Formation dropped, performed two VMA medleys for both eras. did coachella and two stadium tours. those eras solidified her as a legend...literally nothing messy about it. be mad all you want. but beyonce isn't sloppy. sorry boy bye. I'm not rehashing common knowledge about bey self sabotaging her eras. No one is upset, it's you who can't seem to accept other perspectives.
carameldelight Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, yonsé said: so does she update her website or not? because before you said she wasn't. hm. omg, you got me with photos and perfume. An album is definitely coming now! Edited September 21, 2023 by carameldelight 1
Kristie Kuwa Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, yonsé said: nothing about self titled or lemonade was messy. just because she wasn't promoting like mathew used to make her, does not make it messy. she pioneered the visual album, changed the national release day, helped launch a streaming service, headlined the super bowl the day after Formation dropped, performed two VMA medleys for both eras. did coachella and two stadium tours. those eras solidified her as a legend...literally nothing messy about it. be mad all you want. but beyonce isn't sloppy. sorry She most definitely is and acts on impulses and dreams rather than strategies 1
ScorpiosGroove Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 we can’t compare her to younger girls bc "they are starting out so promo is expected", we also can’t compare her to the older ones bc "she’s not like them" and we also CAN’T compare her to her peers bc y’all will have excuses for that too she already did a vma medley half a decade ago so she doesn’t need to perform anywhere anymore bc she already did that like ? 3 1
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, carameldelight said: boy bye. I'm not rehashing common knowledge about bey self sabotaging her eras. No one is upset, it's you who can't seem to accept other perspectives. this is the issue. because she doesn't promote the album the way y'all WANT her to, its "sabotage". it's literally not. both eras are rememberd and had MAJOR pop culture moments and phrases attached to them. in her eyes, that is a success. she doesn't care about streaming numbers or chart placements. again. stay mad at beyonce. but shes not sloppy. 1
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, carameldelight said: omg, you got me with photos and perfume. An album is definitely coming now! no, just clocking that you can't seem to keep your opinion straight when someone challenges it.
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Kristie Kuwa said: She most definitely is and acts on impulses and dreams rather than strategies this is literally an assumption based on nothing. she has an entire company running things for her. why are y'all acting like she's Normani?
carameldelight Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, yonsé said: no, just clocking that you can't seem to keep your opinion straight when someone challenges it. FWT DVD, text messages, promo, all never happened. but go off sis on your photos.
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 1 minute ago, carameldelight said: FWT DVD, text messages, promo, all never happened. but go off sis on your photos. i definitely got text messages from B. but ok sweetie. 1
swissman Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 43 minutes ago, yonsé said: look i get being mad that she is taking her sweet time with the visuals and not giving us TV performances or appearances. but to assume she's sloppy with her artistry, it's literally not her brand. everything is intentional. y'all are losing it the way I see it is: it's intentional unknown factors have occurred that has changed the plans but either way, to think that she suddenly forgot what she did for decades to great success and simply just doesn't know how to manage herself (as if she WANTS hits and streaming numbers and all that but just doesn't know how to get it) is ridiculous. We already saw this era how when BREAK MY SOUL was inching toward #1, the remix was promptly dropped. If she wants to get some sort of achievement, she'll do something to get it. Until then we will just keep waiting because she's never going to get on IG live and announce that there's behind-the-scenes issues. That's just not Beyoncé. Expecting her to do stuff she simply is not going to do is only willfully letting yourself get upset. 1
kimberly Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, ScorpiosGroove said: how is releasing more than a single, a few videos and a performance "work like a new artist Mathew Knowles" style that’s quite literally the bare minimum for an album rollout that's the bare minimum for a typical pop star. not Beyoncé. Beyoncé has already walked that road. she's paved the way for Doja to be where she is, actually. I still have faith in the visuals. even the appetizer she served with tour visuals looked stunning. otherwise, she's not going to go on MTV's raggedy award show to promote herself. she doesn't need to do that! it's an attend-to-win award show and she's already the most awarded artist. 2 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: we can’t compare her to younger girls bc "they are starting out so promo is expected", we also can’t compare her to the older ones bc "she’s not like them" and we also CAN’T compare her to her peers bc y’all will have excuses for that too she already did a vma medley half a decade ago so she doesn’t need to perform anywhere anymore bc she already did that like ? you are so close to getting it... we want her to be compared to her peers (who are all irrelevant to the GP) if you are going to compare her Spotify streams. like why did we have to read posts comparing her to Doja, Billie Eilish and Olivia Rodrigo today
cloudbusting Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 hours ago, carameldelight said: I did see a tweet that said Houston gets Megan and Travis and New Orleans will most likely get Big Freeda, what does that mean for KC? KC gets the honor of me in the audience 1
carameldelight Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, yonsé said: i definitely got text messages from B. but ok sweetie. june 3 about a flagship store LOL, go awf!!!!
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, carameldelight said: june 3 about a flagship store LOL, go awf!!!! but i thought she wasn't sending them? so you changing your mind again on that happening? that tracks
swissman Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Let's not forget that even her releasing the album cover ahead of the album (a form of promo) was an entire week or so of discussion about if the cover was good enough, if it needed a dance floor on the bottom, if it should have been one of the VOGUE UK shots, if this were different, if that were different. It's tiresome because nothing she does goes without endless critique and inspection and truly no one knows better than Beyoncé how to run her career the way she wants it. If she wanted a disco horse on a solid black background, that's what it's going to be. And at this point it's SUCH an iconic image and every single suggestion to "improve" it was some basic, uninspired idea. I understand having an opinion and not having to like everything she does, but it often feels like people just want to complain and that their vision for Beyoncé is more important than her own. 1 5
carameldelight Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, yonsé said: but i thought she wasn't sending them? so you changing your mind again on that happening? that tracks I think you miss the point, but that's expected. You are talking about routine things, photos and a message from 6 months ago, that has nothing to do with another act or music or album. I didn't know you needed to be that literal. Edited September 21, 2023 by carameldelight
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, swissman said: the way I see it is: it's intentional unknown factors have occurred that has changed the plans but either way, to think that she suddenly forgot what she did for decades to great success and simply just doesn't know how to manage herself (as if she WANTS hits and streaming numbers and all that but just doesn't know how to get it) is ridiculous. We already saw this era how when BREAK MY SOUL was inching toward #1, the remix was promptly dropped. If she wants to get some sort of achievement, she'll do something to get it. Until then we will just keep waiting because she's never going to get on IG live and announce that there's behind-the-scenes issues. That's just not Beyoncé. Expecting her to do stuff she simply is not going to do is only willfully letting yourself get upset. im glad SOMEBODY gets it. this woman has shown us her process into planning her eras for years. through multiple documentaries. but just because it's not the result that they want, all of a sudden she's a sloppy flop who sabotages her works, as though self titled didn't scan a 900K copies in just 3 days. it's wild. like be frustrated all you want. but ppl are just making things up now 1
QueenB Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 If Madonna's old ass in her 60's can figure out tiktok and still does promo for her new projects (performances, interviews, videos, etc) then Beyoncé has no excuse. I don't care how corny Madonna may have been lately, she got up off her death bed and posts behind the scenes looks at her upcoming tour which is more than Beyoncé has done for Renaissance 3
yonsé Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 Just now, carameldelight said: I think you miss the point, but that's expected. You are talking about routine things, photos and a message from 6 months ago, that has nothing to do with another act or music or album. I didn't know you needed to be that literal. well seeing as we're still in act i...i don't know why she would need to be sending out text blasts for a new era when she hadn't even announced the tour for the first act yet. clearly YOU don't understand that we are still in act i. but that's to be expected.
sillycilla Posted September 21, 2023 Posted September 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, ScorpiosGroove said: we can’t compare her to younger girls bc "they are starting out so promo is expected", we also can’t compare her to the older ones bc "she’s not like them" and we also CAN’T compare her to her peers bc y’all will have excuses for that too she already did a vma medley half a decade ago so she doesn’t need to perform anywhere anymore bc she already did that like ? They have excuses for the excuses. Beyoncé is everything yet nothing at all at the same time lmao 1
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