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Beyoncé

This is part 1 of the Beyoncé discussion.

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5 hours ago, AxelFox said:

I can't help but imagine you are the type that is always ready for action, cheeks spread and willing to take it; whether we're at a party, on a hike or at your grandparents' house. It's so hot 

I’ve never felt so clocked in my life

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On 9/2/2023 at 4:58 PM, Cbreezy said:

I know this was possibly meant as shade (?), which I'd get given all we've been through with Bey this era. 

 

However, I've been really intrigued about the whole visuals/streamers negotiation tea we got from Jeff Sneider the other day. 

 

Deep diving into the backend of Taylor's situation, it seems the streamers were also giving her the run-around hence her AMC deal. 

 

She's now smashing records and has drummed up almost $30 million in presales of theater tickets...from a show she taped across a couple of nights. Bear in mind that this is just North American ticket sales. 

 

Assuming Bey doesn't have a deal in place yet (which I actually don't think is the case), Taylor's situation could easily benefit Bey in one of two ways:

 

A) The streamers see there is still value in select big music artist partnerships, stop playing hardball, and essentially give Bey what she wants (which insiders say is a limited theatrical release followed by a quick streaming debut). In the art of competition, they won't want artists flocking to make independent theatrical deals like Taylor did in favor of their platforms. In the simplest terms, it'd make way more sense to cut Bey a $30 million check for exclusive and eternal rights to a film she produced in-house than have her "do a Taylor", retain ownership, release it indie, make a tonne a money, and still have the freedom to house it on a rival streaming platform down the line. In a way, it's much more advantageous to, for example, use the hype around being "the" platform to "present" 'the "long-awaited Beyonce visuals" to drum up subscribers than missing out entirely. 

 

OR

 

B) Bey "does a Taylor" and cuts a theatrical deal. Even if her base isn't as wide as a Taylor's "middle America" core to drum up insane sums like $20 mill/$30 mill from presales, one vital difference is that Bey would be premiering her ish worldwide. So, even with the most conservative estimate of its box office performance, she'll be making tens of millions back and thus turning a big profit if (for example) the visuals cost her a small amount to actually make. She retains ownership and thus can do as she chooses with them afterwards. So, while we sit here waiting for a streamer, she would in theory have the scope to go to theaters first and make it available on all digital stores after, sell physicals in her store, merch it up like she does with the music. So on and so forth. 

 

I'm for sure looking at this through stan-coated glasses and admit there's a tint of "assuming" there's a sizeable amount of interest in "Brand Beyonce" by streamers and theater partners who have data we for sure don't (and might suggest the opposite). But just mulling over all of this and assessing the variables assures me that, even in the worst case scenario, she has...options. 

 

In our annoyed state, I'm seeing a lot of "just release it on YouTube". But much as she annoys me, it's vital not to forget that the math has to math! Producing the visuals costs a lot of money; money that she spent upfront and will absolutely not make back on YouTube. Or, at least, not on YouTube alone. 

 

Anyway, this was wayyy longer than intended. But one thing is for sure: I think the future of Bey visuals (beyond Rennie) will probably look different on the backend. Her model of producing big splashy visual pieces to her albums and shopping them with a certain expectation of multiple takers and a big pay-off doesn't seem as...certain...anymore. The change could be as simple as snagging production deals that guarantee a release before she's even shot a scene (like many conventional movies)...or skewing less big and all-out (think indie short films). That said, I don't foresee her ever really going back to basic YouTube videos. By going big and theatrical, she's put herself and her output in certain rooms that she would voluntarily be exiting (Emmys, Oscars, Golden Globes) by ever going the YouTube route. It's far less lucrative too and we know fave is about her bag. 

It wasn’t shade. I am disappointed that her fans get a movie while we get less.

that fanbase always reporting my reasonable, on-topic posts and making mods cackle :dies: I know they tired of them reporting everything and everyone.

 

and they closed that OBH circle jerk thread. :foxaylove2:

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16 minutes ago, kimberly said:

that fanbase always reporting my reasonable, on-topic posts and making mods cackle :dies: I know they tired of them reporting everything and everyone.

 

and they closed that OBH circle jerk thread. :foxaylove2:

I was about to post this but it got closed the second I submitted send

 

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6 hours ago, Chris said:

I love the AUIYM look. :eli:

 

The Cuff It look, not really but if other people like it I can respect that.

 

:eddie:

 

Did I tell you my favorite CI look?

As long as it's not the Balmain gladiator one from the early Europe shows...

Thoughts on the song aside, is everyone ready to admit that AUIYM lowkey has some of the best choreo of the tour?

 

 

I mean watch the dancers here :flame:

6 hours ago, Blue Rose said:

Ive noticed that most full videos from the NA leg were shot from the upper sections. The videographers in Europe were all on the floor and had really good angles and close-ups. I know tickets are more expensive here but if youre going to a show just to film it for your channel, the least you can do is to get good seats

@family.guy123 disliking this… what is your youtube channel?

43 minutes ago, mariposa said:

As long as it's not the Balmain gladiator one from the early Europe shows...

Which one?

 

Show a picture.

The replies in here dragging the Thique, AYUIM, DrIL segment.

 

:redface:

 

Did someone say The LOST 3?

 

:redface:

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This is all shes getting from me.

 

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I wish during Thique she did the best part of the song :chick3:

1 hour ago, Chris said:

The replies in here dragging the Thique, AYUIM, DrIL segment.

 

:redface:

 

Did someone say The LOST 3?

 

:redface:

I'm not dragging that part girl, LOST as in songs she hasn't performed much since opening night. like, songs we lost???

 

it's just weird to call three random tracks "the big 3" like what does it even mean, there's nothing connecting the three besides being together on the setlist. 1 massive hit from 10 years ago and 2 random album cuts.

“the big 3” nickname has made many people so mad :lmao: 

AUIYM becoming a cult fave is part of my fantasy 

6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

“the big 3” nickname has made many people so mad :lmao: 

AUIYM becoming a cult fave is part of my fantasy 

Same, it deserves WAY more attention

6 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

AUIYM becoming a cult fave is part of my fantasy 

the tasteless people in the base will all convert. I'd do anything to hear "I TOLD YOU I'M A FUCKEN PROBLEM" live :jonny6:

7 minutes ago, Blue Rose said:

AUIYM becoming a cult fave is part of my fantasy 

when she decides to give us hyperpop girlies what we want and gives us an entire album other song in that vein :jonny3:

1 minute ago, cloudbusting said:

when she decides to give us hyperpop girlies what we want and gives us an entire album other song in that vein :jonny3:

it’s clear to me that AUIYM is the hint for act ii sound 

how did we miss this?

 

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Spoiler

Drag that miserable hag 

 

Just now, Blue Rose said:

it’s clear to me that AUIYM is the hint for act ii sound 

Miss XCX filing for unemployment as we speak

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