4 minutes ago, Otter said:

This angle definitely reveals AUIYM as the best of the 3 live. DIL has the cute adlib outro but AUIYM is straight up captivating beginning to end. It has a raw grit and punch that really stands out amongst the setlist and wakes the audience the F up

 

 

100% sure that the naked men sitting around 0:33 is a scene from the film, i can definitely see the weird horror-like aspect being true for AUIYM in particular 

I think the concept is there and I love how it's introduced sonically on the tour, it feels like it's about to shoot into the stratosphere but then the song begins are it's just very cookie cutter.

 

 

It needed more time in the kitchen to be the song I feel it was intended to be 

 

that concert special is going to be something serious

1 hour ago, Mitsouko said:

I knew it!

 

Never mind!

I couldn't tell the difference either, from my couch!

35 minutes ago, mariposa said:

Glad you brought it up because I NEVER understood why Hive made this out to be some big cryptic thing. The message was very crystal clear: releases used to be on Tuesday, Bey drops ST on Friday -> releases officially move to Friday -> and now she's releasing [released] BMS on Tuesday

 

Nothing more, nothing less. The whole debacle was really serving no deduction skills 

Oh my god... You're so right!!!

I have a theory on "the big three"...well, mainly, DIL. 

 

Lemme preface this by saying: I literally LOVE a well-oiled, slickly produced SHOW (this will make more sense in a sec lol). 

 

With that, I "think" benching the songs is a combo of: 

 

* Bey being at capacity: The show is a lot as is. I always got the sense the first show Stockholm was her feeling out her upper limit and it was immediately clear (to her) that something had to give. Hence chopping that section.

 

* Lipping! I can't be convinced that the Dubai version of DIL isn't largely lipped. Especially the climax. It's literally the exact same every time she touches it (the inflections, the "improv", the everything. Note for note). I personally LOVE a good prerecord and have many Bey songs that I actually PREFER in their "live" ("prerecorded") capacity. However, given how viral DIL Dubai went, I think she'd essentially end up telling on herself to even the untrained ear if we heard it the same every single show. Again, to the trained ear of a seasoned BeyStan (such as yours truly), there are some other clearly-lipped parts of the show (like the Cuff It bridge), but they didn't go viral before the tour and come with a lot of expectations going into it (like DIL Dubai).

 

Like most things Bey (including the visuals, I feel), it's all ended up working to her advantage. The "missing three songs" has become a "thing" and is now something she has made an "event". I doubt that was the initial plan, yet, alas, here we are three months later hyped for their return at a show most of us never even went to lol. 

Edited September 2, 20233 yr by Cbreezy

1 minute ago, Cbreezy said:

I have a theory on "the big three"...well, mainly, DIL. 

 

Lemme preface this by saying: I literally LOVE a well-oiled, slickly produced SHOW (this will make more sense in a sec lol). 

 

With that, I "think" benching the songs is a combo of: 

 

* Bey being at capacity: The show is a lot as is. I always got the sense the first show Stockholm was her feeling out her upper limit and it was immediately clear (to her) that something had to give. Hence chopping that section.

 

* Lipping! I can't be convinced that the Dubai version of DIL isn't largely lipped. Especially the climax. It's literally the exact same every time she touches it (the inflections, the "improv", the everything. Note for note). I personally LOVE a good prerecord and have many Bey songs that I actually PREFER in their "live" ("prerecorded") capacity. However, given how viral DIL Dubai went, I think she'd essentially end up telling on herself to even the untrained ear if we heard it the same every single show. Again, to the trained ear of a seasoned BeyStan (such as yours truly), there are some other clearly-lipped parts of the show (like the Cuff It bridge), but they didn't go viral before the tour and come with a lot of expectations going into (like DIL Dubai).

 

Like most things Bey (including the visuals, I feel), it's all ended up working to her advantage. The "missing three songs" has become a "thing" and is now something she has made an "event". I doubt that was the initial plan, tet, alas, here we are three months later hyped for their return at a show most of us never went to lol. 

I don't agree with this.  Stockholm was different for sure

15 minutes ago, Cbreezy said:

I have a theory on "the big three"...well, mainly, DIL. 

 

Lemme preface this by saying: I literally LOVE a well-oiled, slickly produced SHOW (this will make more sense in a sec lol). 

 

With that, I "think" benching the songs is a combo of: 

 

* Bey being at capacity: The show is a lot as is. I always got the sense the first show Stockholm was her feeling out her upper limit and it was immediately clear (to her) that something had to give. Hence chopping that section.

 

* Lipping! I can't be convinced that the Dubai version of DIL isn't largely lipped. Especially the climax. It's literally the exact same every time she touches it (the inflections, the "improv", the everything. Note for note). I personally LOVE a good prerecord and have many Bey songs that I actually PREFER in their "live" ("prerecorded") capacity. However, given how viral DIL Dubai went, I think she'd essentially end up telling on herself to even the untrained ear if we heard it the same every single show. Again, to the trained ear of a seasoned BeyStan (such as yours truly), there are some other clearly-lipped parts of the show (like the Cuff It bridge), but they didn't go viral before the tour and come with a lot of expectations going into it (like DIL Dubai).

 

Like most things Bey (including the visuals, I feel), it's all ended up working to her advantage. The "missing three songs" has become a "thing" and is now something she has made an "event". I doubt that was the initial plan, yet, alas, here we are three months later hyped for their return at a show most of us never even went to lol. 

 

DIL climax is not lipped whatsoever...Dubai, Stockholm, Atlanta, and LA versions  all have elements distinctly different from each other. Plus the start & stop with the crowd interaction. It's been live every time. But the run IS the run and people have learned it...not every moment lends itself to going off melody and improvising. 

Edited September 2, 20233 yr by giRLbye.

6 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

I don't agree with this.  Stockholm was different for sure

(from 0.16 mark onwards)

 

 

(from 2.40 onwards)

 

 

I know Bey and pre-recording is a testy topic and one that seems to get some of the girls agitated. But, as someone who LOVES her commitment to giving an epic SHOW, I've always been really blown away and fascinated by the audio aspects of her concerts. The blend between live and not live is so seamless it's scary (in the best way). Bey and her musical directors over the years are unmatched. 

Beyonce been using the same runs in moments of DIL, 1+1, etc from night to night...that doesnt mean its lipped b/c its consistent

 

people have learned the DIL run...it was a whole social media challenge so why wouldnt it be executed like we heard?

10 minutes ago, giRLbye. said:

 

DIL climax is not lipped whatsoever...Dubai, Stockholm, Atlanta, and LA versions are all distinctly different from each other. Plus the start & stop with the crowd interaction. It's been live every time.

Further to the comparison clips I posted above, my honest take is that the climax is likely a blend of being initially live and lipped by its culmination. 

 

There are just too many variables at play that, IMO, would affect the last (and most demanding) part of the vocal. Specifically, her securing herself in position and being propelled high on a narrow, shaky platform. All the while sounding note perfect and, IMO, the exact same (in that portion of the song) each time she does it. 

 

I will happily stand corrected if it's proven to be totally live, because I know she's that good. But that's my personal guesstimate.

 

BTW, deffo not intending to make this some big debate. As there is zero shade in my take. I'm actually ripping it on MP3 as I type lol. Live, not live, partially live, or whatever lol.

Edited September 2, 20233 yr by Cbreezy

1 minute ago, Cbreezy said:

(from 0.16 mark onwards)

 

 

(from 2.40 onwards)

 

 

I know Bey and pre-recording is a testy topic and one that seems to get some of the girls agitated. But, as someone who LOVES her commitment to giving an epic SHOW, I've always been really blown away and fascinated by the audio aspects of her concerts. The blend between live and not live is so seamless it's scary (in the best way). Bey and her musical directors over the years are unmatched. 

Stockholm and Atlanta were definitely different. If you compare the 3:02 bit of ATL to the Sweden show, you'll notice one is head voice, the other is falsetto. Atlanta and LA seem to be the same tho.

 

I think the full ATL ending was live and then that version was used for LA while she lipped. Still, for both ATL and LA she repeated the first part of the run like 3 times live before the lipped section which is when the riser starts going up. (2:10 - 2:40)

@Cbreezy These are very clearly not the same. Timestamps are embedded in both videos.

3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I hope there’s no poetry monologues in the Renaissance film. Keep the transitions between songs when they’re already perfect. Don’t insert anything between the songs. It works for Lemonade, but not for Renaissance 

The only spoken word monologues in the visuals (assuming they actually get released) should be done by Kevin JZ Prodigy.

I need some of the spoken bits from the live versions released officially!

1 hour ago, ScorpiosGroove said:

fr it’s really the one that aged the worst and it was top 5 for me when the album came out… it’s the corny chorus i fear cause the "it’s so good" part is still heavenly 

She had a good idea with it, good beat, great sample but ruined it making the whole song about Jay Zs dick again. It should have been a campy empowering anthem. 

On 8/27/2023 at 4:47 PM, sillycilla said:

I can’t believe Bey’s team really planned and thought the only thing that will keep the fans gagged every night is outfit changes. The tour thread isn’t even poppin because people have nothing to discuss and the tour is coming to an end soon and she will disappear. 

Meanwhile Taylor’s about to put a film into theaters

I didn't really have the experience of loving a song more after the tour. 

My top 5 since the beginning has remained the same (AHAP, VG, ITG, PH, Cozy) and my bottom 2 stayed the same (CI and SR). The CI's and SR's performances didn't change anything to me tbh. 

 

I really loved the album's experience. Those songs are at their best there. And tbh if I discovered VG and AS during the tour, I wouldn't have loved them that much. She made them a bit dull and their performances don't do them justice imo. 

18 minutes ago, Triton said:

She had a good idea with it, good beat, great sample but ruined it making the whole song about Jay Zs dick again. It should have been a campy empowering anthem. 

also this highkey 

 

Spoiler

kinda need her to sing about something other than jay’s dick, money and being a bad ***** 

 

47 minutes ago, Otter said:

And it's a complete waste of a tour closer, it just feels like credits rolling versus an actual climax 

let's speak on it!

 

before the tour began I was fully expecting CUFF IT-ENERGY-BREAK MY SOUL to be the encore like it would have left the crowds on such a high. 

The amount of celebs there last night

 

Damn

4 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I hope there’s no poetry monologues in the Renaissance film. Keep the transitions between songs when they’re already perfect. Don’t insert anything between the songs. It works for Lemonade, but not for Renaissance 

Poetry may be gone, but I doubt you're getting the same album transitions. It's a completely different body of work, there has to be room for narrative etc. It's not going to be a 62min film matching the album beat for beat, expect connected story telling, some extended renditions, some songs shorted etc especially since it's coming so long after the album expect newer mixes like we got with some BIK songs

 

Still love the intro they added to FYWB

 

 

 

Edited September 2, 20233 yr by Otter

15 minutes ago, Lose My Breath said:

The amount of celebs there last night

 

Damn

Do we have a list. 

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Edit to the previous comment : I had forgotten AUIYM. That performance kinda blew my performance, most of the performances on tour also did but that one did make me like a song I already liked a bit more. 

35 minutes ago, laudibella said:

Meanwhile Taylor’s about to put a film into theaters

Good?

Summer Renaissance is for the pretty girls with coins who get dicked down regularly

 

Something about the Drunk In Love performance doesn’t land for me.