BnPac Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, swissman said: I wouldn't say her 30s flew out of the window...at all... I mean in her 30s she: released 3 solo albums, 2 of which are in the category of most acclaimed pop albums of all time headlined the Super Bowl and then performed at it again 3 years later giving an instantly iconic performance released perhaps the most notable (and acclaimed) live album of the millennium became a legend in addition to giving us: a fun collaborative album a concept soundtrack album a stunning visual album (Black is King) one of her best tours (FWT) countless impeccable TV performances including two highly impressive VMAs medleys of her entire album all while having 3 kids She always said she'd retire by her 30s, she didn't. I can't even say "we should be grateful for what we have" because that implies the above is anything but amazing and awe-inspiring. I did not say she didn't do anything significant, it's a way of speaking. I meant a whole part of it flew by with no solo albums : 6 years to be exact. Anyway I don't think a new album is coming soon.
swissman Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, BnPac said: I did not say she didn't do anything significant, it's a way of speaking. I meant a whole part of it flew by with no solo albums : 6 years to be exact. Anyway I don't think a new album is coming soon. ah, got it.
BnPac Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 3 minutes ago, swissman said: ah, got it. Yeah, that's why I call it her best decade, because it was her peak music wise and her most significant one in terms of status, impact, creative input etc. But who knows maybe the old saying that 40 is the new 30 can translate creative-wise to Beyoncé. Or maybe her creative peak was not correlated at all to her being in that golden age, who knows? Edited April 20, 2022 by BnPac
swissman Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 I'm just going to trust Beyoncé at this point. I'd rather she take her time and make / release the works she wants (4, ST, Lemonade) vs. put something out just for the sake of maximizing a good commercial position. Like I honestly think the best choice Beyoncé made in her career was not releasing Grown Woman and Standing on the Sun as singles, both of which would have have significant promotion and visibility as part of global campaigns for two of the biggest companies, but as great as they are, they're also a touch basic (SOTS) or just something that likely wouldn't have made the impact she needed (GW being largely a followup sound to something like End of Time or Run the World vs something entirely new). She was teetering on the verge of icon and legend in 2013, and ST made her a legend. If she had just releases singles in order to get a hit and it didn't work, she'd be put into the category of "popular in the 2000s but not applicable to the 2010s". But, she released ST, changed the game, put a new release strategy forward for the industry to now largely head towards, put out a new kind of album, renewed the artistic value of pop music, and became a legend. I trust her.
*-ChriZ-* Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, swissman said: I'm just going to trust Beyoncé at this point. I'd rather she take her time and make / release the works she wants (4, ST, Lemonade) vs. put something out just for the sake of maximizing a good commercial position. Like I honestly think the best choice Beyoncé made in her career was not releasing Grown Woman and Standing on the Sun as singles, both of which would have have significant promotion and visibility as part of global campaigns for two of the biggest companies, but as great as they are, they're also a touch basic (SOTS) or just something that likely wouldn't have made the impact she needed (GW being largely a followup sound to something like End of Time or Run the World vs something entirely new). She was teetering on the verge of icon and legend in 2013, and ST made her a legend. If she had just releases singles in order to get a hit and it didn't work, she'd be put into the category of "popular in the 2000s but not applicable to the 2010s". But, she released ST, changed the game, put a new release strategy forward for the industry to now largely head towards, put out a new kind of album, renewed the artistic value of pop music, and became a legend. I trust her. Creatively speaking, I also trust her 100%. What would honestly piss me off to the max is her releasing B7 and calling it a day. After all those years, we DESERVE BTS footage, performances, visibility, etc.. We deserve acoustic sets, orchestral versions, interesting collabs, hearing her TALK about the project and her life, etc I am not here for EIL or TG type of "promo" Edited April 20, 2022 by *-ChriZ-*
swissman Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: Creatively speaking, I also trust her 100%. What would honestly piss me off to the max is her releasing B7 and calling it a day. After all those years, we DESERVE BTS footage, performances, visibility, etc.. We deserve acoustic sets, orchestral versions, interesting collabs, hearing her TALK about the project and her life, etc I am not here for EIL or TG type of "promo" Ya I agree with that. And I think/hope Beyoncé knows it's time to go back to sharing a bit more than just the work itself. IMO, her refusal to promote was partly a reaction to the abundant promotion throughout her career under Matthew, and I can kind of imagine that now, a new decade, ~5 "underpromoted" albums in, she'll want to do something new. It'll probably be promo but in a very controlled, "Beyoncé" way, but I'm here for that too. I mean she has the added benefit of doing anything promo-related would be surprising and interesting even for non-fans since she's not done anything like that (as a main thing) since...2011? Edited April 20, 2022 by swissman
swissman Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 What if she really is releasing on her B'Day we just got the wrong B'Day last time.
ShouldersSideways Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Bey leaked Harry's album so they'd have to move the release up and she can take his May date
swissman Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 (edited) Still, my ideal B7 era is a lead single/video release followed by a surprise album drop the following week that comes with a full B7 "pre-recorded" concert on Netflix and then each subsequent single can have its own video release once they are made singles (so the era can be sustained) and then at the end Beyoncé releases something between a visual album and a medley, like a condensed visual album that doesn't include the visuals for the singles but adds new ones in the context of this short film (40 mins?) [like how Spirit had its own new visuals in Black is King]. Then, to close the era, she releases a documentary about the making of featuring tons of studio footage and interviews by those who worked with her on it. Edited April 20, 2022 by swissman
Brikenbur Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 We’re never getting anything. Close this thread!
Beyondslay Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Can't you all see? B7 is already here! it's in our minds! Innovative Queen.
*-ChriZ-* Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, swissman said: If only the voting commitee existed of people like him who get it and Beys intentions..
swissman Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: If only the voting commitee existed of people like him who get it and Beys intentions.. yes! to me (someone who really doesn't understand the technicalities of music) its really amazing she puts this much though and symbolism in it and most (99%?) people won't even know...BUT you can kind of feel it, if you're actively feeling the music.
Space&Time Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Do we or Beyonce really care who is releasing. I mean as long as she doesn't come out on the same day as a big artist... we don't have to wait a whole month, quarter, season, for a slot as if she won't shine bright on her own. Beyonce is not sitting around biting her nails looking the calendar.
*-ChriZ-* Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 5 minutes ago, Space&Time said: Do we or Beyonce really care who is releasing. I mean as long as she doesn't come out on the same day as a big artist... we don't have to wait a whole month, quarter, season, for a slot as if she won't shine bright on her own. Beyonce is not sitting around biting her nails looking the calendar. We as fans couldnt care less, but there seem to be thoughts there on Beys part that give us an idea when she wants to release: - releasing an album and a tour close to it to maximize profit - releasing in "strong" months to maximize profit, thus avoiding the beginning of a year or summer (usually) (Maybe looking at eligibity periods)
Space&Time Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 15 minutes ago, *-ChriZ-* said: We as fans couldnt care less, but there seem to be thoughts there on Beys part that give us an idea when she wants to release: - releasing an album and a tour close to it to maximize profit - releasing in "strong" months to maximize profit, thus avoiding the beginning of a year or summer (usually) (Maybe looking at eligibity periods) I think the tour is probably her biggest consideration. I am getting so impatient. I guess, I really expected some concrete news by now at least.
ShouldersSideways Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 31 minutes ago, Space&Time said: Do we or Beyonce really care who is releasing. I mean as long as she doesn't come out on the same day as a big artist... we don't have to wait a whole month, quarter, season, for a slot as if she won't shine bright on her own. Beyonce is not sitting around biting her nails looking the calendar. She's the same woman who released a week before Drake in 2016 so I don't think she cares at all as long as it's not the same day as her.
Mr. Specialist Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Yeah I can’t imagine her going against Adele, Harry, Kendrick, Silk Sonic, & possibly Taylor at the Grammys next year. I see her waiting until the Fall to release B7.
ShouldersSideways Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 Netflix is hemorrhaging subscribers and its stock is plummeting so now seems like just the time she would drop an album on there
ShouldersSideways Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: Yeah I can’t imagine her going against Adele, Harry, Kendrick, Silk Sonic, & possibly Taylor at the Grammys next year. I see her waiting until the Fall to release B7. Why? She released in 16 despite the fact it was one of the most competitive GRAMMY years in awhile.
Mr. Specialist Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Why? She released in 16 despite the fact it was one of the most competitive GRAMMY years in awhile. And Lemonade still got snubbed even though she won 2 Grammys for Best Music Video & Best Urban Contemporary Album during that era. Kendrick always releases great visuals as well, so I can see him even being a strong contender for the Best Music Video category next year. We shall see what she does I guess.
ShouldersSideways Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: And Lemonade still got snubbed even though she won 2 Grammys for Best Music Video & Best Urban Contemporary Album during that era. That's my whole point tho - I don't think she really cares
Mr. Specialist Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, ShouldersSideways said: That's my whole point tho - I don't think she really cares I want her to win a AOTY Grammy at some point in her career. It’s long overdue. I’m sure I’m not the only fan who feels this way. Maybe we just need to accept the fact that there’s a great chance it will never happen.
ShouldersSideways Posted April 20, 2022 Posted April 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Mr. Specialist said: I want her to win a AOTY Grammy at some point in her career. It’s long overdue. I’m sure I’m not the only fan who feels this way. Maybe we just need to accept the fact that there’s a great chance it will never happen. I don't see her getting it while she's still young and relevant tbh. Someone who seems to have everything rubs people the wrong way so I think one day when she's faded culturally they'll give it to her for some random covers album or something when she's like 65
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