Hallad173 Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, smoothkarmel said: IASF era was something else I love seeing my favorite (ST) up there with DIL!!! Poor Lemonade and B’Day tho, it’s like they just always stay at the back of the pack these days.
Hallad173 Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, ShouldersSideways said: Beyoncé releasing a spring and floral theme IVP at the tail end of the spring season? That timing sounds pretty on brand.
SashaDevachelli Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Lemme preemptively mute her IG and anyone related to parkwood for the influx of IVP posts we’re about to get
jane Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 5 hours ago, GodSaveTheQueen said: I feel like the industry as a whole has changed. People consume music differently now, so I don’t think it really matter what season or quarter albums are released in anymore. What’s important is the impact, strategy, and reach. If Bey comes with excellent music that makes people feel good and has a creative and out the box delivery method, she has nothing to worry about. I think Beyoncé is planning to disturb the industry again. She hinted at it in her last interview, she said that she is looking forward to disrupt more dated rules and i'm certain her way of releasing B7 will be another major one. I hope she goes IN pissing off those record labels again. If they are going to play with her name, she better give them a good reason to tbh.
Mr. Specialist Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) I need B7 in my life right now. Jokes aside, this past year has been one of the hardest years in my life. I lost my 2nd aunt who was like another mother to me. I still have days where I don’t even feel like getting out of bed. Besides Gospel, no music out right now is lifting my spirit. I think that’s also why I’ve been craving B7 so much every since Bey revealed that she wants to make music that will be a feel good escape for people. Edited April 19, 2022 by Mr. Specialist
jane Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hallad173 said: I mostly agree. Though I don’t think that Billie meant to have anybody attack Beyoncé with that statement, I’m certain she is a fan of hers. I just don’t think she thought ahead when she said it cuz most fans of Billie would respond with something along the lines of “no we’re here to see you, not Beyoncé” and in the pits of Twitter, it of course devolves to scummy takes. Unfortunately Beyoncé comparisons or just celebrities saying Beyoncé, get blogs their clicks. I just keep scrolling past the articles and choose not to engage on IG or FB. It’s a losing battle man. You seriously buy that Billie Elish would think that her fans are the type that would also be fans of Beyoncé? seriously? you think she is that naive? She knew what she was doing because that girl spent her debut career in establishing that she is anti everything, and non pop so with that logic her fans would share that same mentality which means she cant possibly think that her core fans are people who were interested in seeing a Beyoncé concert knowing how DIFFERENT the two artists are. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt but let's not push it. They keep playing with Beyoncé's name because they know she wont respond to their crap so they have gotten comfortable with it. It just shows how freaking insecure Beyoncé is making them feel in that industry and that makes me happy but i feel freaking annoyed as a fan that these artists think they can use her name like that when they are lazy with their performances to begin with and that aint on Beyoncé. She will never have to be mediocre and lower herself to look basic like those girls and that's why they're mad. You dont think that Oscar performance that is up in views on youtube compared to hers who actually won isn't making her team a tad bit salty? they surely wanted Beyoncé to be basic with it and each time she is showing them she is not interested to hang with their laziness. Also the people who were praised for that festival so far are Doja Cat and Meg the stallion. Two ladies of color who were not headliners while crickets on the headliners. You dont think they are pissed? they will continue to show their pettiness in return. Edited April 19, 2022 by jane
Hallad173 Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, jane said: You seriously buy that Billie Elish would think that her fans are the type that would also be fans of Beyoncé? seriously? you think she is that naive? She knew what she was doing because that girl spent her debut career in establishing that she is anti everything, and non pop so with that logic her fans would share that same mentality which means she cant possibly think that her core fans are people who were interested in seeing a Beyoncé concert knowing how DIFFERENT the two artists are. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt but let's not push it. They keep playing with Beyoncé's name because they know she wont respond to their crap so they have gotten comfortable with it. It just shows how freaking insecure Beyoncé is making them feel in that industry and that makes me happy but i feel freaking annoyed as a fan that these artists think they can use her name like that when they are lazy with their performances to begin with and that aint on Beyoncé. She will never have to be mediocre and lower herself to look basic like those girls and that's why they're mad. You dont think that Oscar performance that is up in views on youtube compared to hers who actually won isn't making her team a tad bit salty? they surely wanted Beyoncé to be basic with it and each time she is showing them she is not interested to hang with their laziness. I mean, I don’t know anything about Billie her music isn’t my style AT ALL but it’s a music festival so lots of people are there to see many different artists, it’s not a stretch that some of the audience was just curious on Billie and not hardcore fans. I’m sure it was the same for Bey when she did it. anyway I think that she tried to pay a compliment that is getting blown out of proportion right now and became this weird “poor Billie” thing. Unfortunately it’s cool to call Beyoncé overrated and diss her, so this is all it takes to get people to trash her but it’ll blow over in a day or two. Hopefully.
yonsé Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Genuine question: why do we feel she could drop a "single"? Bey hasn't done a pre-album "single" in forever and with streaming having no guarantees and Pop radio being a bit of a myth, I'd say it's riskier than ever to try and revert back to the "single-then-album" roll-out. Now, I'd be here for it if she could find a way to circumvent the commercial pressure of a pre-album song like she did with Formation. Remember how it was unlisted and therefore chart ineligible until the album dropped? A lot of stans moaned about her missing out on a possible #1. But IMO the song was such a risky sound and subject that there were zero guarantees it would catch on. So she played it perfectly IMO. I say all of this because I'm heavily invested in her not wasting her album hype. She's in such a weird spot. All at once, she's this huge deal and seemingly loved by everyone AND yet there's a bloodlust for her downfall. Or at the very least, the desire to knock her down a peg or two. I do not want her in a position where a potentially underperforming single impacts the GP appetite for an album. Some stans can't or perhaps won't see it, but Bey has been very savvily playing the game and covering her blindspots for over a decade (see: pivoting in face of lack of Pop support). Going back to a rollout that better served "Irreplaceable Bey" instead of "post-ST Bey" wouldn't be a good look IMO. The only way a pre-album single works IMO is if it's got a surefire streaming magnet feature like a Drake or Cardi on it. Drunk in Love, Formation, APESHIT, and Spirit we’re all singles, with APESHIT & DIL being released at the same time as the album. she always leads with a single. there will be a single. Lol
yonsé Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, jane said: You seriously buy that Billie Elish would think that her fans are the type that would also be fans of Beyoncé? seriously? you think she is that naive? She knew what she was doing because that girl spent her debut career in establishing that she is anti everything, and non pop so with that logic her fans would share that same mentality which means she cant possibly think that her core fans are people who were interested in seeing a Beyoncé concert knowing how DIFFERENT the two artists are. I'm all for giving people the benefit of the doubt but let's not push it. They keep playing with Beyoncé's name because they know she wont respond to their crap so they have gotten comfortable with it. It just shows how freaking insecure Beyoncé is making them feel in that industry and that makes me happy but i feel freaking annoyed as a fan that these artists think they can use her name like that when they are lazy with their performances to begin with and that aint on Beyoncé. She will never have to be mediocre and lower herself to look basic like those girls and that's why they're mad. You dont think that Oscar performance that is up in views on youtube compared to hers who actually won isn't making her team a tad bit salty? they surely wanted Beyoncé to be basic with it and each time she is showing them she is not interested to hang with their laziness. Also the people who were praised for that festival so far are Doja Cat and Meg the stallion. Two ladies of color who were not headliners while crickets on the headliners. You dont think they are pissed? they will continue to show their pettiness in return. not this dissertation. billie is a kid. she likes Beyoncé. we know this. she said what she said because she headlined Coachella on a Saturday…and Beyoncé had been trending all day. y’all be doing too much for what?
*-ChriZ-* Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Im happy that Billie mentioned Bey. It just results in Bey gaining more traction and seeing how amazing Beychella was, this is not bad at all. Theres literally nothing to lose for bey
SashaDevachelli Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 The way people try to prove Bey is in the illuminati is the same way you guys love to just assume every person is out to get bey and has a personal agenda against her-
Cbreezy Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 1 hour ago, yonsé said: Drunk in Love, Formation, APESHIT, and Spirit we’re all singles, with APESHIT & DIL being released at the same time as the album. she always leads with a single. there will be a single. Lol Not really. DIL: was definitely a post-album thing. The label (like anyone should) kinda gauged it would probably do the best and were ready to roll quickly. But it didn't preceded the album in any way and if (for example) Blow was the song that ended up going viral they would have gone in that direction instead. Apeshit & Spirit: Both from side-projects, we likely litmus testing her single power in a post-ST world and pretty much highlight why traditional singles no longer serve her. Formation: Like I mentioned, this was was a single but it was very cleverly dressed up as a non-single. She initially made it unlisted, chart-ineligible, didn't send to radio until the album as a whole dropped. The reason at the time was that it had a much bigger meaning beyond anything commercial (celebration of Blackness). It was a genius way of doing a "single" without looking like it or being subject to the same measuring metrics as her peers. The problem is she can't really do that again (the whole unlisted thing). Or at least not in the exact same way, as folk will catch on and realize she's finding ways to prevent being "measured". Assuming she's dropping something light and carefree, the whole "it's beyond the charts" thing won't cut it either. The solution IMO, would be to do something innovative like dropping the whole single or a clip of it on TikTok. At least a week before the visual project (with the full song) drops. The platform is very on trend, a huge driver of music buzz/promotion, but not yet chart eligible. She gets the perk of the "OMG Beyonce just dropped", the virality of people using it interactively, and the upside of not being able to be measured before the album.
Lose My Breath Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Genuine question: why do we feel she could drop a "single"? Bey hasn't done a pre-album "single" in forever and with streaming having no guarantees and Pop radio being a bit of a myth, I'd say it's riskier than ever to try and revert back to the "single-then-album" roll-out. Now, I'd be here for it if she could find a way to circumvent the commercial pressure of a pre-album song like she did with Formation. Remember how it was unlisted and therefore chart ineligible until the album dropped? A lot of stans moaned about her missing out on a possible #1. But IMO the song was such a risky sound and subject that there were zero guarantees it would catch on. So she played it perfectly IMO. I say all of this because I'm heavily invested in her not wasting her album hype. She's in such a weird spot. All at once, she's this huge deal and seemingly loved by everyone AND yet there's a bloodlust for her downfall. Or at the very least, the desire to knock her down a peg or two. I do not want her in a position where a potentially underperforming single impacts the GP appetite for an album. Some stans can't or perhaps won't see it, but Bey has been very savvily playing the game and covering her blindspots for over a decade (see: pivoting in face of lack of Pop support). Going back to a rollout that better served "Irreplaceable Bey" instead of "post-ST Bey" wouldn't be a good look IMO. The only way a pre-album single works IMO is if it's got a surefire streaming magnet feature like a Drake or Cardi on it. Every album outside of BEYONCE has led with a track prior to release, whether they were treated as traditional "singles" or not, and she teased IBO prior to BEYONCE.
abeille Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 It just dawned on me that we will never have a performance on the level of Beychella again. She really set the bar to infinite, hence her trending during Coachella every year and all these artists bringing her up.
abeille Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Y'all are getting ahead of yourselves with these conspiracy theories. The main argument I'm seeing here is that it invites hate toward Bey, but no one should care about what a couple of keyboard warriors on Twitter (or experts with no expertise, as fave likes to call them) have to say about one of the most revered performances in recent memory. If anything, it just proves they have a personal vendetta against her. There was no agenda behind Billie's comments, the girl has proven herself to be a fan on numerous occasions.
Lose My Breath Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 31 minutes ago, abeille said: Y'all are getting ahead of yourselves with these conspiracy theories. The main argument I'm seeing here is that it invites hate toward Bey, but no one should care about what a couple of keyboard warriors on Twitter (or experts with no expertise, as fave likes to call them) have to say about one of the most revered performances in recent memory. If anything, it just proves they have a personal vendetta against her. There was no agenda behind Billie's comments, the girl has proven herself to be a fan on numerous occasions. Yeah, I'm utterly confused by those comments Weird times
Starshine Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, abeille said: It just dawned on me that we will never have a performance on the level of Beychella again. She really set the bar to infinite, hence her trending during Coachella every year and all these artists bringing her up. She will top herself once again as she always does. She's cursed with trying to outdo herself like MJ because they're their only competition. If we put it into perspective, she's only 40 and still has a long career ahead of her. Madonna was 46 with Confessions and then 50 with the Sticky and Sweet tour. There will be plenty of festivals and stadiums for her to do, new technology she'll take advantage of in the future, etc. I didn't think she'd top Glastonbury, VMA 2014/VMA 2016, Made in America 2015, and then she does it proving me wrong every time.
Armani? Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Hold Up still deserved to be hit, they really made it a Urban only single
Chris Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 Apparently, Dojo Cat is a better performer than Beyonce.
Beyondslay Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 People want to "humble" Beyonce so bad, the gag is that she real life is! The Queen is just extremely talented at what she does! hating ass hoes.
*-ChriZ-* Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 27 minutes ago, Chris said: Apparently, Dojo Cat is a better performer than Beyonce. Who said that?
Island Goddess Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 New Bey base thread but same harping on about; conspiracies/negativity/phantom album release dates Hobbies are needed It really is a shame the OG base got deleted , years of eras (especially ST) just gone.
yonsé Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 6 hours ago, Cbreezy said: Not really. DIL: was definitely a post-album thing. The label (like anyone should) kinda gauged it would probably do the best and were ready to roll quickly. But it didn't preceded the album in any way and if (for example) Blow was the song that ended up going viral they would have gone in that direction instead. Apeshit & Spirit: Both from side-projects, we likely litmus testing her single power in a post-ST world and pretty much highlight why traditional singles no longer serve her. Formation: Like I mentioned, this was was a single but it was very cleverly dressed up as a non-single. She initially made it unlisted, chart-ineligible, didn't send to radio until the album as a whole dropped. The reason at the time was that it had a much bigger meaning beyond anything commercial (celebration of Blackness). It was a genius way of doing a "single" without looking like it or being subject to the same measuring metrics as her peers. The problem is she can't really do that again (the whole unlisted thing). Or at least not in the exact same way, as folk will catch on and realize she's finding ways to prevent being "measured". Assuming she's dropping something light and carefree, the whole "it's beyond the charts" thing won't cut it either. The solution IMO, would be to do something innovative like dropping the whole single or a clip of it on TikTok. At least a week before the visual project (with the full song) drops. The platform is very on trend, a huge driver of music buzz/promotion, but not yet chart eligible. She gets the perk of the "OMG Beyonce just dropped", the virality of people using it interactively, and the upside of not being able to be measured before the album. …but they were all singles girl. there’s gonna be a single to promote the album, whether it’s a traditionally released one or not lol if the visual album will live on Netflix, they will have a single to put on YouTube. She’s done this with every visual album thus far.
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