moonlitdick Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, genio said: I want to jump ship so badly but no one has me on a chokehold the same way Ari has. I guess we have to accept that we're stanning a lazy avon lady who can't even promote her ******* make up brand properly the same way others do (speaking about MET Galas, VOGUE interviews, magazine covers etc). Broooo like I’ve been with this woman through it all so I can’t just say “**** it” Why did God have to make somebody so CRUEL this talented & addictive
mxoonlight Posted May 29, 2022 Posted May 29, 2022 can she use her personal tiktok if twitter is gone for good
Angelgrande Posted May 30, 2022 Posted May 30, 2022 18 hours ago, genio said: I want to jump ship so badly but no one has me on a chokehold the same way Ari has. I guess we have to accept that we're stanning a lazy avon lady who can't even promote her ******* make up brand properly the same way others do (speaking about MET Galas, VOGUE interviews, magazine covers etc). Exactly I’m afraid we’ll be suffering all year
R.E.M. Posted May 30, 2022 Author Posted May 30, 2022 Ponytail did 12.8M Spotify streams on Saturday (Top 5 for all female artists) with no album out in 2 years. The DEMAND.
Material Girl Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 she’s probably made more money with the rem beauty launch than she she did with the entire positions era the break would kill me if i wasn’t so excited for the wicked soundtrack and the movie. I know that’s not a lot of y’all’s thing tho
Gerardo Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 Staning her is f*ckinh boring It really wouldn’t hurt her to check her email and jump on a random collab a DJ asked her to be in, go shoot a MV in one hour of only beauty shots, announce it on IG stories and then continuing selling her stupid make up
moonlitdick Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Gerardo said: Staning her is f*ckinh boring It really wouldn’t hurt her to check her email and jump on a random collab a DJ asked her to be in, go shoot a MV in one hour of only beauty shots, announce it on IG stories and then continuing selling her stupid make up If we don’t get anything by the fall
moonlitdick Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Material Girl said: she’s probably made more money with the rem beauty launch than she she did with the entire positions era the break would kill me if i wasn’t so excited for the wicked soundtrack and the movie. I know that’s not a lot of y’all’s thing tho Excitement for that literally changes nothing, it’s not coming til December 2024 That’s 2 & 1/2 years like bro…….. Edited May 31, 2022 by moonlitdick
ariananext Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 10 hours ago, Devin said: Either y’all spoiled or I’m just used to waiting. I don't mind waiting for music either, it's not that in my opinion. 1) The last era (actually the last two) we had despite being great musically we had close to nothing speaking of visuals, performances, interviews, memorable moments, photoshoots etc. 2) She doesn't even know how to be a proper beauty lady, she doesn't do magazine covers, interviews, Vogue videos, the only cute thing we got was that Allure MV looks breakdown. She can't even make a cute TikTok or an Instagram post which wasn't shot 6 months in advance, like every content we got had that same grey background, shot on the same day months ago and recycled 15 times already by her social media manager, and well it's not working. Even the ULTA launch, there wasn't a single fan picture, she took three pictures and a video which were heavily and horribly edited (and which lead to more drags) and called it a day. 3) Speaking of projects she abandoned, Don't Look Up, anybody else would've campaigned hard after getting to know they were in the Oscar talk. She gave us a half assed performance on The Voice of all slots and didn't even bother to attend the Premiere or any of the awards she was up for. 4) She stopped interacting with fans, deleted Twitter, doesn't use TikTok properly/for anything but commercial videos, can't even post on Instagram anymore, her feed is a mess and she hasn't bothered to update her fans about anything for ages, the fact that we got to know that she wasn't making an album through a random rem beauty video tutorial is.. shocking. And don't get me wrong she has every right to distance herself from her fans but the bond she had with her fanbase (her being THE celebrity who interacted and followed fans on Twitter, the garage m&gs, hanging with fans, making them listen to her music, always interacting on social media etc) were a big part of her brand and a reason why people connected with her, if you take that out, take the music out and add a lazy beauty brand, nothing good is gonna come out of it, good for her she doesn't care though.
raven Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 54 minutes ago, ariananext said: I don't mind waiting for music either, it's not that in my opinion. 1) The last era (actually the last two) we had despite being great musically we had close to nothing speaking of visuals, performances, interviews, memorable moments, photoshoots etc. 2) She doesn't even know how to be a proper beauty lady, she doesn't do magazine covers, interviews, Vogue videos, the only cute thing we got was that Allure MV looks breakdown. She can't even make a cute TikTok or an Instagram post which wasn't shot 6 months in advance, like every content we got had that same grey background, shot on the same day months ago and recycled 15 times already by her social media manager, and well it's not working. Even the ULTA launch, there wasn't a single fan picture, she took three pictures and a video which were heavily and horribly edited (and which lead to more drags) and called it a day. 3) Speaking of projects she abandoned, Don't Look Up, anybody else would've campaigned hard after getting to know they were in the Oscar talk. She gave us a half assed performance on The Voice of all slots and didn't even bother to attend the Premiere or any of the awards she was up for. 4) She stopped interacting with fans, deleted Twitter, doesn't use TikTok properly/for anything but commercial videos, can't even post on Instagram anymore, her feed is a mess and she hasn't bothered to update her fans about anything for ages, the fact that we got to know that she wasn't making an album through a random rem beauty video tutorial is.. shocking. And don't get me wrong she has every right to distance herself from her fans but the bond she had with her fanbase (her being THE celebrity who interacted and followed fans on Twitter, the garage m&gs, hanging with fans, making them listen to her music, always interacting on social media etc) were a big part of her brand and a reason why people connected with her, if you take that out, take the music out and add a lazy beauty brand, nothing good is gonna come out of it, good for her she doesn't care though. the spill I don't mind waiting either but all she's left us with is half-assed projects and eras.
LightningPH Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, ariananext said: I don't mind waiting for music either, it's not that in my opinion. 1) The last era (actually the last two) we had despite being great musically we had close to nothing speaking of visuals, performances, interviews, memorable moments, photoshoots etc. 2) She doesn't even know how to be a proper beauty lady, she doesn't do magazine covers, interviews, Vogue videos, the only cute thing we got was that Allure MV looks breakdown. She can't even make a cute TikTok or an Instagram post which wasn't shot 6 months in advance, like every content we got had that same grey background, shot on the same day months ago and recycled 15 times already by her social media manager, and well it's not working. Even the ULTA launch, there wasn't a single fan picture, she took three pictures and a video which were heavily and horribly edited (and which lead to more drags) and called it a day. 3) Speaking of projects she abandoned, Don't Look Up, anybody else would've campaigned hard after getting to know they were in the Oscar talk. She gave us a half assed performance on The Voice of all slots and didn't even bother to attend the Premiere or any of the awards she was up for. 4) She stopped interacting with fans, deleted Twitter, doesn't use TikTok properly/for anything but commercial videos, can't even post on Instagram anymore, her feed is a mess and she hasn't bothered to update her fans about anything for ages, the fact that we got to know that she wasn't making an album through a random rem beauty video tutorial is.. shocking. And don't get me wrong she has every right to distance herself from her fans but the bond she had with her fanbase (her being THE celebrity who interacted and followed fans on Twitter, the garage m&gs, hanging with fans, making them listen to her music, always interacting on social media etc) were a big part of her brand and a reason why people connected with her, if you take that out, take the music out and add a lazy beauty brand, nothing good is gonna come out of it, good for her she doesn't care though. Exactly. While her last 2 albums really are great (although TUN is kinda showing it's age), the era itself has no "replayability". There's nothing to look back to or reminisce about them except that they were dropped.
ariananext Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 10 minutes ago, LightningPH said: Exactly. While her last 2 albums really are great (although TUN is kinda showing it's age), the era itself has no "replayability". There's nothing to look back to or reminisce about them except that they were dropped. Yeah, I always go back to Sweetener era content, TUN and Positions gave us almost nothing.
raven Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 She really underestimates how much accompanying visuals, performances, etc. can add to the replay value and enjoyability + enjoyment of music. One of the reasons why I enjoy Dangerous Woman over TUNA despite the latter being objectively better.
Dialamba Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 The thing I don’t like about Ariana isn’t the fact she is inactive it’s how she always ruins a project, idk but she doesn’t seem satisfied about what she’s doing, she does something new then drop after three attempts. She ditched her music career for REM beauty and rem seems half-assed and just quick money grab, she doesn’t do like what Rihanna did with fenty like she managed to build an entire empire that brand. Rem is just another failed makeup brands like every celebrities do. I don’t care if she flops with AG7 she will be humbled a little bit.
worldwide angel Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 if y’all don’t give victoria some streams and quiet down a bit
Tm4074 Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, ariananext said: I don't mind waiting for music either, it's not that in my opinion. 1) The last era (actually the last two) we had despite being great musically we had close to nothing speaking of visuals, performances, interviews, memorable moments, photoshoots etc. 2) She doesn't even know how to be a proper beauty lady, she doesn't do magazine covers, interviews, Vogue videos, the only cute thing we got was that Allure MV looks breakdown. She can't even make a cute TikTok or an Instagram post which wasn't shot 6 months in advance, like every content we got had that same grey background, shot on the same day months ago and recycled 15 times already by her social media manager, and well it's not working. Even the ULTA launch, there wasn't a single fan picture, she took three pictures and a video which were heavily and horribly edited (and which lead to more drags) and called it a day. 3) Speaking of projects she abandoned, Don't Look Up, anybody else would've campaigned hard after getting to know they were in the Oscar talk. She gave us a half assed performance on The Voice of all slots and didn't even bother to attend the Premiere or any of the awards she was up for. 4) She stopped interacting with fans, deleted Twitter, doesn't use TikTok properly/for anything but commercial videos, can't even post on Instagram anymore, her feed is a mess and she hasn't bothered to update her fans about anything for ages, the fact that we got to know that she wasn't making an album through a random rem beauty video tutorial is.. shocking. And don't get me wrong she has every right to distance herself from her fans but the bond she had with her fanbase (her being THE celebrity who interacted and followed fans on Twitter, the garage m&gs, hanging with fans, making them listen to her music, always interacting on social media etc) were a big part of her brand and a reason why people connected with her, if you take that out, take the music out and add a lazy beauty brand, nothing good is gonna come out of it, good for her she doesn't care though. Yeah all of this. Ariana isn't an artist like Beyoncé. She can't disappear from the public consciousness and appear years later to drop music and then peace out again. She is an artist of the social media age and a huge part of her brand is her authenticity and personal connection with fans. That's why TUN era was so massive because of the hype she created by posting regularly (and unfiltered) on social media, the public was filled in on what was going on in her life and they were invested in her story so they listened to the album. I get she wants privacy. I don't blame her but there is balance between the two extremes. I mean I personally don't care that she deleted Twitter and doesn't interact with fans anymore because I never engaged with that anyway but I know it's a huge part of her appeal. If she wants to do the whole Beyoncé thing she better start giving us concept albums with visuals like Lemonade otherwise she can keep it. What pisses me off about Ariana is she has all the skills to succeed. She's likeable, funny, has a diverse set of skills/talents including singing, vocal production, production, audio engineering, editing, writing, comedy, impressions, musical theater, live performing, etc. but she doesn't utilize them to full advantage. She's her own worst enemy sometimes and it's frustrating as a fan because she's capable of more but sabotages herself. I hope that when she returns (if she ever promotes again ) that she finally hosts SNL again now that Pete left. And gets that Emmy nomination she was snubbed for because it was post donutgate and she wasn't as big as she is now.
ariananext Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tm4074 said: Yeah all of this. Ariana isn't an artist like Beyoncé. She can't disappear from the public consciousness and appear years later to drop music and then peace out again. She is an artist of the social media age and a huge part of her brand is her authenticity and personal connection with fans. That's why TUN era was so massive because of the hype she created by posting regularly (and unfiltered) on social media, the public was filled in on what was going on in her life and they were invested in her story so they listened to the album. I get she wants privacy. I don't blame her but there is balance between the two extremes. I mean I personally don't care that she deleted Twitter and doesn't interact with fans anymore because I never engaged with that anyway but I know it's a huge part of her appeal. If she wants to do the whole Beyoncé thing she better start giving us concept albums with visuals like Lemonade otherwise she can keep it. What pisses me off about Ariana is she has all the skills to succeed. She's likeable, funny, has a diverse set of skills/talents including singing, vocal production, production, audio engineering, editing, writing, comedy, impressions, musical theater, live performing, etc. but she doesn't utilize them to full advantage. She's her own worst enemy sometimes and it's frustrating as a fan because she's capable of more but sabotages herself. I hope that when she returns (if she ever promotes again ) that she finally hosts SNL again now that Pete left. And gets that Emmy nomination she was snubbed for because it was post donutgate and she wasn't as big as she is now.
LightningPH Posted May 31, 2022 Posted May 31, 2022 Anyways, I'll be just here listening to the Sweetener le*ks and considering them as new material. It's just to quench my thirst during this drought. More (the version that features Bia) should've been released. Incline thankfully got scrapped and we got Everytime instead. Rush and You are my absolute faves. Jason on Occasion On Top of Everything are fun and cute. I'm still waiting for Not Ok to le*k in full. Other than that, the TUN scrapped songs were really nothing special. I'm still wondering as to how her career would've progressed if Ridiculous' sample got cleared and it became the lead to AG2. It was obvious she wanted to continue and evolve the YT sound with the earlier songs for AG2 like ME, YDKM, Too Close, and Only 1. What's really frustrating is now that she claims she has full control, she barely does anything. Sure, she's miles ahead in vocal producation and vocals alone compared to her peers. However, she does not really showcase them by promotions with live performances. Not everyone appreciates harmonies and layers of vocals. They want iconic performances, iconic vocal moments. Sing, you said you like to sing. That's really the reason people still cling to DW and even ME because they were full-fledged pop eras. Even SWT can already be considered an era before they pulled the plug. --- Not this base becoming an avenue for an essay writing contest
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