Cloröx Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, abrahamjmr said: 30 was the #1 vinyl record in Australia, Canada, France, etc. Yet those numbers still don't tally with IFPI number, someone did overship big time
BrokenMachine Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 14 minutes ago, ElleDriver said: This gigantic BOMB so glad that ppl r finally waking up. At last!! 2M in pure sales in only TWO countries in two months is far away from being a gigantic bomb
BrokenMachine Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Cloröx said: You're indeed correct, those number includes shipments. Here's some dissections : Vinyl sales : Worldwide - 862,000 USA - 318,000 UK - 37,000 Pure sales : Worldwide - 4,680,000 USA - 1,464,000 UK - 502,000 Both markets are Adele's strongest yet she sold like 355,000 vinyl leaving 507,000 vinyl for the rest market. Meanwhile for total pure sales, remaining 2.714M pure sales come the rest markets. For sure there's no way she pull bigger number outside USA and UK which mean the only explanation is OVERSHIPMENT So you're telling me she sold more WW than in the US and the UK? Truly a global legend
Cloröx Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, abrahamjmr said: 30 was the #1 vinyl record in Australia, Canada, France, etc. https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/mrc-data-2021-canadian-year-end-report-1235016050/ 30 sold 10,000 vinyl in Canada. For the record, Canada is bigger music market than Australia then we can assume 30 sold less than 10,000 vinyl in the country. 30 Vinyl sales : Worldwide - 862,000 USA - 318,000 UK - 37,000 France - 30,000? Canada - 10,000 Australia - 10,000 Let say 30 sold 30,000 vinyl in France (there's no way it did better in France than UK), bringing total vinyl sales in five major market to 405k so where the hell those remaining 457k come from...???? Edited March 23, 2022 by Cloröx
BrokenMachine Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 55 minutes ago, Cloröx said: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/mrc-data-2021-canadian-year-end-report-1235016050/ 30 sold 11,000 vinyl in Canada. For the record, Canada is bigger music market than Australia then we can assume 30 sold less than 10,000 vinyl in the country. 30 Vinyl sales : Worldwide - 862,000 USA - 318,000 UK - 37,000 France - 30,000? Canada - 11,000 Australia - 10,000 Let say 30 sold 30,000 vinyl in France (there's no way it did better in France than UK), bringing total vinyl sales in five major market to 406k so where the hell those remaining 456k come from...????
OrgVisual Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 7 hours ago, ElleDriver said: This gigantic BOMB so glad that ppl r finally waking up. At last!! BOMB? She sold >350k vinyl in just 2 countries alone, more than what most other artists sold WW in the whole year Adele: US + UK = 355k Harry with the #2 best selling vinyl album of the year: 397k worldwide Y'll thought u did something with those numbers Even with "overshipment", 30 is still the best-selling vinyl album of the year in just 6 weeks
abrahamjmr Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Cloröx said: https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/mrc-data-2021-canadian-year-end-report-1235016050/ 30 sold 10,000 vinyl in Canada. For the record, Canada is bigger music market than Australia then we can assume 30 sold less than 10,000 vinyl in the country. 30 Vinyl sales : Worldwide - 862,000 USA - 318,000 UK - 37,000 France - 30,000? Canada - 10,000 Australia - 10,000 Let say 30 sold 30,000 vinyl in France (there's no way it did better in France than UK), bringing total vinyl sales in five major market to 405k so where the hell those remaining 457k come from...???? Let’s ignore the other markets where she was #1 as well. Your obsession is real. So you’re saying that IFPI is lying?
Cloröx Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 20 minutes ago, abrahamjmr said: Let’s ignore the other markets where she was #1 as well. Your obsession is real. So you’re saying that IFPI is lying? IFPI includes shipments tho where have you been it's common knowledge
abrahamjmr Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Cloröx said: IFPI includes shipments tho where have you been it's common knowledge But you were only breaking your heels to post 30’s numbers in the US and UK.
OrgVisual Posted March 23, 2022 Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Cloröx said: IFPI includes shipments tho where have you been it's common knowledge Are we pretending that 30 is still not the best selling album & vinyl of the year even without the assumed "shipment"?
Cloröx Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 9 hours ago, abrahamjmr said: But you were only breaking your heels to post 30’s numbers in the US and UK. Because those two are her strongest market, if combined stats from both market simply can't tally with IFPI report then it's pretty clear she overshipped 30. 8 hours ago, Sept said: Are we pretending that 30 is still not the best selling album & vinyl of the year even without the assumed "shipment"? Who said she wasn't #1? The main point is 30 was overshipped so rumor that the album are massively unsold and collecting dust are indeed true My estimation she has like 1.5M - 2.0M unsold CDs/vinyl
Elusive Chanteuse Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Sept said: Are we pretending that 30 is still not the best selling album & vinyl of the year even without the assumed "shipment"? It’s pointless, they need some sort of hobby.
abrahamjmr Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, Cloröx said: Because those two are her strongest market, if combined stats from both market simply can't tally with IFPI report then it's pretty clear she overshipped 30. Not you using the word "overshipped" again when more than 50% of those shipments were sold in 2021 and the album is still selling well to date in that department. The mental gymnastics some Swifties go to belittle Adele and her success. We know it's been a tough week to y'all.
Cloröx Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, abrahamjmr said: Not you using the word "overshipped" again when more than 50% of those shipments were sold in 2021 and the album is still selling well to date in that department. The mental gymnastics some Swifties go to belittle Adele and her success. We know it's been a tough week to y'all. Like I said earlier, it has been estimated that 1.5M - 2.0M of CDs/vinyl remain unsold. Last week 30 pulled 4,700 pure sales (including digital downloads) in the USA, she most likely did less in UK for sure. That being said 30 is pulling like 8,000 - 10,0000 physical sales right now worldwide (highest estimation). At this rate, she needs at least another 150 weeks (almost 3 years) to sell those remaining unsold CDs/vinyl and this is based on generous estimation without considering the future degradation in sales
abrahamjmr Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Cloröx said: Like I said earlier, it has been estimated that 1.5M - 2.0M of CDs/vinyl remain unsold It has been estimated by you?
Cloröx Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 Just now, abrahamjmr said: It has been estimated by you? You are welcome to debunk it, we all waiting for the receipt. I've proven sources and receipts suggesting that 30 has been overly shipped
abrahamjmr Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Cloröx said: You are welcome to debunk it, we all waiting for the receipt. I've proven sources and receipts suggesting that 30 has been overly shipped The reports from 2021 suggest the album sold more than 2,7 million copies pure worldwide in its first six weeks. And that's from markets such as US, Canada, UK, France, Australia and Germany. I'm pretty sure IFPI counts/tracks sales from way more countries than that. But you can continue screaming here it was overshipped if it makes you sleep at night. And don't forget we're three months into 2022 and the album has continued to sell. Edited March 24, 2022 by abrahamjmr
Cloröx Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, abrahamjmr said: The reports from 2021 suggest the album sold more than 2,7 million copies pure worldwide in its first six weeks. And that's from markets such as US, Canada, UK, France, Australia and Germany. I'm pretty sure IFPI counts/tracks sales from way more countries than that. But you can continue screaming here it was overshipped if it makes you sleep at night. And don't forget we're three months into 2022 and the album has continued to sell. You mean IFPI reports that includes shipments? MRC and OOC data that tracking the sales suggesting the opposite And like I said earlier, 30 is pulling 10k pure sales at most and the number is dropping by weeks, she will take years to sell those remaining albums
sadnews Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 clorox is right. the album is over shipped. those huge amounts of CDs.. will be returned to Columbia later.
TaylenaStan Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 Why are people calling everyone obsessed who simply points out that these are not real sales?? its literally the ******* truth hello? OT: It probably sold like 2.5-3M pure WW which is still HUGE for 2021.
RobynYoBank Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 I believe it. The shelves at Target are still overflowing. Congrats to Miss Adkins in her payday.
popmusic Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 I don't believe that ATRLers doens't know the difference between wholesale and retail sales
abrahamjmr Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 13 hours ago, Cloröx said: You mean IFPI reports that includes shipments? MRC and OOC data that tracking the sales suggesting the opposite And like I said earlier, 30 is pulling 10k pure sales at most and the number is dropping by weeks, she will take years to sell those remaining albums Those albums are not all in stores. Distributors send them as they continue selling. The album started selling less than 10k in the US like three weeks ago. Are you implying it's been selling 10k worldwide since 2022 started? 4 hours ago, RobynYoBank said: I believe it. The shelves at Target are still overflowing. Congrats to Miss Adkins in her payday. Is that so? I've visited two Targets this week and there were barely any 30 CDs and vinyls. You want to post the fake picture Swifties have been sharing here and on Twitter? 19 minutes ago, popmusic said: I don't believe that ATRLers doens't know the difference between wholesale and retail sales They probably think the 5 million copies were sent to all retailers at once.
Rami Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 That's really impressive, again on a league of her own, no one can really do it like her.
bocelli Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 Her decline... Imagine going from 20M to 5M in the span of one era...
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