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3 minutes ago, GhostBox said:

She was talking about gangs. Which is 100% true. They are scum. No matter what their race is. 

And there solution was to mass incarcerate people instead of fixing the socioeconomic conditions as a result of systemic racism that created gangs:coffee2:

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29 minutes ago, rihannabiggestfan said:

Latinos said ENOUGH with Blue MAGA Biden

 

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And isn't it funny that the strategy that Trump used to gain Latinos in Florida was that Biden was a socialist when Sanders is x10 times the socialist Biden is.

 

And it worked.

 

Really makes you think about the basic knowledge of politics that the average American has. :rip: 

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And isn't it funny that the strategy that Trump used to gain Latinos was that Biden was a socialist when Sanders is x10 times the socialist Biden is.

 

Really makes you think about the basic knowledge of politics that the average American has. :rip: 

Really... :coffee2: Bernie's biggest approvals came from the latino community. Let's not.

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2 minutes ago, Armani👑 said:

And there solution was to mass incarcerate people instead of fixing the socioeconomic conditions as a result of systemic racism that created gangs:coffee2:

I’m not saying the solution was right. I’m just saying her specific comments you referred to were not wrong. 

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6 minutes ago, igninton said:

And isn't it funny that the strategy that Trump used to gain Latinos was that Biden was a socialist when Sanders is x10 times the socialist Biden is.

 

Really makes you think about the basic knowledge of politics that the average American has. :rip: 

It basically lowkey double-poisons Biden's well that he wants to appeal to the generations of imported white Latino migrants who the US explicitly took in as a means of anti-communism policy, but yet these people will never vote for him/Dems, while the majority of Latinos who fall outside of that anti-communism hub also don't like Biden because he's anti-populism and that's why they liked Bernie's socialism. :skull:

 

Political "strategists" have tried to place Latinos as a "conservative" racial group yet have largely misread segments of religiousness and personal conservatism, missing out on the huge economic interests of them as a group. Most Latino voters in 2020 cited universal healthcare and free college as top priorities for America.

 

Add on Biden's hostile rhetoric to Latinos and defense of his 8 years attached to the "Deporter-in-Chief" administration and it's.. whew.

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3 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

Really... :coffee2: Bernie's biggest approvals came from the latino community. Let's not.

I mean it’s true. The trump team beatBiden up with socialist ads in FL (linking him to Bernie) and it worked like a dream. Even though he’s far from one. Lol Imagine having your candidate openly saying he’s one. That wouldn’t have  helped 

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6 minutes ago, Mean Trees said:

Really... :coffee2: Bernie's biggest approvals came from the latino community. Let's not.

Didn't Biden win the Democratic primaries in Florida by a landslide? :celestial3:

Something doesn't add up.

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This is not shocking to me, everyone in my family hates Biden and pretty much everyone in my little community too. They’re not republicans by any means but they’re not a fan of the inaction that Biden is portraying. I know specifically at my local Catholic Church (entirely Latino for the most part), one thing people are particularly annoyed about is the lack of assistance for COVID and how social programs are mostly being ignored. It’s been interesting to hear why different people dislike Biden but that’s been one argument I’ve heard a lot in discussions at my church.
 

I can’t blame them. He’s probably one of the lamest presidents we’ve had… ever. 

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4 minutes ago, igninton said:

Didn't Biden win the Democratic primaries in Florida by a landslide? :celestial3:

Something doesn't add up.

Yeah, Cubans are typically more conservative than other Latino groups and so them hearing Bernie was a socialist will have more impact on their votes than Latinos in Nevada/California (both states Bernie won). 
 

Latinos are not a monolith, please don’t refer to us as such. 

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Not another thread turning into Biden's supporters yelling "BUT BERNIE!!" to deflect from Joe's failures. :deadbanana4:

 

12 minutes ago, igninton said:

Didn't Biden win the Democratic primaries in Florida by a landslide? :celestial3:

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These are the states with the largest Hispanic populations. Bernie won Latinos in the ones shaded blue, Biden in red, and they tied in grey. :skull:

 

Edit - If you also try to act pedantic about cutting off #8-10, #8 is Colorado, which Bernie won because he won the non-white vote in the state by 20 points, while #9 and #10 are NJ and NY, who like #1 and #2 held their primaries when there was only one candidate left. Florida was literally the only major Latino state Biden won. :skull:

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1 minute ago, Relampago. said:

Yeah, Cubans are typically more conservative than other Latino groups and so them hearing Bernie was a socialist will have more impact on their votes than Latinos in Nevada/California (both states Bernie won). 
 

Latinos are not a monolith, please don’t refer to us as such. 

Who referred to Latinos as a monolith? This thread is to discuss why Biden is unpopular amongst Latinos and one of the big reasons is Trump's campaign painting him out as a socialist who wanted to bring communism into America (as if).

 

I never implied that Latinos didn't vote for Bernie to some extent in California and Nevada, I was mentioning about how he lost in Florida by a landslide.

 

And Cubans are not the only nationality against socialists-communists, Venezuela, Chile, Nicaragua and even Argentina lately are too to some extent so for you to say "it was only because of the Cuban vote" is a misinformed and actually more of a narrow-minded comment than what you initially thought I said. :rip: 

 

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11 minutes ago, Communion said:

Not another thread turning into Biden's supporters yelling "BUT BERNIE!!" to deflect from Joe's failures. :deadbanana4:

 

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These are the states with the largest Hispanic populations. Bernie won Latinos in the ones shaded blue, Biden in red, and they tied in grey. :skull:

 

Edit - If you also try to act pedantic about cutting off #8-10, #8 is Colorado, which Bernie won because he won the non-white vote in the state by 20 points, while #9 and #10 are NJ and NY, who like #1 and #2 held their primaries when there was only one candidate left. Florida was literally the only major Latino state Biden won. :skull:

Okay, and he lost all three of those states in 2016 when it was him against Hilary, so what is your point exactly? :toofunny3:

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6 minutes ago, igninton said:

Who referred to Latinos as a monolith? This thread is to discuss why Biden is unpopular amongst Latinos and one of the big reasons is Trump's campaign painting him out as a socialist who wanted to bring communism into America (as if).

 

I never implied that Latinos didn't vote for Bernie to some extent in California and Nevada, I was mentioning about how he lost in Florida by a landslide.

 

And Cubans are not the only nationality against socialists-communists, Venezuela, Chile, Nicaragua and even Argentina lately are too to some extent so for you to say "it was only because of the Cuban vote" is a misinformed and actually more of a narrow-minded comment than what you initially thought I said. :rip: 

 

Of course there are other Latino identities in the US, but the vast majority in Florida are Cuban (they make up about 1/3rd of the Florida Latino population). If we want to nitpick, I never said it was only because of the Cuban vote, only that Cubans contributed to Biden’s victory in x way that other Latinos  didn’t for x reason. 
 

Please don’t paint me out to be some ignorant person, my fiancé is a Cuban immigrant and I’m well aware of how this shapes their perspective of certain candidates, especially when these thoughts are not my own observations, but observations from within their own community. 
 

However, implying that Biden winning Florida means that all Latinos must like him despite other states proving otherwise is not only a misrepresentation of the situation, but actually implying Latinos are a monolith to you. You’ve been shown otherwise so I would avoid making inflammatory comments like that because it’s an extremely common stereotype to refer to Latinos as such, when we really couldn’t be more different. 
 

2 minutes ago, igninton said:

Okay, and he lost all three of those states in 2016 when it was him against Hilary, so what is your point exactly? :toofunny3:

I don’t think Bernie was popular with Latinos at this point? Which would make sense because as he became a more prominent political figure in US politics, they seemed to gravitate towards him and his ideas. Seems like opinions change over time to me, and 2020 primaries would probably be more relevant to this conversation. 
 

Besides, Hillary lost to Trump so idk why we’d bring her up anyways.
 

 

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11 minutes ago, igninton said:

Okay, and he lost all three of those states in 2016 when it was him against Hilary

You realize this is evidence that "Hispanics hate socialism" is easily debunked then, yes? Because it showed that the more they became familiar with Sanders as a national figure, they overwhelmingly supported him, yes? :deadbanana4: Sanders' position with Hispanics radically improved the more they got to know him - for Biden, it's only gone worse. :skull:

 

Some of you are really invested in sidelining 80% of Hispanic voters for the qualms of white Cubans, who over 70% live in just one state. :deadbanana4: As well, there are only, for example, around ~150k Chilean-Americans in the US versus 36M Mexican-Americans.

 

I'm not sure if you're making the claim successfully that those 150k Chilean-Americans possibly hating Sanders better represents the pulse of Hispanic voters than overwhelmingly positive views of Sanders - but more important: economic populism like M4A and Tuition-Free College - held by most Mexican-Americans.

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The midterms are going to be horrifying. I’m making my exit plan already at this rate, we’re not going anywhere better from here. 

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1 hour ago, hurricane326 said:

I doubt it. If Trump is the nominee for 2024 he'll go batshit insane over every poll number, he'll direct his supporters to commit terrorist attacks, and if he doesn't end up in jail he'll lose because no one new will want to join his base

I’ve noticed a lot of Dems are telling themselves this… almost like 2016 and the past 5 years never happened

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1 hour ago, hurricane326 said:

Yes because Latinos, Independents, and Millennials make up the majority of registered voters. If Sanders was the nominee we'd still have Trump. Can't believe people don't understand this

Sanders stans are delusional he would have tanked on the electoral map.

 

Biden was the only one of those candidates that would have won but he is flopping as POTUS

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The Bernie conversation :skull:

 

 

Biden won, it’s over.  I’m sick of litigating the 2020 (and 2016!) elections. Biden is unpopular with Latinos the same reason he’s unpopular with most demographics: he isn’t delivering anything for them.  

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17 minutes ago, madonnas said:

The Bernie conversation :skull:

 

 

Biden won, it’s over.  I’m sick of litigating the 2020 (and 2016!) elections. Biden is unpopular with Latinos the same reason he’s unpopular with most demographics: he isn’t delivering anything for them.  

The fact that college grads are the sole demographic he's largely been able to keep himself above water with and, when presented with a direct line to give them a proposal win to boost morale, he goes "I wish I would, but I'm personally morally against people not paying their debts" njkjnjfjdkfnvd :deadbanana4: Sis, do something! Throw anyone a bone!!! Send out another check! Quickly!

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LOSER!

 

Midterms are about to be a bloodbath, but that’s probably what the Dems want since they can use Republicans as an excuse why “nothing gets done” despite controlling everything right now and still not getting shit done :laugh:

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Obviously Biden has problems with Latinos and eroding poll numbers in general, but I don’t fully trust monolithic “Latinos say ______” polling because of the race/ethnicity thing and just the variance in different nationalities’ interests. Anecdotally I know or have met Puerto Rican and Salvadoran socialists, Mexican social conservative/fiscal liberals, Cuban conservatives, etc. Breaking that down more would give a fuller picture.

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