Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Hypotheticals dont count when it comes to quantifying what is and what isnt a hit. Good, then let's use objective data where ATW is consistently been streaming incredibly well, aka the most important metric in today's music climate
WildHeart Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 15 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Please point out to me where I said anything negative or derogatory about the streams of All too well. Why did you quote my post which was praising ATW's success then?
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 8 minutes ago, Headlock said: Good, then let's use objective data where ATW is consistently been streaming incredibly well, aka the most important metric in today's music climate Not enough to keep it stable on the hot 100 unfortunately, which blends the three components of sales, streaming AND radio. Cute that Taylor is doing decent numbers on one of those three.
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Why did you quote my post which was praising ATW's success then? Because you were making a big thing of it being a decade old song as if it hasnt been promoted like a brand new lead single, with all the things I mentioned. That doesnt mean I said anything bad about its streams, because i havent. Its streaming is very good and in fact I was very impressed by how Red TV has performed. Amazing first week.
WildHeart Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Virtual_Insanity said: Because you were making a big thing of it being a decade old song as if it hasnt been promoted like a brand new lead single, with all the things I mentioned. That doesnt mean I said anything bad about its streams, because i havent. Its streaming is very good and in fact I was very impressed by how Red TV has performed. Amazing first week. Yes it is being decade old song's new version(which people already heard 60% of it countless times in the past) and being 10 minute song is a huge deal regardless of its promo. You know, both things can be true at once.
family.guy123 Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 43 minutes ago, Headlock said: Tell me you missed the point without telling me you missed the point What’s the point
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Not enough to keep it stable on the hot 100 unfortunately, which blends the three components of sales, streaming AND radio. Cute that Taylor is doing decent numbers on one of those three. Yes, the most important of the three And she hasn’t even sent the song to radio, saying she isn’t “doing decently” in a metric that isn’t a part of the conversation is just nonsense.
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, family.guy123 said: What’s the point That the song wasn’t sent to radio, and is only not in the top 10 because of that, since it’s out streaming everything on the top 10 but EOM
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Headlock said: Yes, the most important of the three And she hasn’t even sent the song to radio, saying she isn’t “doing decently” in a metric that isn’t a part of the conversation is just nonsense. Except it is part of the conversation when talking about the hot 100, that uses airplay to produce its chart. Not my problem if she didnt send the song to radio.
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Except it is part of the conversation when talking about the hot 100, that uses airplay to produce its chart. Not my problem if she didnt send the song to radio. Obviously, and it’s what all the non-Christmas songs aside from EOM have in common as to why they’re still top 10
Hot Volcano Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 57 minutes ago, Headlock said: Indeed, KatyKat. That's kind of the fucking point You also forgot to mention it's ten fucking minutes long we are not talking about I Knew You Were Trouble - one of her biggest hits that everyone knows, we are talking about some unknown album track that 90% of the people are hearing about NOW, in 2021
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: we are not talking about I Knew You Were Trouble - one of her biggest hits that everyone knows, we are talking about some unknown album track that 90% of the people are hearing about NOW, in 2021 Exactly
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: we are not talking about I Knew You Were Trouble - one of her biggest hits that everyone knows, we are talking about some unknown album track that 90% of the people are hearing about NOW, in 2021 Yes, we all know how artists re-release 10 minute long album tracks from a decade ago and they just fly up the charts Seriously, just go away and talk about HoG or something.
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Exactly Can’t wait for Circle The Drain 10 Minute Version to smash
Hot Volcano Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Headlock said: Yes, we all know how artists re-release 10 minute long album tracks from a decade ago and they just fly up the charts Seriously, just go away and talk about HoG or something. she never re-released the 10 minute version, we are hearing that version for the first time ever There is a whole controversy involving Jake Gyllenhaal, high budget short film released starring Taylor Swift with a big highly promoted premiere. Also, stop acting like everyone is stremaing the song for 10 minutes, Spotify counts it as a stream after 30 seconds
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 9 minutes ago, Headlock said: Can’t wait for Circle The Drain 10 Minute Version to smash Wow you must be a KatyKat hiding behind Taylor. You know all her deep cuts. Just stop.
Virtual_Insanity Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 6 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: she never re-released the 10 minute version, we are hearing that version for the first time ever There is a whole controversy involving Jake Gyllenhaal, high budget short film released starring Taylor Swift with a big highly promoted premiere. Also, stop acting like everyone is stremaing the song for 10 minutes, Spotify counts it as a stream after 30 seconds Exactly. And a lot of those spam streams are removed by Billboard which explains the freefalling.
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hot Volcano said: she never re-released the 10 minute version, we are hearing that version for the first time ever Ah yes, my mistake, everyone knows how artists re-release decade old album tracks, extend them to 10 minutes, and then they just fly up the charts 3 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: There is a whole controversy involving Jake Gyllenhaal, high budget short film released starring Taylor Swift with a big highly promoted premiere. Also, stop acting like everyone is stremaing the song for 10 minutes, Spotify counts it as a stream after 30 seconds First it’s only Taylor fans listening, then it’s people skipping the song after 30 seconds Just stop. ATW has done objectively well. You think Gaga would go #1 with a 10 minute version of anything off Born This Way
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Virtual_Insanity said: Exactly. And a lot of those spam streams are removed by Billboard which explains the freefalling. Her filtered streams are almost identical, stop lying
Hot Volcano Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 Just now, Headlock said: Just stop. ATW has done objectively well. You think Gaga would go #1 with a 10 minute version of anything off Born This Way Well, had she dated one of the biggest and most popular actors in 2011, dedicated a song to him then re-released a new version of that song now with a highly promoted short film and massive promotion, maybe
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 2 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Wow you must be a KatyKat hiding behind Taylor. You know all her deep cuts. Just stop. Google is free What about Legendary Lovers 10 Minute version. Really… any song. Which one do you think would go #1? Top 10? Chart… at all?
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 1 minute ago, Hot Volcano said: Well, had she dated one of the biggest and most popular actors in 2011, dedicated a song to him then re-released a new version of that song now with a highly promoted short film and massive promotion, maybe I’m fully calling bullshit, you don’t even believe this
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Well, had she dated one of the biggest and most popular actors in 2011, dedicated a song to him then re-released a new version of that song now with a highly promoted short film and massive promotion, maybe Also I’m screaming at you pulling a #ThankYouJake when you monsters foam at the mouth when anyone mentions Bradley Cooper next to Shallow
Headlock Posted December 7, 2021 Posted December 7, 2021 A Monster and a KatyKat trying to come for Taylor, y’all really have lost your minds
Sinister Posted December 8, 2021 Posted December 8, 2021 I really thought BTS song with Coldplay would’ve done a lot better
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