UnusualBoy Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 In other news, with this projection, Red TV will be close to 800k, it should be passing the million mark this year so it's another platinum album for Taylor
fridayteenage Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: 158k of SEA and TEA? C'mon, she will for sure pull 200k of that. bb said first 3 days were 75k, average 25k a day. 25k*7=175k, and generally the first day is the strongest. the sea/tea would have to fly up to get to your goal.
simmnfierzig Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 This thread Obviously Taylor had the much bigger career so far in the US. Adele made the choice to have so few albums. She even is over a year older than Taylor, so its not some unfair comparison And we have no idea how it would look like if Taylor released less often or Adele more often (if she could write that much music), we can only go with what we actually have
georgechxng Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: but somehow you are trying to drag Folklore's numbers with nonsencial excuses as if it wasn’t available in Targets and Walmarts due to global pandemic which was a huge disadvantage in its case. I'm gonna stop talking here cause I'm tired of swifties twisting my words around I literally called Folklore "the perfect storm" for her. How am I dragging the numbers? I just said it sounds weird to criticize someone for pulling off numbers that y'all declared were enough to make your fav have her third peak
KeshaSwift Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 29 minutes ago, georgechxng said: She did have signed CDs both in the US and the UK and I wouldn't say that a +220k difference is "small" Folklore was the perfect storm for Taylor in terms of hype + new content (although RedTV also had similar hype with the Jake Gyllenhall drama + ATW) and even then, she wouldn't have done over 800k if it wasn't for bundles. I truly don't see her doing over +650k in pure sales and 800k overall for TS10 unless something big happens like her and Joe breaking up and the album revolving around that. I don't know, it's just weird that swifties will claim that Folklore is Taylor's third "peak" and yet are dragging Adele for her numbers when she will likely outsell and outstream it at the end of the day. You thinking Taylor can only sell due to cheap breakup rumors and tabloid gossip is incredibly misogynistic and tired. Especially when she broke that idiotic idea years ago with the enormous success of Lover and folklore. About TS10 not selling 650k pure sales - obviously the chances for that to happen are low since the album won’t come out until at least a year from now and sales are generally decreasing day to day - but we know she’ll still serve some huge numbers. Not one serious, logical swiftie in this thread is actually ‘dragging’ Adele - she’s a powerhouse for sure. But its undeniable that her power has somewhat faded from being astronomical to very successful, which is fine and makes sense since her previous albums are once in generation type of peaks. Again, No one is saying Adele isn’t a force anymore - its just that her album sales came down to earth whatsoever, and can be somewhat compared to Taylor right now - which wasn’t the situation with 21 and 25 obviously. If I were you I’d show some respect for Taylor Swift for her huge achievements and hustle for over 16 years now - which we all know is very rare for a female artist to achieve. - Overall good numbers.
VenusFly Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, georgechxng said: Again, learn how to read I never said any of that, LOL. y'all need to stop twisting stuff to play the victim. You need to stop spending so much time and energy in criticizing someone you dislike, maybe you’d stop making terrible points OT: great numbers for Adele, she’s so genuine and fun, definitely deserved
WildHeart Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Gaia said: The difference is Taylor makes her music about well known men and makes it very obvious it’s about them + dramatizes it. Adele makes her music about unknown men to the public and doesn’t make that the center of her era. The fact that people can name like 4-5 of Taylor’s Exs isn’t a good thing. Hardly anyone knows who Adele has dated or married She did 30 numbers with Folklore and it wasn’t about her ex, not even her current boyfriend so stop with this misogynistic point of view. You are not making the point you think you are doing. 8 minutes ago, georgechxng said: I'm gonna stop talking here cause I'm tired of swifties twisting my words around I literally called Folklore "the perfect storm" for her. How am I dragging the numbers? I just said it sounds weird to criticize someone for pulling off numbers that y'all declared were enough to make your fav have her third peak Because you are claiming that Folklore sold good thanks to multiple versions and Red TV sold well thanks to drama? Also what makes you think her new album won't have the same "perfect storm" when she had the same thing with... Reputation, Lover, Folklore and now Red TV since all of them did huge numbers. It is a casual thing for her at this point. Edited November 23, 2021 by Artistofthedecade
Sander Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Not sure how to feel about Adele's numbers. I mean, she's having the biggest debut of the year and that alone speaks volumes... but they def feel underwhelming for her standards.
PopFan1996 Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Saying Taylor is bigger than Adele in the US just because she has more albums makes no sense. The best way to compare is to compare in a mathematical and fair way. Basically to put their four biggest eras against each other ( when 30 will finish it's rollout) Pretty sure at the end it'll be Adele > Taylor. No matter what If you gonna assume " If Adele released a lot of albums she wouldn't be as big" then they're just imaginary assumptions with 0 proofs. The only way to prove which one is bigger right now is to compare with what we have. What we know for now, is whenever Adele releases an album since 21, it turns out to be bigger than Taylor's albums in the long run. Factually. It's about to be her 4th album that will do that, once again.
UnusualBoy Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, Paranoid Android said: It's a double album. It should be platinum this week 30 is the biggest debut since folklore which is the biggest debut since lover which is the biggest debut since reputation which is the biggest debut since 25. No men allowed, so let's celebrate that Oh wait, I didn't know it was a double album , then it should be 2x platinum by this year ends, amazing!!!
By the Water Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 50 minutes ago, Yog said: This, I’m quite sick of the BS drama Quite a different energy from last week
Virtual_Insanity Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 19 hours ago, Gaia said: And why are you guys acting like Taylor just released the album and it’s selling solely based on the music homegirl has been EVERYWHERE talking about how SB STOLE her music and how this is taking her power back so everyone should buy TV as an FU to SB and the people who screwed her over and releasing like 10 versions of the album And now she resorted to reigniting rumors about a decade old relationship that last 3 months with an A-list actor. Adele just needs to release her music All this tea. OT - Excellent numbers for Adele, the music industry way ahead of the rest as usual.
Cap10Planet Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) It's funny how Adele and Taylor alternate for the top selling albums of the year. I guess the comparison makes sense. While people are so anxious to pit them against each other and hope for their downfalls, they are still top two females artists of this generation. Remember when people thought it was going to be Katy or Lady Gaga? Edited November 23, 2021 by Cap10Planet
PopFan1996 Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 1 minute ago, Virtual_Insanity said: OT - Excellent numbers for Adele, the music industry way ahead of the rest as usual. And EFFORTLESSLY
Virtual_Insanity Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: She did 30 numbers with Folklore and it wasn’t about her ex, not even her current boyfriend so stop with this misogynistic point of view. You are not making the point you think you are doing. Because you are claiming that Folklore sold good thanks to multiple versions and Red TV sold well thanks to drama? Also what makes you think her new album won't have the same "perfect storm" when she had the same thing with... Reputation, Lover, Folklore and now Red TV since all of them did huge numbers. It is a casual thing for her at this point. Folklore had 16 plus versions counting towards its first week. Did she have cassettes also ?
georgechxng Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Artistofthedecade said: Also what makes you think her new album won't have the same "perfect storm" when she had the same thing with... Reputation, Lover, Folklore and now Red TV since all of them did huge numbers. It is a casual thing for her at this point. Reputation is perhaps the +1M debut seller with the worst legs of music history.
Yog Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, By the Water said: Quite a different energy from last week Again.. because you guys keep trying it, and I’m tired of it
Ivan_brit Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 675k Pure sales that's massive!!! Adele having no Mercy! Silk Sonic holding pretty well at week #2
By the Water Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said: Saying Taylor is bigger than Adele in the US just because she has more albums makes no sense. The best way to compare is to compare in a mathematical and fair way. Basically to put their four biggest eras against each other ( when 30 will finish it's rollout) Pretty sure at the end it'll be Adele > Taylor. No matter what If you gonna assume " If Adele released a lot of albums she wouldn't be as big" then they're just imaginary assumptions with 0 proofs. The only way to prove which one is bigger right now is to compare with what we have. What we know for now, is whenever Adele releases an album since 21, it turns out to be bigger than Taylor's albums in the long run. Factually. It's about to be her 4th album that will do that, once again. Maintaining a certain level of success album after album is not an easy feat as we can see here. No one thinks Shania Twain is bigger than Madonna in the US despite the former having 3 diamond albums, including a double diamond one
brainmaniac Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Folklore having a higher first week number than 30 is a bit surprising, but given how underwhelming 30 is, it’s not shocking
wastedpotential Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, georgechxng said: Reputation is perhaps the +1M debut seller with the worst legs of music history. Not when Born This Way exists And even then, I'm doubtful that 30 will have strong legs considering that 25 fell off the chart before making it to 200 weeks. Edited November 23, 2021 by wastedpotential
Cloröx Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Red TV second week still bigger than majority artists I-
WildHeart Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said: Saying Taylor is bigger than Adele in the US just because she has more albums makes no sense. The best way to compare is to compare in a mathematical and fair way. Basically to put their four biggest eras against each other ( when 30 will finish it's rollout) Pretty sure at the end it'll be Adele > Taylor. No matter what If you gonna assume " If Adele released a lot of albums she wouldn't be as big" then they're just imaginary assumptions with 0 proofs. The only way to prove which one is bigger right now is to compare with what we have. What we know for now, is whenever Adele releases an album since 21, it turns out to be bigger than Taylor's albums in the long run. Factually. It's about to be her 4th album that will do that, once again. 19 +21 + 25 - ~30M Units Fearless + Red + 1989 - ~30M Units 10 minutes ago, Virtual_Insanity said: Folklore had 16 plus versions counting towards its first week. Did she have cassettes also ? It has 1 version with "different covers". Btw, you were saying that Adele will debut with 1M+ with no doubt, why do you think it didn't happen? 8 minutes ago, georgechxng said: Reputation is perhaps the +1M debut seller with the worst legs of music history. The album that charted only 26 weeks less than 25? I wonder what that makes 25 as a +3M debut seller
Cloröx Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 14 minutes ago, PopFan1996 said: Saying Taylor is bigger than Adele in the US just because she has more albums makes no sense. The best way to compare is to compare in a mathematical and fair way. Basically to put their four biggest eras against each other ( when 30 will finish it's rollout) Pretty sure at the end it'll be Adele > Taylor. No matter what If you gonna assume " If Adele released a lot of albums she wouldn't be as big" then they're just imaginary assumptions with 0 proofs. The only way to prove which one is bigger right now is to compare with what we have. What we know for now, is whenever Adele releases an album since 21, it turns out to be bigger than Taylor's albums in the long run. Factually. It's about to be her 4th album that will do that, once again. You and your delusional think, I remembered you said that Adele will crush Taylor in streaming for months yet it just took two days for Taylor to dethrone her on Spotify. Now let see if Adele can beat Taylor on IFPI global recording artists as your claimed before
CaptainMusic Posted November 23, 2021 Posted November 23, 2021 Less than Folklore Swifties will never shut up about this.
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