Holiest Dreams Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 43 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: Yikes... I really need to understand why Taylor still needs so much validation through the charts that she pulls out tricks to manipulate them, it's honestly gotten pathetic What are you talking about? She was extremely close to the #1 and had signed 75K CDs, plus selling 80-100K vinyls. She had every right to do a last minute push for the #1 What’s actually desperate is y’all trying to make this into something it’s not Also Taylor and Olivia have about the same units basically but Taylor’s comes mostly from pure sales which is more valuable + generates far more revenue than streams. She got it fair and square and no last minute push (which was well within her right??) will change that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 22 minutes ago, Orsay said: the daenerys of pop wins again that girlie was queen for like a few hours before she got booted, so no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Erghhhhh Swifties win once again Inb4 it's #2 on BB200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drivers license Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 some of the physical numbers of these albums Taylor doing 178k is crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
family.guy123 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Strategic shipping of physical albums is kind of sleazy. They should only count the sales made during the first week of pre-order for this week. Then next week add on the sales ordered in week 2 etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baby Judas Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 The kii if evermore freefalls to below #50 after this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holiest Dreams Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, family.guy123 said: Strategic shipping of physical albums is kind of sleazy. They should only count the sales made during the first week of pre-order for this week. Then next week add on the sales ordered in week 2 etc etc Well this isn’t a Taylor issue, it’s a Billboard issue. The way sales count now are their own rules (only when they ship out). Take it up with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillingYourCareer Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 14 minutes ago, Holiest Dreams said: What are you talking about? She was extremely close to the #1 and had signed 75K CDs, plus selling 80-100K vinyls. She had every right to do a last minute push for the #1 What’s actually desperate is y’all trying to make this into something it’s not Also Taylor and Olivia have about the same units basically but Taylor’s comes mostly from pure sales which is more valuable + generates far more revenue than streams. She got it fair and square and no last minute push (which was well within her right??) will change that As someone else put it, strategic shipping IS desperate. And it does come off as her still seeking validation through the charts, which would be sad if true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Taylor Super impressive drop for Olivia, she’ll surely return to #1 next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drivers license Posted June 4, 2021 Author Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Baby Judas said: The kii if evermore freefalls to below #50 after this one. the good sis joining willow's legacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 23 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: As someone else put it, strategic shipping IS desperate. And it does come off as her still seeking validation through the charts, which would be sad if true The shipping in one bulk is Billboard’s new rule, take that up with them Edited June 4, 2021 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Ivan_brit said: I know I totally belive on those +100k vinyl think, she always do good at pure sales, I need them to investigate those digital sales from yesterday Why, it was already close before them, that’s the entire reason Taylor did it. They probably added 10k at most, which was all that was needed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cloröx Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, family.guy123 said: Strategic shipping of physical albums is kind of sleazy. They should only count the sales made during the first week of pre-order for this week. Then next week add on the sales ordered in week 2 etc etc 6 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: As someone else put it, strategic shipping IS desperate. And it does come off as her still seeking validation through the charts, which would be sad if true Nnnnn you all blaming the artists when Billboard is the one who created this rule after a lot of complains before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoisonedIvy Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: As someone else put it, strategic shipping IS desperate. And it does come off as her still seeking validation through the charts, which would be sad if true This isn’t Taylor’s decision or chart manipulation, it’s Billboard’s own rules Vinyl take 3 to 6 months to produce and ship, and Billboard decides to count the vinyl sales in bulk now. Taylor being able to sell an unprecedented amount of physical albums isn’t desperate. ??♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAN Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 I hate Taylor for this the fact she just beat Olivia after being 30k behind before her “spontaneous” release of other versions yesterday hopefully Billboard puts Olivia at top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M-P-B Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 15 minutes ago, Headlock said: Why, it was already close before them, that’s the entire reason Taylor did it. They probably added 10k at most, which was all that was needed there was a 30k difference between eversnore and Sour based on the last HDD projections Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masked Epiphany Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 13 minutes ago, private radio said: the good sis joining willow's legacy the superior album folklore can't relate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Just now, M-P-B said: there was a 30k difference between eversnore and Sour based on the last HDD projections And those predictions had been changing daily, as happens when Taylor selling physicals is involved because she sells, when was the last 140k prediction? Taylor wouldn’t have done a last minute push if she was 30k away, that’s too much, it was obviously much closer than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tost1 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 bTS indeed. fraudulence won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyonnaise Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Evermore A smash album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headlock Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, tost1 said: bTS indeed. fraudulence won. And sometimes artists pull out all the stops and they still lose, y’all can’t pick and choose what strategies you root for to work Edited June 4, 2021 by Headlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
americanlife Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Tbh I'll be pissed if Taylor blocks Olivia from a two-week #1 debut album. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms. Togekiss Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Evermore could have easily debuted with over 500k then not this puta doing almost 200k and outselling most of the it girls’ first week 6 months in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterstyles13 Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 32 minutes ago, Baby Judas said: The kii if evermore freefalls to below #50 after this one. What is there to kii about? Everyone knows it's so high because the vinyls and signed CDs finally got shipped, which just shows how incredible her selling power is. Obviously it won't move no where near those units again next week, considering the album was released 6 months ago Taylor has more albums charting every single week on the Billboard 200 than any female artist by far. I think she's fine no matter where evermore lands next week don't you think? n Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galah Posted June 4, 2021 Share Posted June 4, 2021 Imagine a universe where Taylor blocks Olivia and then Olivia pulls a Bad Blood on Taylor during her sophomore album and Taylor gets her just desserts for ruining Katy's rep. We'd hate to see it, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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