ariananext Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 8 hours ago, bluebirdsforever said: Maybe if some of you spent more time in the Spotify iOS app streaming your own favs and less time debating Ariana's success, you'd be able to make this same thread about them too. Anyway, to answer the question, I'm logical enough to understand that every girl is gonna hit their bumps in the road eventually but Miss Grande-Butera has managed to swerve past them thus far so props to her. She's in her prime and she should take advantage of it. oh wow Link to post Share on other sites
Ari29 Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 It was scrapped and restarted 5/6 months later. Link to post Share on other sites
GreatestLoveofAll Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Sticks to modern style of singing and production plus great bops and beautiful melodies. "positions" will always be my top five for her Link to post Share on other sites
Georges Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Because she’s backed by the payola-industrial complex Link to post Share on other sites
KKCuteCat Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 22 hours ago, suburbannature said: Well, I kinda stan, but her album sales are typically pretty low despite the streaming powerhouse she is. we're in 2021. You can't say an artist is a flop because they have low sales but huge streaming stats . Coz it's happening to most artists right now Link to post Share on other sites
suburbannature Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 (edited) 10 minutes ago, KKCuteCat said: we're in 2021. You can't say an artist is a flop because they have low sales but huge streaming stats . Coz it's happening to most artists right now I know that, but her album totals are LOW - even relatively. DW - 429K Sweetener - 321K TUN - 302K Positions - 50K so far Billie, for example, has passed a million for her debut. Edited February 21 by suburbannature Link to post Share on other sites
Sharapov Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 thats because she changes the lead single when one of them bombs, see focus Link to post Share on other sites
KKCuteCat Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 5 minutes ago, suburbannature said: I know that, but her album totals are LOW - even relatively. DW - 429K Sweetener - 321K TUN - 302K Positions - 50K so far Billie, for example, has passed a million for her debut. Well, but Billie's sales were really rare. Besides, even if Billie is much more success, it doesn't mean Ari is a flop. I mean, Ari is successful overall, just don't have a great sales like Billie. Link to post Share on other sites
bad guy Posted Monday at 06:52 PM Share Posted Monday at 06:52 PM Yours Truly is not a hit album But yeah other than that her eras have been either moderately successful (DW/Sweetener/Positions) or successful (ME/TUN). Her super low album sales make me think that she’s more singles driven though which might become a roadblock once she gets older but only time will tell. Link to post Share on other sites
WhateverYouWant Posted Tuesday at 04:11 AM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:11 AM (edited) Yours Truly was really a nonevent outside her Nickelodeon fans. But other than that I agree. Since her breakout with My Everything it’s been success after success. Her career reminds me a lot of Rihanna’s tbh Edited Tuesday at 04:12 AM by WhateverYouWant Link to post Share on other sites
MonsterOfFame Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM 14 hours ago, WhateverYouWant said: Her career reminds me a lot of Rihanna’s tbh Literally came here to say this. Like Rihanna, Ariana releases new albums so frequently each with 1-2 smashing singles, that the rest of the album never has time to flop. Look at her past 4 albums.. she releases 3-4 singles in less than a year's time. Once the 3rd or 4th single doesn't hit the Top 10, an entire new album is released. I'm not complaining though. It's a win-win - fans always get new music and Ariana gets continued success. I wonder if she will burnout and disappear for 5 years like Rihanna after years of nonstop releases. Link to post Share on other sites
Evy Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:30 PM she didn't have a successfull era aswell yet, girls whole existence is mediocre Link to post Share on other sites
Solgayleo Posted Tuesday at 08:42 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 08:42 PM Yours Truly was a #1 album with a cute top 10 hit... the olympians in here performing mental gymnastics to consider that a flop era. it was a moderate success, especially for a debut. While I do agree that the gheys often inflate her actual success, she has undeniably never had a “flop” era. And ME and TU,N were huge Link to post Share on other sites
Joemo Posted Tuesday at 10:58 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 10:58 PM Talent and timing. This next generation of music fans who have grew up on streaming also grew up with Ariana’s music being at the height of her popularity. Link to post Share on other sites
UnusualBoy Posted Tuesday at 11:09 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 11:09 PM YT? Sure, it's her debut but it's not like she was an obscure unknown act, she was coming from 2 Nickelodeon shows and the album basically only had 1 hit + these are its certifications and peaks: Certifications[edit] Region Certification Certified units/sales Canada (Music Canada)[126] Gold 40,000 Japan (RIAJ)[128] Gold 125,000[127] Norway (IFPI Norway)[129] Gold 10,000* United Kingdom (BPI)[131] Gold 88,870[130] United States (RIAA)[132] Platinum 615,000[93] Chart (2013–14) Peak position Australian Albums (ARIA)[103] 6 Austrian Albums (Ö3 Austria)[104] 53 Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders)[105] 62 Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia)[106] 82 Canadian Albums (Billboard)[107] 2 Chinese Albums (Sino)[108] 27 Danish Albums (Hitlisten)[109] 10 Dutch Albums (Album Top 100)[110] 5 French Albums (SNEP)[111] 183 Greek Albums (IFPI)[112] 31 Irish Albums (IRMA)[113] 6 Japanese Albums (Oricon)[114] 3 Mexican Albums (AMPROFON)[115] 39 New Zealand Albums (RMNZ)[116] 11 Norwegian Albums (VG-lista)[117] 33 Scottish Albums (OCC)[118] 18 South Korea International Albums (Gaon)[119] 27 Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE)[120] 45 Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade)[121] 57 UK Albums (OCC)[122] 7 US Billboard 200[123] 1 That's basically the only album you'd consider a "flop", Splenda is her first underperformance if we exclude YT for being her debut. Link to post Share on other sites
BILLIONAIRE✘BOY Posted Wednesday at 12:09 AM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:09 AM She has the actual talent to back it up along with support from the industry. Bonafide ICON who cant lose Link to post Share on other sites
sasashite Posted Wednesday at 12:12 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:12 PM If we exclude Yours Truly, yes. But with the exception of thank u next, she doesn't have a smash era. Link to post Share on other sites
Silvermoon92 Posted Wednesday at 04:49 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:49 PM She has a fantastic rare voice Link to post Share on other sites
SilencePlease Posted Wednesday at 07:38 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 07:38 PM She has flop albums lmao Link to post Share on other sites
luckythisway Posted Wednesday at 09:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:27 PM 9 hours ago, sasashite said: If we exclude Yours Truly, yes. But with the exception of thank u next, she doesn't have a smash era. Why would tu,n be an exception... when it’s one of her eras... which happened to smash?... You deserve the gold medal in mental gymnastics for this post whew chile Link to post Share on other sites
BlueTimberwolf Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 09:55 PM if it wasn't for streaming, she'd be a singles artist Link to post Share on other sites
Rino Posted Thursday at 02:59 AM Share Posted Thursday at 02:59 AM catchy songs + smart marketing and decision making she's been playing a long-term game very cleverly so far Link to post Share on other sites
gngzack Posted Thursday at 03:29 AM Share Posted Thursday at 03:29 AM On 2/21/2021 at 12:12 AM, ineedboxinggloves said: You don’t have to be smart to notice that Yours Truly is 1x Platinum and spawned 0 hits while most of the albums you mentioned outsold and had more hits. It had a great debut but it’s a flop OT: Other that YT (which isn’t even that big of a flop), she truly hasn’t flopped yet Spawned 0 hits? In what world is a 5x platinum top 10 debut single not a hit? OT: The consistency of quality is the main factor. There’s a reason her discography is entirely green on metacritic. Link to post Share on other sites
Mezter Posted Thursday at 04:42 AM Share Posted Thursday at 04:42 AM On 2/21/2021 at 2:12 AM, Insanity said: Let's take a look at Ariana career span: YT: The Way #9 Baby I #21 Right There #84 Album #1 For a debut this is decent (Tbf she had little hype at this time and compared to Mariah) My Everything: Problem #2 Break Free #4 Bang Bang #3 Love Me Harder #7 One Last Time #13 Album #1 (4 top 10s in 2nd era is mass improvement) Pre single Focus #7 Dangerous Woman: DW #8 Inton You #13 (Shocking because it felt like a top 5 song) Side 2 Side #4 Everyday #55 Sweetener: NTLTC #3 God is a woman #8 Breathin #12 thank u, next Tu, next #1 7 Rings #2 Break Up W Your Bf #2 Post single: Boyfriend #8 Standalone feats Stuck W U #1 Rain On Me #1 positions: Positions #1 34+35. #2 So where is the floppage? Why she eat like this? This why the girls are madT Link to post Share on other sites
Insanity Posted Thursday at 05:19 AM Share Posted Thursday at 05:19 AM 36 minutes ago, Mezter said: Why she eat like this? This why the girls are madT 18 top 10's is good Link to post Share on other sites
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