éclat Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) A producer/composer who worked with Taylor recounts Swift asking them to simplify their work. I think Taylor prefers a stripped down approach to making music. This doesn’t make her bad, it’s just her signature sound. Edited January 24 by éclat Link to post Share on other sites
Both Sides Now Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I can’t comment on some artists because it’s never clear how much they actually write. We have plenty of artists who sometimes “change a word, get a third”. Of the artists I know write most of their lyrics, the worst has to be the “your words are like Chinese water torture” songstress. Unfortunately. Her lyrical ideas are nearly always really basic and dull. Anyone say Taylor is just... Drag her for her dancing, voice, whatever but her songwriting is clearly excellent and acclaimed. Link to post Share on other sites
CandleGuy Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 The OTHs exposing themselves like this Taylor is unanimously considered one of the great songwriters of our time. If she's not your thing that's fine sistrens but don't embarass yourselves speaking her name in a WORST SONGWRITER thread OT: Katy and Demi have written some of the most cringeworthy lyrics I've ever heard. Link to post Share on other sites
Insanity Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I mean some of them only do minimal writing. Do we know the amount of writing by Ari, Rihanna, Bey and many others? Katy's writing has dramatically declined. Back in the day she had great lyricism but Witness was a downgrade although many songs on Smile were better written. Link to post Share on other sites
Headlock Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 17 minutes ago, éclat said: A producer/composer who worked with Taylor recounts Swift asking them to simplify their work. I think Taylor prefers a stripped down approach to making music. This doesn’t make her bad, it’s just her signature sound. Are you talking about Imogen Heap? Because Taylor didn’t ask her to simplify her work, they were trying to find out a bridge for Clean and Taylor just didn’t like an idea Imogen had for it that was left-of-center. Link to post Share on other sites
Insanity Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 People saying Taylor please. Even self titled has better lyricism than most of our faves combined. Taylor has a knack for writing and that's an undeniable fact. Link to post Share on other sites
éclat Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, Headlock said: Are you talking about Imogen Heap? Because Taylor didn’t ask her to simplify her work, they were trying to find out a bridge for Clean and Taylor just didn’t like an idea Imogen had for it that was left-of-center. Yes, but that’s not how she described it. Link to post Share on other sites
Jazz Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Camila Cabello's songwriting in "Romance" was absolutely cringe and seemed very disingenuous. Literally go on Genius and see for yourself. Link to post Share on other sites
Headlock Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 minutes ago, éclat said: Yes, but that’s not how she described it. That is what Imogen said though, she suggested an “odd chord progression” that Taylor didn’t like so they went with something else. http://imogenheap.com/home.php?article=1321 Link to post Share on other sites
G.U.Y_Del_Rey Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Katy Perry. Chinese water torture Rihanna and Beyonce don't even write so they kinda don't count. Link to post Share on other sites
Biggie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Eughmmmm you don't know Ari like that she was actually 18 Lol dummy You are so out of the loop. Everyone who knows ARI knows she was only a child up until her label told her not to be ummmm lol yuh. Link to post Share on other sites
ineedboxinggloves Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 minutes ago, Queenyoncee said: Gaga troll Link to post Share on other sites
Biggie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Anyone alluding to Bey in their name having the nerve to comment here Link to post Share on other sites
ariananext Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 9 minutes ago, Insanity said: I mean some of them only do minimal writing. Do we know the amount of writing by Ari, Rihanna, Bey and many others? Just Like Magic - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Priscilla Renea Off The Table - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Abel Tesfaye Six Thirty - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Priscilla Renea Safety Net - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande, Leon Thomas III, T Griffin Jr Nasty - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Victoria Monet West Side - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Victoria Monet pov - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Tayla Parx Link to post Share on other sites
bestfiction Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 tbh most of our popgirls barely write but out of those who do, it's probably Katy. so many cringeworthy lines Link to post Share on other sites
tellem Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Miichael said: Not the Songwriter's Hall of Fame inductee and Contemporary Icon winner She was not inducted in the Songwriters hall of fame though ot: if this was lyrics only I would say gaga . But songwriting in general I will say Britney , her written songs are not that good Link to post Share on other sites
Insanity Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 16 minutes ago, ariananext said: Just Like Magic - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Priscilla Renea Off The Table - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Abel Tesfaye Six Thirty - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Priscilla Renea Safety Net - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande, Leon Thomas III, T Griffin Jr Nasty - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Victoria Monet West Side - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Victoria Monet pov - lyrics and melodies by Ariana Grande and Tayla Parx oh wow well slay Link to post Share on other sites
Johnny Cash Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Gaga. Her lyrics are cringy and her style is extremely limited. At least she writes tho Link to post Share on other sites
raven Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Miss Americana said: Gurl you need to learn something before posting these ignorant claims... SONGWRITING = LYRICS + COMPOSITION Ariana only contributes to the lyrics and that's why she has 10 credits because she HAD to credit every one who came up with the melody... Writing competent lyrics isn't hard...coming up with catchy melodies >>>>> To be a competent songwriter you have to be a good lyricist and a composer too... That's why popgirls struggle to write songs. Taylor is regarded as a great songwriter because most of her **** is self-written(meaning she came up with EVERYTHING HERSELF including the chords and melodies) And even for her "cowritten" **** she came up with the melody and lyrics on her own before showing it to the producers... See...BLANK SPACE "This was me playing it for Max and Johan for the first time" Versus Here the team of composers(producers who came up with the chords and the beats) and the group of lyricists were in different room and ofcourse she had to credit everyone...It's illegal to not credit someone for their creative work this meltdown... Link to post Share on other sites
Luckitty Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Fender said: having a bad song doesn’t mean she’s a bad writer every artist has bad songs but most of them don’t leak Link to post Share on other sites
HonourableVomit Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Earth Ripper said: The Fun Tonight chanteuse. It's funny you mention Fun Tonight because it's an exceptionally written song that is let down by terrible production and completely incompatible instrumentation. Link to post Share on other sites
Samsom Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Katy it's the worst, she became cringey, with a lot of metaphors that try too hard to sound unique but fails completely, I know it's her style but it even lacks a lot of quality. For example Kesha has a very cocky/cringey lyric style but it works bc she doesn't try hard to sound deep or cool. But I guess at least Katy writes, not everyone can do that and she is a genius for hooks and catchiness and have some good written songs in her debut plus Wide Awake, TOTGA, TD, CG, NLTM, LL, WOA, HIH, Daises and NRO Link to post Share on other sites
josesuxx Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 3 hours ago, Bhabylon said: Katy and Demi Not when Demi can write this Ps: save your "thanks for proving my point" Link to post Share on other sites
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