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10 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

“He’s not promoting” and Harry is? Where is the promotion? Where is it?

 

The last time he did an interview was in March :rip: since March he has released music videos (which Zayn has also done), the cover of Vogue (that didn’t boost his music at all, there was literally no change in his numbers around those weeks), Hitmaker of the year cover (again, no change in his stats), and performed three songs for Jingle Bell Ball (once again, no change in his stats). All of that was in around three weeks in late November/early December. Watermelon Sugar went #1 in May and he didn’t even lift a finger. He still hasn’t even reacted to getting a #1 or being nominated to three Grammys. His album is selling on its own because it’s good. That’s it.

 

I mean, Lights Up, a surprise release with no radio whatsoever (six singular spins the whole week) and that was only in TTH at like 30, still debuted at 17 in the Hot 100, and that was before this era exploded. With Harry doing literally no promo whatsoever. He was in the middle of a trial with a stalker. He didn’t do the first interview of the era until around Halloween and the song came out Oct 11th.

 

The music video for Golden was like, the third most viewed music video in the first 24 hours by a solo artist... And we hadn’t heard his voice in 7 months...

 

This “no promo” excuse is getting really stale. If the music is good, someone with a good fanbase and team will still have at least mildly good results. But Zayn never had them. He did good with Pillowtalk piggybacking off 1D’s split (literally weeks after they split), IDWLF thanks to Taylor, DTD thanks to Sia. He has not done one single notable thing on his own. His fans just j*** off to the idea of the career “he could’ve had” which is nothing but baseless assumptions.

harry still is and has been all over streaming services and radio. :rip: 

 

interesting you mention those big collabs because those were taylor and sia’s last substantial hits which proved to have any legs. could we say that zayn gifted that to them? why haven’t they matched it since also? it’s been years now and many releases later... 

taylor had all the hype in the world with LWYMMD and couldn’t come close to the zayn collab numbers whatsoever. Why? :celestial5: 

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5 hours ago, myles said:

harry still is and has been all over streaming services and radio. :rip: 

 

interesting you mention those big collabs because those were taylor and sia’s last substantial hits which proved to have any legs. could we say that zayn gifted that to them? why haven’t they matched it since also? it’s been years now and many releases later... 

taylor had all the hype in the world with LWYMMD and couldn’t come close to the zayn collab numbers whatsoever. Why? :celestial5: 

 

 

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TAYLOR SWIFT LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO July 23, 2018 BIG MACHINE RECORDS SINGLE
Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre info.png
AUGUST 25, 2017 4x Multi-Platinum | July 23, 2018 SOLO Digital 4 Million POP
  3x Multi-Platinum | December 11, 2017
  2x Multi-Platinum | December 11, 2017
  Platinum | September 14, 2017
  Gold | September 14, 2017

 

 

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ZAYN & TAYLOR SWIFT I DON'T WANNA LIVE FOREVER (FIFTY SHADES DARKER) June 14, 2018 REPUBLIC RECORDS SINGLE
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DECEMBER 9, 2016 4x Multi-Platinum | June 14, 2018 None Digital 4 Million POP
  3x Multi-Platinum | July 14, 2017
  2x Multi-Platinum | April 18, 2017
  Platinum | April 18, 2017
  Gold | April 18, 2017

 

Mmmm... not quite with Taylor. And Cheap Thrills continued to chart after DTD vanished. So.... no.

 

Zayn is literally playlisted right now

 

Vibez is literally 26 positions higher than Golden, which is a post album single that's been out for over a year (Golden is 47 in TTH), yet (and this is with NIL album impact...)

ab67616d0000485177fdcfda6535601aff081b6a 65
 
Golden by Harry Styles 1,169,892
ab67616d00004851f160ff1c91caffd9e24cc736 66
 
Vibez by ZAYN 1,168,409

 

Excuses excuses excuses.

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9 hours ago, TrieLz said:

Watermelon hit #1 on may, because His LABEL did that trick, so he didn’t lift any finger, :cm:

the same for Grammy, his label submit him for a nomms. Yes, Harry has a full support from his label.

 

not to mention Harry releasing a generic pop album in his 2nd era, which is more popular genre comparing to Zayn’s semi R&B-pop :coffee2:

Harry would flop if he release another Rock Wannabe song ala Sign of the time :coffee2:

 

 

Zayn promo only a low budget MV, 

that’s it. he doesn’t have much support from his label.
When was the last time Zayn performed live? Or an interview on TV? Attending an award show? :rip:

 

a lot of his fans already left him because he didn’t care. 
 

And I know you are an OZH since day 1:eli:

All his label did was make available vinyls and casettes and discount. And he would've peaked at #2 if they hadn't. Harry didn't even tweet about the vinyls.


Zayn was submitted to the Grammys with both eras. Guess they just don't like 'im :/

 

Sign of the Times will outstream and outsell Pillowtalk. It's getting twice as many recurrent streams. It's already certified 3x Platinum and was certified in more countries than Pillowtalk. It was nowhere near a flop. Longevity > peak. And Fine Line is the furthest thing from a generic pop album. Literally nothing on the radio sounds like TBSL, Cherry, Canyon Moon, Sunflower, Fine Line, TPWK, She. 8 out of 12 songs are certified Gold or higher (2 are Platinum, 2 are multi Platinum). 10/12 songs have over 100 million streams. Even the more pop friendly songs are done with live instruments and sound refreshing and different.

 

When Zayn did perform live and did interviews, he still flopped. It's You was literally performed at the Today Show. It was his second pre-album single. It was sent to radio. It peaked at 65.

 

I don't hate Zayn. I just find it irritating that he's attributed "he could be as big as Harry if he..." because there's literally no proof of it. It's all smoke and mirrors. He never got a single career highlight on his own.

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20 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

All his label did was make available vinyls and casettes and discount. And he would've peaked at #2 if they hadn't. Harry didn't even tweet about the vinyls.


Zayn was submitted to the Grammys with both eras. Guess they just don't like 'im :/

 

Sign of the Times will outstream and outsell Pillowtalk. It's getting twice as many recurrent streams. It's already certified 3x Platinum and was certified in more countries than Pillowtalk. It was nowhere near a flop. Longevity > peak. And Fine Line is the furthest thing from a generic pop album. Literally nothing on the radio sounds like TBSL, Cherry, Canyon Moon, Sunflower, Fine Line, TPWK, She. 8 out of 12 songs are certified Gold or higher (2 are Platinum, 2 are multi Platinum). 10/12 songs have over 100 million streams. Even the more pop friendly songs are done with live instruments and sound refreshing and different.

 

When Zayn did perform live and did interviews, he still flopped. It's You was literally performed at the Today Show. It was his second pre-album single. It was sent to radio. It peaked at 65.

 

I don't hate Zayn. I just find it irritating that he's attributed "he could be as big as Harry if he..." because there's literally no proof of it. It's all smoke and mirrors. He never got a single career highlight on his own.

there is nothing wrong with your views and beliefs. you have freedom of speech and everything you are saying is true!

 

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42 minutes ago, More Than A Melody said:

 

 

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TAYLOR SWIFT LOOK WHAT YOU MADE ME DO July 23, 2018 BIG MACHINE RECORDS SINGLE
Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre info.png
AUGUST 25, 2017 4x Multi-Platinum | July 23, 2018 SOLO Digital 4 Million POP
  3x Multi-Platinum | December 11, 2017
  2x Multi-Platinum | December 11, 2017
  Platinum | September 14, 2017
  Gold | September 14, 2017

 

 

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ZAYN & TAYLOR SWIFT I DON'T WANNA LIVE FOREVER (FIFTY SHADES DARKER) June 14, 2018 REPUBLIC RECORDS SINGLE
Release Date Previous Certification(s) | Date(s) Category Type Certified Units Genre info.png
DECEMBER 9, 2016 4x Multi-Platinum | June 14, 2018 None Digital 4 Million POP
  3x Multi-Platinum | July 14, 2017
  2x Multi-Platinum | April 18, 2017
  Platinum | April 18, 2017
  Gold | April 18, 2017

 

Mmmm... not quite with Taylor. And Cheap Thrills continued to chart after DTD vanished. So.... no.

 

Zayn is literally playlisted right now

 

Vibez is literally 26 positions higher than Golden, which is a post album single that's been out for over a year (Golden is 47 in TTH), yet (and this is with NIL album impact...)

ab67616d0000485177fdcfda6535601aff081b6a 65
 
Golden by Harry Styles 1,169,892
ab67616d00004851f160ff1c91caffd9e24cc736 66
 
Vibez by ZAYN 1,168,409

 

Excuses excuses excuses.

thank you for presenting just one local chart to me to try and prove your point when there's an entire world of stats out there

 

anyway taylor swift should say thank you to zayn for first and last big hit since 1989 era despite releasing 3 albums since 

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storminthedark

Not everyone can live up to the level of the Adore You chanteuse :gaycat5: I see Zayn stans are still clinging to success from 2016. Nobody is Listening indeed :fan: 

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GreatestLoveofAll

I think he shows very little commitment to actually promoting so its hard to make the GP actually care at that point. 

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5 hours ago, myles said:

thank you for presenting just one local chart to me to try and prove your point when there's an entire world of stats out there

 

anyway taylor swift should say thank you to zayn for first and last big hit since 1989 era despite releasing 3 albums since 

Oh you’re delusional delusional... anyway here:

 

And LWYMMD is 18 several months “newer”.

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4 hours ago, Digitalism said:

He's not even trying. 

Harry tries really hard

Harry’s last interview and live performance was in March.

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15 hours ago, More Than A Melody said:

Harry’s last interview and live performance was in March.

Are we going to act like there isn't a pandemic?

Now name all the zayn performances 

This thread is stupid of course harry sells more

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Zayn doesn't even try to promote his music, there is no drive behind anything (i mean except for that he released music). This is hardly a surprise that he's not going to do well when the baby news received more media attention than his album release (and i like Zayn).

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Ryuuchan_X

It’s a shame his rotten personality ruined everything for him.
 

Why did god have to give one of the most beautiful men on this planet such a terrible personality? :'(

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On 1/20/2021 at 5:54 AM, TrieLz said:

Watermelon hit #1 on may, because His LABEL did that trick, so he didn’t lift any finger, :cm:

the same for Grammy, his label submit him for a nomms. Yes, Harry has a full support from his label.

 

not to mention Harry releasing a generic pop album in his 2nd era, which is more popular genre comparing to Zayn’s semi R&B-pop :coffee2:

Harry would flop if he release another Rock Wannabe song ala Sign of the time :coffee2:

 

 

Zayn promo only a low budget MV, 

that’s it. he doesn’t have much support from his label.
When was the last time Zayn performed live? Or an interview on TV? Attending an award show? :rip:

 

a lot of his fans already left him because he didn’t care. 
 

And I know you are an OZH since day 1:eli:

This is a big fume on its own bc even if Zayn’s label did the same no one would bother to listen to his music just like his album title says. Do you think they didn’t try to push Pillowtalk for the Grammys back in the day? anyway how is Harry’s album generic :rip: 

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no one cares about his music. they just talk about how hot he is, as evidenced in this thread

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Niall is bigger than Zayn. If Zayn couldn't outsell Niall nowadays how in the hell would he outsell Harry. At this point it's like comparing Beyoncé to one of the unknown destiny child's members. It's over.

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On 1/21/2021 at 12:44 PM, Digitalism said:

Are we going to act like there isn't a pandemic?

Now name all the zayn performances 

This thread is stupid of course harry sells more

??? What’s the pandemic got to do with anything lol. Harry is literally top 15 on HDD’s album chart, over a year after release, without promoting in over 10 months, with no hit single smashing right now. Zayn is 38.

 

Harry sold 9,000 albums. THIS WEEK. Zayn sold 4,000 debut week. Harry’s TEA and SEA was also bigger. You can try to blame promo, the label, the pandemic, whatever you want, but at this point it’s delusional. Harry is bigger because he’s bigger. His last album got a 76 in Metacritic (and that’s, IMO, with a ton of bias about his boyband past). Zayn’s is at 61.

 

Harry just makes better music, connects better, is more interesting, etc. He was always gonna be the big breakout out of 1D. Since 2010 people have been saying. It was the easiest prophecy ever.

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On 1/20/2021 at 1:11 AM, 99sandthe2000s said:

This is your 2nd thread about him this month and it's getting concerning...why do you care so much?

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OT: because one artist is more popular and promotes their music more. 

this, user's behavior is concerning, isn't Zayn's an indie artist or something? and what did he even do to be dragged? 

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