popmusic Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, sadnews said: it is not overshipped. they always make x2~x3 of expected first week sales to the store. (nowadays more likely x2 due to less album sales, especially physical) it is how distribution works. you can't expect same/similar number between shipment and retail to customer sales. We're not talk about first month of sales but about first year. Both albums are selling well so Sony overshipped albums for next half of year because they know that sales will be still good. Especially 25 was overshipped before Xmas 2015
sadnews Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, popmusic said: We're not talk about first month of sales but about first year. Both albums are selling well so Sony overshipped albums for next half of year because they know that sales will be still good. Especially 25 was overshipped before Xmas 2015 it is not overshipped when the product is selling well, and sold most of its shipment. overshipped is for albums with big shipments due to hype and previous albums's success but failed to sell that.
Mystic Boy Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Oh my god, Bee haters get their 63838283th slap in the face and this one is TOUGH AND ROUGH I thought nobody cares about her beside the US Black community ? Did ATRL lied again ? Im so confused.. and Where is ANTI? navy told me it was the biggest female release of 2016 Yes at SIA having the biggest female song ! Edited April 25, 2017 by Mystic Boy
blackbeatxx Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) So clearly lots of the sales of 25 last year were from the 2015 shipments! But what's the truth about tracking period? Jan-dec or feb-feb? Congrats to Adele, Bey and the others Edited April 25, 2017 by blackbeatxx
Starkboy Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 how is Adele only #4 How are CSTF! and TIWYCF not on the list sorry but these lists never made sense to me
Kisuke Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Local non event being the global nr1 of the year? 20 years in the game and still the Queen.
MrPiggyMoka Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Legend 20 years into her career... Who tf ELSEE??
T-Swizz Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Agreed, over-shipment seems a lot less likely in this sales climate.
Dingdong123 Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 10 hours ago, iHype. said: Officially out tomorrow. Makes no sense to include SPS for songs two years in a row, but pure sales for albums. Makes sense sis. It basically measures the most popular albums and songs. You ain't making an album more popular by streaming the same song for like 1000 times. Only the song becomes popular, not the entire record. This has been my take on this sales plus streaming mess by Billboard 200 chart.
istan4badgalriri Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 9 hours ago, Ethanrih said: makes no sense because Adele outsold everyone on here with Pure sales ??? IFPI counts shipments OT: surprised TIWYCF didn't make the top 10
istan4badgalriri Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Work 10.6M SPS streaming increased by 60% last year http://www.snepmusique.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Global-Music-Report-2017.pdf
Sylar Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Starkboy said: how is Adele only #4 How are CSTF! and TIWYCF not on the list sorry but these lists never made sense to me well Stressed Out is #10 with 9.9M copies sold. Why is it hard to believe CSTF & TIWYCF are below that? They are probably in the top 15.
istan4badgalriri Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Top 10 albums 1. Beyoncé Lemonade 2.5M 2. Adele 25 2.4M 3. Drake Views 2.3M 4. Metallica Hardwired...to self-destruct 2.1M 5. David Bowie Blackstar 1.9M 6. The Rolling Stones Blue & Lonesome 1.8M 7. Bruno Mars 24K Magic 1.7M 8. Twenty One Pilots Blurryface 1.5M 9. Coldplay A Head Full Of Dreams 1.4M 10. Pentatonix A Pentatonix Christmas 1.4M quite a big difference with Media traffic top 10 albums of 2016 http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-2016.htm Top 10 singles 1. One Dance 12.5M 2. Love Yourself 11.7M 3. Closer 11.7M 4. Cheap Thrills 11.1M 5. Sorry 10.8M 6. Work 10.6M 7. 7 Years 10.4M 8. Don't Let Me Down 10.2M 9. I Took A Pill In Ibiza 10M 11. Stressed Out 9.9M Edited April 25, 2017 by istan4badgalriri
Green Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 According to mediatraffic Lemonade and Views sold more than what they shipped
istan4badgalriri Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Just now, Green said: According to mediatraffic Lemonade and Views sold more than what they shipped same with Blurryface, AHFOD & Anti
abrahamjmr Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 11 hours ago, Underdogs said: Surprised Can't Stop The Feeling! didn't make the list. I believe it didn't do as well as certain user tried to make us think. 10 hours ago, Ethanrih said: makes no sense because Adele outsold everyone on here with Pure sales ??? They use shipments.
Green Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Adele 25 IFPI: 2015 Shipments: 17,4 million 2016: Shipments: 2,4 million Total 2015 + 2016: 19,8 million Mediatraffic sales estimations: 2015: 14.970.000 2016: 4.668.000 Total sales (2015 + 2016) = 19.638.000 Their total estimations for 25 are almost on point though Queen Adele selling almost all her shipments With the 2017 sales 25 is already over 20 million Edited April 25, 2017 by Green
Green Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 (edited) Despite of including streaming the 2016 singles chart looks weak compared with the 2015 singles chart (because the 2015 singles did great in sales) Edited April 25, 2017 by Green
istan4badgalriri Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 http://www.ifpi.org/news/IFPI-GLOBAL-MUSIC-REPORT-2017 Key figures Global revenue growth: +5.9% Digital share of global revenues: 50% Digital revenue growth: +17.7% Growth in streaming revenues +60.4% Physical revenues: -7.6% Download revenue: -20.5%
sadnews Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 I said it long time ago, sps being main album chart around world, make it more difficult to estimate pure sales. because there's no way to separate sps number and pure sales unless the charts gave away the numbers (two 10k sps album can be 5k pure 5k streaming or 1k pure 9k streaming) and they only release those information for top 5/10 albums or some interesting albums. so this sps album chart makes mediatraffic much more difficult to estimate during 2016. not to mention the pure sales went downhill much faster in EU and Asia than US. (his method like +10% for small eu contries, +10% for asia don't work well with sps era.) so.. from mediatraffic to ifpi official shipment lemonade 170k off, david bowie 80k off(or less who knows), albums with less streaming have less difference. while album with huge streaming have bigger difference. drake 350k off. coldplay and twenty were 2015 releases.
istan4badgalriri Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 1 minute ago, sadnews said: I said it long time ago, sps being main album chart around world, make it more difficult to estimate pure sales. because there's no way to separate sps number and pure sales unless the charts gave away the numbers (two 10k sps album can be 5k pure 5k streaming or 1k pure 9k streaming) and they only release those information for top 5/10 albums or some interesting albums. so this sps album chart makes mediatraffic much more difficult to estimate during 2016. not to mention the pure sales went downhill much faster in EU and Asia than US. (his method like +10% for small eu contries, +10% for asia don't work well with sps era.) so.. from mediatraffic to ifpi official shipment lemonade 170k off, david bowie 80k off(or less who knows), albums with less streaming have less difference. while album with huge streaming have bigger difference. drake 350k off. coldplay and twenty were 2015 releases. i don't get why IFPI still doesn't include streams in their top 10 albums, since almost every country includes streams in their main album chart now now the top 10 albums list looks so weak, best selling album is at 2.5M...
Susan Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 Metacritic is the worst source of sales From the age of streams, his estimates no longer make sense
sadnews Posted April 25, 2017 Posted April 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, istan4badgalriri said: i don't get why IFPI still doesn't include streams in their top 10 albums, since almost every country includes streams in their main album chart now now the top 10 albums list looks so weak, best selling album is at 2.5M... I guess because they all use different method. and maybe different gross? like If we use UK method on US numbers... they will be like 50% down. but yeah. they should make sps album chart too. it will be some hard works and making rule for it.. blahblah but since they can access to global streaming numbers, why not?
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