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3x platinum is a hit. Its chartrun isn't impressive sure, but 3x platinum is good enough number to be considered hit. 

 

20 minutes ago, STONE said:

I honestly think it is a moderate hit. The reason ATRL deny it so much because it is like a prime example of an inorganic hit :bibliahh: also doesnt help how hard she tried to make it a hit and promote everywhere and the GP said NO until superbowl :bibliahh:

but hey a hit is a hit:cm:

because that song never spent a week on TTH, which has been far more effective promo than performances since 2015. 

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16 hours ago, Konan said:

Hot 100:

#76 - / - #57 - #57 - #96 - / - #52 - #62 - #70 - #83 - #86 - #96 - / - #97 - / - #4 - #18 - #30 - #30 - #29 - #38 - #46 - #37 - #41 - /

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Hot Volcano
1 hour ago, istan4badgalriri said:

....ain’t that exactly what I said ? If it wasn’t for all of the overwhelming exposure the song has received, it wouldn’t have done anything really.

So it gained ~100m streams on Spotify in 2020 because of the Superbowl in 2017 or Carpool Karaoke from 2016? Or the iTunes discounts? :ahh:

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16 hours ago, Konan said:

Hot 100:

#76 - / - #57 - #57 - #96 - / - #52 - #62 - #70 - #83 - #86 - #96 - / - #97 - / - #4 - #18 - #30 - #30 - #29 - #38 - #46 - #37 - #41 - /

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Lights and Waves

If there was a chart that tracked songs that are played at the grocery store/clothing stores for older women, then yes, MR is a smash :gaygacat3:

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Rhiannon

MR was moderate hit tbh..

Gaga's was irrelevant during those days + the song it's a country pop ballad, your favs could never, so sit down OGHs.

 

The way OGHs can't stand the fact that MR is so big on streaming + it sold millions of copies too, x2 plat in a lot of countries and it's a new Gaga classic (another one) :ahh:

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Mr. Yoso
1 hour ago, Brinny Baby said:

Shallow and Rain On Me are her only recent hits

Yikes Thanks to ASIB and Ari. Lady Gaga needs help from a movie and a much bigger artist than her to get hits. :sistrens:

 

Her last legit solo hit single is Borrn this way and that was 10 years ago. Lady gaga is a fad. :sistrens:

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UnusualBoy

It became a moderate hit over time but it was basically an underperformance or flop in 2016-2017.

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biblicalmonster
2 hours ago, Jjang said:

Because the monsters are determined to deny NRO being the even bigger hit. 

NRO wasn't a bigger hit than MR. :skull:

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2 minutes ago, biblicalmonster said:

NRO wasn't a bigger hit than MR. :skull:

Million Reasons (one of the most promoted songs of the past 5 years, SB, peak carpool, X factor, GMA, Grammys, AMA's, Victoria Secret's Final Show, Alan Carr, Variety, playlists... yada yada) 

 

1,532 days = 497m streams 

 

Never Really Over (zero promo, playlists, a performance she recorded from a public bathroom) 

 

589 days = 462m streams 

 

 

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Just now, Jjang said:

Million Reasons (one of the most promoted songs of the past 5 years, SB, peak carpool, X factor, GMA, Grammys, AMA's, Victoria Secret's Final Show, Alan Carr, Variety, playlists... yada yada) 

 

1,532 days = 497m streams 

 

Never Really Over (zero promo, playlists, a performance she recorded from a public bathroom) 

 

589 days = 462m streams 

 

 

Yeah and they're getting the same amount of streams. Now bring up pure sales, YouTube views, parent album sales :)

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1 minute ago, Jjang said:

Million Reasons (one of the most promoted songs of the past 5 years, SB, peak carpool, X factor, GMA, Grammys, AMA's, Victoria Secret's Final Show, Alan Carr, Variety, playlists... yada yada) 

 

1,532 days = 497m streams 

 

Never Really Over (zero promo, playlists, a performance she recorded from a public bathroom) 

 

589 days = 462m streams 

 

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Effortless dragging

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3 minutes ago, biblicalmonster said:

Yeah and they're getting the same amount of streams. Now bring up pure sales, YouTube views, parent album sales :)

What are the monthly streams of each song, as well as what's the playlist exposure? 

 

Either way, they have similar amount of streams despite the fact that Gaga had a 1,000 days advantage + promoted it to a total of like... ~ 500 million viewers. Katy: 0. 

 

 

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romonster

In 2021, Million Reasons is 3x platinum.

 

In 2021, Million Reasons gets more recurrent streams than many of 2016's biggest hits.

 

In 2021, Million Reasons will reach half a billion streams on Spotify.

 

In 2021, Million Reasons has established itself as a staple and remembered hit in her discography.

 

ATRL, for the love of God, stop living in the past. No one cares about its Hot 100 run in 2016, no one cares about its year-end chart placement in 2016. What we care about is how the song has progressed throughout the years.

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6 minutes ago, romonster said:

In 2021, Million Reasons is 3x platinum.

 

In 2021, Million Reasons gets more recurrent streams than many of 2016's biggest hits.

 

In 2021, Million Reasons will reach half a billion streams on Spotify.

 

In 2021, Million Reasons has established itself as a staple and remembered hit in her discography.

 

ATRL, for the love of God, stop living in the past. No one cares about its Hot 100 run in 2016, no one cares about its year-end chart placement in 2016. What we care about is how the song has progressed throughout the years.

In 2018, Shallow was released and blew every other recent Gaga song out of the water, making MR look like a mere decent performance in retrospect, especially given its extensive promo.

 

Stop living in the past indeed. If you look at her career timeline, that song has like the same status as Yoü and I on an American and global commercial level. It's just not worth the argument :deadbanana: LMs are just obsessed with pointing out it didn't flop because A: her solo songs flopping are the norm now; B: it's her last memorable solo single release and you cling to it to pretend she's still a commercial force nowadays even though it's been 4 years ago. By any sane logic, that song did fine but was not a "moment".

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9 minutes ago, Earth Ripper said:

In 2018, Shallow was released and blew every other recent Gaga song out of the water, making MR look like a mere decent performance in retrospect, especially given its extensive promo.

 

Stop living in the past indeed. If you look at her career timeline, that song has like the same status as Yoü and I on an American and global commercial level. It's just not worth the argument :deadbanana: LMs are just obsessed with pointing out it didn't flop because A: her solo songs flopping are the norm now; B: it's her last memorable solo single release and you cling to it to pretend she's still a commercial force nowadays even though it's been 4 years ago. By any sane logic, that song did fine but was not a "moment".

Yoü And I has terrible recurrent streams. Million Reasons turns 5 this year and is definitely more known in the US as well as worldwide.

 

Always Remember Us This Way (a solo!11 song) is a moderate hit with over 500 million Spotify streams, so you can drop the her "solo songs flopping are the norm now" narrative. Even I'll Never Love Again has proven that. Shallow is an excellent song and exactly what people wanted from Gaga and that's why it became the smash hit that it is. 

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biblicalmonster
17 minutes ago, Earth Ripper said:

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Effortless dragging

MR: 1,7M pure sales

NRO: 200k pure sales

 

MR: 350M+ views

NRO: 140M+ views

 

Give it up deelishis :skull:

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7 minutes ago, romonster said:

Yoü And I has terrible recurrent streams. Million Reasons turns 5 this year and is definitely more known in the US as well as worldwide.

 

Always Remember Us This Way (a solo!11 song) is a moderate hit with over 500 million Spotify streams, so you can drop the her "solo songs flopping are the norm now" narrative. Even I'll Never Love Again has proven that. Shallow is an excellent song and exactly what people wanted from Gaga and that's why it became the smash hit that it is. 

But she ditched the AC genre to go back to her regular dance-pop and is tanking again, so this argument isn't worth much. It actually only strengthens my point: compared to the ASIB era MR clearly wasn't commercially competitive. And that's fine, I still don't get what's the problem here. It did fine but it wasn't a moment. No one's dragging MR for being a flop. But it shouldn't be praised for being a smash either.

8 minutes ago, biblicalmonster said:

MR: 1,7M pure sales

NRO: 200k pure sales

 

MR: 350M+ views

NRO: 140M+ views

 

Give it up deelishis :skull:

No one's actually comparing their sales or views, what are you on about. It's about magnitude. In the grand scope of things NRO wasn't a hit but was a surprisingly good performance given her recent flopping. Same story applies to MR, except MR was promoted to hell and back and given the biggest platform in the U.S. possible. That's the only reason it's mentioned here.

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AllyGayTor

MR is a moderate hit and a talent show staple. Definitely her ballad classics

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19 hours ago, Konan said:

Hot 100:

#76 - / - #57 - #57 - #96 - / - #52 - #62 - #70 - #83 - #86 - #96 - / - #97 - / - #4 - #18 - #30 - #30 - #29 - #38 - #46 - #37 - #41 - /

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6 hours ago, DoctorIce said:

Sail by Awolnation had a terrible chart run with a lower peak than MR and is still a 6x Platinum hit song. Imagine putting Billboard's radio-determined chart runs on a higher pedestal than wilful streams and sales accumulated over 4 years. Worms for brains.

 

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The NERVE to make this comparaison. “Sail” literally sold 6.3M pure sales in the US, it has almost 600M streams on Spotify, over 500M views on YouTube and spent 79 WEEKS in the hot100. MR only sold 1.3M and spent 20 weeks on the charts :toofunny2: One is CLEARLY bigger and more of a hit than the other, both by Billboard chart methodology and by pure sales numbers + streaming numbers.

 

MR is a flop, give it up Deelishis.

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