Jude Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Sept said: Ari misses top 3 by 150 copies Miley -37% 2nd week Let's hope BB have her at #3. Ariana and Miley the only girls in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 52 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said: Ariana doing 13k Pure sales this week flop era they said. Shawn Miley Cyrus #10 Yaaaasss!! a -37% decline, usually all albums get a -70% during 2nd week! Dua Lipa Future Nostalgia 17k up 8% refuse to exit the Top 50 Dua's now up to 963K SPS. She'll reach 1 million in 2-3 weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 53 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said: Ariana doing 13k Pure sales this week flop era they said. wow coming for a million this century Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: wow coming for a million this century Time for Ari do Signed Cds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said: Time for Ari do Signed Cds good luck with that demand you speak of, given the total sales #s of her careers Edited December 11, 2020 by fridayteenage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, fridayteenage said: wow coming for a million this century Someone is pressed Ariana and Miley are the only female pop artists this week in the top 10. Edited December 12, 2020 by Jude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, fridayteenage said: good luck with that demand you speak of, given the total sales #s of her careers where did I talk about a demand.... You know what bye! What's your problem WTF! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael196 Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Jude said: Let's hope BB have her at #3. Ariana and Miley the only girls in the top 10. Megan and Carrie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReH2o Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 so close to 100k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jude Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Michael196 said: Megan and Carrie? My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Juanny said: Shawn is supposed to be A-list so it's not exactly good. It's not terrible though. He’s not that A-list to begin with and 100k is kinda the new standard for A-listers I don’t use his music it’s just let’s not act like A-listers are guaranteed to significantly sell more than that kind of number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, Juanny said: Recent A-list pop boy debuts: Jonas Brothers - Happiness Begins - 414K The Weeknd - After Hours - 440K Justin Bieber - Changes - 231K Harry Styles - Fine Like - 431K Post Malone - Hollywood's Bleeding - 489K BTS - Be - 242K A-listers are not guaranteed to sell more, you're right, because Shawn didn't. But he is on the low-end of sales for someone with his enormous of popularity. And IDK how you can argue aside from this low debut that he's not extremely famous. He's 8th most monthly listeners on spotify, numerous 1B+ streamed songs, LOTS of media attention, and LOTS social media followers. Lots of promo and money went into the campagn for this album rollout. He is absolutely, undeniably one of the biggest celebrities right now so the sub-100K figure is definitely low for him no matter how you spin it. Anybody considered remotely A-list should expect to be above 100K. Even AC/DC outsold him a few weeks ago and they're a band way past their peak. Luke Combs even did almost 200K a while back. Someone sounds pressed OT: Congrats Shawn, 95k is good I really didn't except more with no tour bundles. He would have prolly matched Self titled if bundles were included i think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 57 minutes ago, Juanny said: Recent A-list pop boy debuts: Jonas Brothers - Happiness Begins - 414K The Weeknd - After Hours - 440K Justin Bieber - Changes - 231K Harry Styles - Fine Like - 431K Post Malone - Hollywood's Bleeding - 489K Jonas Bros had a tour bundles as im sure Harry, Justin, Post did too They would have been way less without those Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Juanny said: I'm literally not, I like Shawn I'm just being objective here and providing receipts for my argument as opposed to your only argument is me being pressed? If you were to rank the #1 debut numbers this year 95K is in the lower percentile. It is not "good", but I wouldn't call it "horrible" since it is still a #1 debut. Shawn's highest debut was 182k with bundles why would u expect him to do more when Wonder and Monster were not major hits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Cream Skies Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Shawn's, like, 22. He shouldn't be declining already. This is bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Juanny said: I don't know Shawn's highest debut with 182k with bundles. I'm just saying that 98K is not very good for an A-list pop star. And it's not. Ok ur right itd ****ing terrible omg he flopped so hard wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Ice Cream Skies said: Shawn's, like, 22. He shouldn't be declining already. This is bad. I doubt he cares with his net worth of 50 m dollars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Juanny said: Well my argument isn't that he flopped hard. 98K is just enough for us to think that he has a fan base behind him, he might need better material the next time around. He's in that age and popularity level where he can be really huge if he just puts out something that connects. This could be his Dangerous Woman era. But 98K isn't the tea and he's capable of way more than that with his level of celebrity. Oh well. He could retire right now and be set for life. Wish I could retire at 22 and have millions lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yuanyu Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Insanity said: I doubt he cares with his net worth of 50 m dollars Then why is he releasing music? I don't understand why you mention money when the topic is his music career Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, Juanny said: He doesn't want to retire at 22. He wants to leave a musical legacy like all the artists in his position. Anyways, all I was trying to say is that 100K is NOT the average debut for a popular artist. It's not even the average for a #1 debut in 2020 (it's more around Ariana's debut, ~180K) and Shawn just needs to release something better next time. It's not being pressed, it's making a factual observation and no amount of tangential deflections from you is going to change that. Personally, I thought Wonder was really good and his best LP yet but that's not the topic. He's still young though so he can recover or become irrelevant like many before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shendelzare Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, Yuanyu said: Then why is he releasing music? I don't understand why you mention money when the topic is his music career nothing left to brag about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josesuxx Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Miley getting a second week in the top 10 and just 300 copies behind #9 The drop being just -37% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Juanny said: Recent A-list pop boy debuts: Jonas Brothers - Happiness Begins - 414K The Weeknd - After Hours - 440K Justin Bieber - Changes - 231K Harry Styles - Fine Like - 431K Post Malone - Hollywood's Bleeding - 489K BTS - Be - 242K A-listers are not guaranteed to sell more, you're right, because Shawn didn't. But he is on the low-end of sales for someone with his enormous of popularity. And IDK how you can argue aside from this low debut that he's not extremely famous. He's 8th most monthly listeners on spotify, numerous 1B+ streamed songs, LOTS of media attention, and LOTS social media followers. Lots of promo and money went into the campagn for this album rollout. He is absolutely, undeniably one of the biggest celebrities right now so the sub-100K figure is definitely low for him no matter how you spin it. Anybody considered remotely A-list should expect to be above 100K. Even AC/DC outsold him a few weeks ago and they're a band way past their peak. Luke Combs even did almost 200K a while back. You should update yourself like everyone else did with the fact that there’s a rule change lately discounting bundles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doonerr Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 Remember when dropping in December guaranteed a big opening? Good times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcylcy Posted December 12, 2020 Share Posted December 12, 2020 55 minutes ago, Juanny said: Like that’s going to change much Now you’re saying that yes it changes a lot You’re basically just setting your fave up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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