Riot Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 On par with Romance, they're really made for each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgos Groove Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Like girlfriend, like boyfriend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinashegrande6 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Brando said: Now they need to remove website sales for songs. I don't know why they continue letting that fraud slip What's the tea with those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yog Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, LustSpell said: shows just how good the bundle change was Tour bundles could still count if “opt in” but with this pandemic nobody has took the chance to test that out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratviolo Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Awful numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Tinashegrande6 said: What's the tea with those? Check the stats of this week's #1 on Hot 100 #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes N/A Radio Yet it's #1 thanks to unverifiable website sales. Billboard keeps allowing those sales and we keep getting more and more fake #1s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted December 5, 2020 ATRL Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2020 Aren't these like really good numbers considering the new rules and him not having a hit? Haven't listened to the album yet but I was so sure it was gonna get 70k max. It felt like there was NO hype whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted December 5, 2020 ATRL Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2020 Just now, Brando said: Check the stats of this week's #1 on Hot 100 #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes N/A Radio Yet it's #1 thanks to unverifiable website sales. Billboard keeps allowing those sales and we keep getting more and more fake #1s. Wait what? That's insane. Where are the 'sales' even coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheVelvetRope Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 119k → 145k → 182k → 95k Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obsession Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 This is bad for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Ampersand13 said: Wait what? That's insane. Where are the 'sales' even coming from? From the same 2/3k fans who keep buying the songs over and over, week after week (well documented, that's how they made Dynamite a multi-week #1 too). They can track the total sales from those websites, but not unique sales like iTunes, so their fans keep abusing the system. Either way, the weight of the sales should be lowered towards the Hot 100 formula. 100k sales and N/A on everything else shouldn't be enough for a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinashegrande6 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Brando said: Check the stats of this week's #1 on Hot 100 #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes N/A Radio Yet it's #1 thanks to unverifiable website sales. Billboard keeps allowing those sales and we keep getting more and more fake #1s. The Deezer and Amazon streams coming through No but seriously um, that's looking very suspicious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATRL Moderator Ampersand13 Posted December 5, 2020 ATRL Moderator Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Brando said: From the same 2/3k fans who keep buying the songs over and over, week after week (well documented, that's how they made Dynamite a multi-week #1 too). They can track the total sales from those websites, but not unique sales like iTunes, so their fans keep abusing the system. Either way, the weight of the sales should be lowered towards the Hot 100 formula. 100k sales and N/A on everything else shouldn't be enough for a #1. Wow, that's truly crazy. As much as I want to keep sales alive, I agree that something needs to change in order to halt this kind of corruption from allowing songs to top the charts unfairly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruelcooper Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 4th era curse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 22 minutes ago, Gabriel Florin said: 119k → 145k → 182k → 95k Yikes tour bundles make a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 26 minutes ago, Brando said: Check the stats of this week's #1 on Hot 100 #400 Apple Music #78 Spotify #24 iTunes N/A Radio Yet it's #1 thanks to unverifiable website sales. Billboard keeps allowing those sales and we keep getting more and more fake #1s. are u saying Wonder is #400 on AM cause its not lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Decent numbers howevr still dissapointed on this album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bad guy Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 The no bundle rules really exposed so many FRAUDS Tanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, Insanity said: tour bundles make a difference Wait I dont remember he used Tour Bundles for "Shawn Mendes" didn't he promote all 2018 & toured all 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Insanity said: are u saying Wonder is #400 on AM cause its not lol Who is Wonder? Life Goes On was #400 most popular song on AM for the week (not right now) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 27 minutes ago, Gabriel Florin said: 119k → 145k → 182k → 95k Yikes The 182k was aided by tour bundles so it would've most defintetely been closer to the 95k figure without it. His second album had them too I think, but to a lower scale as he wasn't a touring force just yet. 2 minutes ago, Insanity said: are u saying Wonder is #400 on AM cause its not lol That's about BTS' single Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Into The Void Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said: Wait I dont remember he used Tour Bundles for "Shawn Mendes" didn't he promote all 2018 & toured all 2019 ST had bundles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan_brit Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Insanity said: ST had bundles Merch Bundles?? no tour bundles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popboi. Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ivan_brit said: Merch Bundles?? no tour bundles? He had both tour and merch bundles. The tour tickets went on sale an entire year before it began. Edited December 5, 2020 by Popboi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lauvender Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 flop, snooze, made no noise it's what he deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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