brraap Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 It was too tone deaf since it was released after the 2016 election when people were riled up and 'purposeful' pop or whatever her team tried to call it seemed like a mockery of poor people since she is the part of the rich that exploits them. But, with that said, imo this song is a harmless reminder of the dangers of capitalism and people tore Katy to threads for no reason Link to post Share on other sites
HonourableVomit Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Mastamaind said: Clunky? What do you exactly mean by that? Crazy we're in a pandemic right now and the references bacame reality. It's too wordy to sing along with and the choice of syllables for repetition in the chorus is just ugly. "Bubble bubble", "trouble trouble" and "dance dance dance to the distortion" are mouthfuls. The whole chorus is so brash and yelly, very monotone after the airy verses. Link to post Share on other sites
Mastamaind Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 14 minutes ago, HonourableVomit said: It's too wordy to sing along with and the choice of syllables for repetition in the chorus is just ugly. "Bubble bubble", "trouble trouble" and "dance dance dance to the distortion" are mouthfuls. The whole chorus is so brash and yelly, very monotone after the airy verses. In a counter-note I think it's commendable that she could pack it up in a chorus, I think it goes a way to prove her talent, don't you think? Edited October 30, 2020 by Mastamaind Link to post Share on other sites
XtinaPetras Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I definitely like it more today than when I first heard it. This era is misunderstood. I think she should've started with Bon Apetit personally. This would've been better as a closer for the era. Link to post Share on other sites
Mastamaind Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, HonourableVomit said: It's too wordy to sing along with and the choice of syllables for repetition in the chorus is just ugly. "Bubble bubble", "trouble trouble" and "dance dance dance to the distortion" are mouthfuls. The whole chorus is so brash and yelly, very monotone after the airy verses. And (I had to add this) I think we can disagree on that. I think the chorus is superb, maybe you should give it a try to enjoy it, and now that we're in a pandemic, you could try to understand better. And if you can't, I can help you out. What do you say? Edited October 30, 2020 by Mastamaind Link to post Share on other sites
MissedTheTrain Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 I think the idea was solid, but the execution was pretty tame all around. But it's still a bop. Link to post Share on other sites
Mastamaind Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 12 hours ago, MissedTheTrain said: I think the idea was solid, but the execution was pretty tame all around. But it's still a bop. The execution was pretty tame? Regarding what? Can you give one example? Link to post Share on other sites
Mirrorcle Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 One of the best pop song until Kylie took it and made it better. Link to post Share on other sites
MissedTheTrain Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, Mastamaind said: The execution was pretty tame? Regarding what? Can you give one example? The basic gist of the song is "we're in a bubble" but doesn't really elaborate any further. Some political songs that are examples of being more direct would be like P!nk's Dear Mr President, or The Chicks' March March. And it's fine, CTTR is solid for what it is, I just wouldn't call it "direct as ****" Link to post Share on other sites
Mastamaind Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, MissedTheTrain said: The basic gist of the song is "we're in a bubble" but doesn't really elaborate any further. Some political songs that are examples of being more direct would be like P!nk's Dear Mr President, or The Chicks' March March. And it's fine, CTTR is solid for what it is, I just wouldn't call it "direct as ****" It actually elaborates in the next line: "So comfortable, we're livin' in a bubble, bubble So comfortable, we cannot see the trouble, trouble" So? Edited October 30, 2020 by Mastamaind Link to post Share on other sites
MissedTheTrain Posted October 30, 2020 Share Posted October 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Mastamaind said: It actually elaborates in the next line: "So comfortable, we're livin' in a bubble, bubble So comfortable, we cannot see the trouble, trouble" So? But, what is the trouble? That's all I'm saying, it says we are living in a bubble away from other things happening, but doesn't elaborate on what those things are. It's fine and works for what it is, I just wouldn't call it "direct". There's nothing really specific in there. Some lyrics from March March that I'd call a bit more direct: Standing with Emma and our sons and daughters Watchin' our youth have to solve our problems Tell the ol' boys in the white bread lobby What they can and can't do with their bodies Temperatures are rising, cities are sinkin' (Ah, cut the ****) (You know your city is sinkin') Lies are truth and truth is fiction Everybody's talkin' Who's gonna listen? What the hell happened in Helsinki? And Dear Mr President What kind of father would take his own daughter's rights away? And what kind of father might hate his own daughter if she were gay? I can only imagine what the first lady has to say You've come a long way from whiskey and cocaine Let me tell you 'bout hard work Minimum wage with a baby on the way Let me tell you 'bout hard work Rebuilding your house after the bombs took them away Let me tell you 'bout hard work Building a bed out of a cardboard box Again, I'm not knocking it, it works fine for a Pop lead single, I just wouldn't call it "direct as ****". Link to post Share on other sites
Mastamaind Posted October 30, 2020 Author Share Posted October 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MissedTheTrain said: But, what is the trouble? That's all I'm saying, it says we are living in a bubble away from other things happening, but doesn't elaborate on what those things are. It's fine and works for what it is, I just wouldn't call it "direct". There's nothing really specific in there. Some lyrics from March March that I'd call a bit more direct: And Dear Mr President Again, I'm not knocking it, it works fine for a Pop lead single, I just wouldn't call it "direct as ****". I see what you mean but I think you should appreciate the song more to actually realize it is direct as ****, another example would be the line "stumbling around like a wasted zombie" which references the numbing that can cause certain types of stimulation. You can also check the references of the music video. You got the part where she's drinking some sort of blue-ish liquid, which references the poisoning of water. There's also the part where a couple is ejected from the park which references cruel immigration laws. So I think you really should check what you're missing in the single, don't you think? Edited October 30, 2020 by Mastamaind Link to post Share on other sites
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