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Kamala Harris exposed for defending prison slave labor

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xDiamondx
19 minutes ago, Sergi91 said:

My goddess the trump re-election committee has infiltrated Atrl and it’s the same 4 users  :toofunny2: 

And all you have to show for is this post INSTEAD of, I dunno, defending why Kamala is enslaving black and brown people in her tenure as a US Attorney. :lmao:

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frenchyisback
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Communion said:

So you want the woman with almost no foreign policy work as VP and her very little, if any, being embarrassing, right-wing, and bad?

 

Whew chile lmao :skull:

She has as much foreign policy as Obama did and more than Trump, Bush, Clinton, Regan & Carter did. (5 of the last 6 president)

 

She sits on the Senate Intelligence Committee and the Homeland Security committee.

 

The way ATRLers would do anything to trash black women :rip:

 

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A Bomb
4 minutes ago, Sirnight said:

There were more people willing to vote in the center than for Bernie, not necessarily Biden. Even Warren wasn't totally on Bernie's side as she isn't his brand of left either: she's a proud reformist while he's more of a revolutionist,  which doesn't sit well with voters as well.

I would love to see the data to back up this claim. The way the lefties have to constantly remind these incorrect talking points. Again, and again. 

FOR 12+ MONTHS BERNIE HAD THE HIGHEST FAVORABILITY, AND THE MAJORITY OF VOTERS SUPPORTED HIS POLICIES. THE LATTER WAS BACKED UP AGAIN WITH EXIT POLLS IN THE FIRST ~20 STATES THAT VOTED. THIS INTANGIBLE MYTH OF "ELECTABILITY" WAS THE REASON WHITE SUBURBAN VOTERS MOVE AROUND TO CANDIDATE TO CANDIDATE FOR THOSE 12+ MONTHS TO RELUCTANTLY END UP WITH BIDEN GIVING HIM THE NOM. 

 

In spite of all these GW Bush Republicans voting in the Dem primary Bernie, and his policies were still the most favorable! These bizarre, and wrong tangents should be left to the psychotics individuals voting for Trump. We accept science, and fact, right?

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Sirnight
4 minutes ago, Bloo said:

Nothing you said dismantles the idea that electability was the fuel behind the consolidation around Biden. A supermajority of Democratic voters support Medicare For All, a bill supported by Sanders and abjectly opposed by Biden. Additionally, every single poll from the primaries showed that a strong majority of Democratic primary voters listed their top priority as “beating Trump”. Electability was the most prolific issue. The other candidates endorsing him all at once made Biden look electable. 
 

As for Warren, she likely was playing politics in the way of hoping for a VP spot. She literally got into the world of politics by opposing Biden on credit card companies. I think it’s... odd to claim she’s more in the vein of Biden politically than Sanders. She very well may be personally. But that’s not why she amassed as much support as she had. People liked her because she gave the impression that she was a legitimate economic populist. 

Electability was sure a factor but they just didn't coalesce around Biden for that. They did because other people freed the space around him, so he wasn't the default option as HRC was seen in 2016 for example. Also, isn't that politics basically? Being able to build a coalition? It speaks to your character and your leadership to have people gather around you, something Sanders has never been able to do. I have respect for him as an individual, because he has been on the right side of many issues. But the guy can't lead, he couldn't even get the young to vote for him when he specifically targeted them. And the 2016 v. 2020 primaries showed that he had better results in 2016 only due to the fact that people hated HRC…

 

Biden has shown leadership and hopefully, when he picks Kamala Harris as his VP, she shows why she deserves to the first female president of your country in 2024. Hopefully by standing her grown and not trying to appease people who despise her anyway. You win by the center.

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Sergi91
9 minutes ago, xDiamondx said:

And all you have to show for is this post INSTEAD of, I dunno, defending why Kamala is enslaving black and brown people in her tenure as a US Attorney. :lmao:

Chile hmm anyways. 
No one here is defending slavery. :ace:

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Can't_M!ss_This

Gross. You know what you're getting with Republicans but you just don't know what you'll get with a Democrat. 

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karron0624

I mean, this was common knowledge and is one of the negative aspects of her record. However we still have an election thread that this would fall under. I don’t understand the point of creating another thread when we have a general thread for this.

 

This should be something she apologizes for regardless of the fact that she was following the orders of her client, because, off of its face, I don’t see any justifiable reason for her to violate the court’s orders for the lowering of the inmate population. It’s sad.

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rihannabiggestfan
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Sirnight said:

If Bernie had had more support during the primaries I would have a different opinion. But he miserably failed to mobilize in a high profile primary to decide who would run against the most hated incumbent of all recent memory in the US. Your people just aren't ready for the socialisation of certain parts the economy. Until they have to experience a Marshall Plan themselves at least.

Not only did Bernie win the largest state in the country, but you realize that you can't compare a DEMOCRAT primary to the general, right? Winning the DEMOCRAT primary doesn't matter if you're PANNED by INDEPENDENTS the way Biden is. It's like how Bernie would have won the general in 2016. The majority party in this country is Independent, I feel like you don't know that! It's not Democrat and it's not Republican. The primary process is FLAWED. There is NO EXCUSE for the fact that every state is NOT open to independents' votes.

 

and Bernie is the candidate with the highest favorability. It's not your beloved Hillary and Biden.

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frenchyisback
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Sirnight said:

 

Also, the far left tends to ignore that M4A means different things for different people.

I never knew that the only plans that qualifies as M4A is the one that totally bannished private insurances. Most Americans are not down with that.  They use the vague term M4A, but then turn around and impose their narrow definition to it that nobody ever agreed to.

 

If you ask about actual policy, then what @Communion defines as the ONLY M4A plan polls worst of all Options:

 

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In a Hill-HarrisX survey released Thursday,

 

13% prefer a health care system that covers all citizens and doesn't allow for private plans, an approach that is sometimes referred to as "single-payer."

 

32%, consisted of a universal, government-operated system that also would allow people to buy private, supplemental insurance.

 

26% said they wanted a government insurance plan offered to all citizens, but one that doesn't compel people with private plans to use it, a system sometimes called a "public option."

 

15% said they wanted the government to completely remove itself from paying for health care,

 

14% said they want to keep the existing health care system intact

 

https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/428958-poll-voters-want-the-government-to-provide-healthcare-for

 

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Also, Biden ran on a platform and he won. Changing the platform now and doing what he spend the entire campaign denouncing and proudly attacking at debates after debates would be the worst type of sleezy politics the left pretends to hate when it doesn't fit their goals.

The fact that the left thinks it's ok for a politician to run on something and then turn around and do the exact opposite as soon as elected :rip:

The American left and basically acting like any other lobby (i.e. NRA)  trying to subvert the will of the people through fancy spin.blockquote widgetblockquote widget

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Breathe On Moi
2 hours ago, rihannabiggestfan said:

Cringe. Biden could literally rape and shoot someone on 5th Avenue, and you would still vote for him cuz "Trump bad!", wouldn't you? Get some standards.

 

And nice try with that fake news. No one in this thread supports Trump

I like you but Lordy lord I can’t believe you’re using this logic when this is literally the ideal of trump supporters. :biblio:

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rihannabiggestfan
3 minutes ago, Breathe On Moi said:

I like you but Lordy lord I can’t believe you’re using this logic when this is literally the ideal of trump supporters. :biblio:

:hug:

 

Imo, I suppose Trump supporters would keep supporting Trump if he did that because they love him too much. But Biden supporters? Not because they love Biden but because they HATE Trump.

 

If the Republican was a reasonable/sane Republican more like Romney and less like Trump, it would be MUCH harder for Biden to gain people's support cuz at that point, lines like "Trump bad!" wouldn't be enough

 

It's kinda like what ClashAndBurn said, emphasis on "based on popularity". Being viewed as the lesser of 2 evils doesn't make one popular. Trump may have far more haters than Biden, but he has far more passionate supporters too. If there wasn't a pandemic going on rn (and Trump handling it terribly), "Trump bad" may not have been enough to inspire people to get out and win the electoral college - a Hillary tea. The standards have been lowered

 

 

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frenchyisback
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33 minutes ago, rihannabiggestfan said:

Not only did Bernie win the largest state in the country, but you realize that you can't compare a DEMOCRAT primary to the general, right? Winning the DEMOCRAT primary doesn't matter if you're PANNED by INDEPENDENTS the way Biden is. It's like how Bernie would have won the general in 2016. The majority party in this country is Independent, I feel like you don't know that! It's not Democrat and it's not Republican. The primary process is FLAWED. There is NO EXCUSE for the fact that every state is NOT open to independents' votes.

 

and Bernie is the candidate with the highest favorability. It's not your beloved Hillary and Biden.

Still confusing sexism and Clinton Derrangement syndrome fed over 2 decades to actual support for Bernie?

 

So what happened in 2020 when he ran against another white man in MI and all over the Midwest?

 

Also, Biden won the swing demographies: white without a college degree & suburbans. Both won by Trump in 2016.

 

Young, latinX and activists are not voting Trump, EVER! Those are green party or socialist type "independents".

 

In the general election, last time I checked, Biden was winning real independent/moderates 2-1 against Trump.

 

Also, during the primary, Biden consistently outpolls Bernie Vs Trump.

 

From Jan-April, Bernie averaged a 2-5 point lead on Trump

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-6250.html

 

While Biden averages a 5-8 point lead in the same timeline.

 

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

 

 

Favorability ratings is irrelevant when you are not engaged in an actual election. People can like you as the cool crazy uncle, but it does not mean they want to make you president.

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Karla Cabello

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frenchyisback
2 hours ago, Communion said:

 

Also why do all the people supporting Biden type in non-American English? Why is his most dedicated following not even American? 

The way the Bros have exposed themselves this election seasons with their Wannabe-Trump impressions. They started attacking black voters after South Carolina, then they spent the last 3 months attacking one accomplished women of color after the other (including Sen Duckworth). And now, they are even singling out people based on their English or citizenship. :rofl: 

 

The sweet irony from the morality police!

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ClashAndBurn

At the very least, Trump is popular among his base because he represents the wants and the values of the people (be it racial grievance or the idea of a Christian theocratic dystopia that makes Handmaid's Tale look tame) who elected him to office, for better or worse. Democrats like Kamala and Biden refuse to represent the values of the people that elected them (supermajority support for Medicare For All, marijuana legalization, tougher stance on Israeli annexation of Palestine, etc.) and instead cozy up to the same corporate donor class that would still rather have Republicans in power because they have much more to gain in the form of lower taxes and regulations.

 

The Democratic Party is, in short, a joke.

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ClashAndBurn
1 minute ago, frenchyisback said:

The way the Bros have exposed themselves this election seasons with their Wannabe-Trump impressions. They started attacking black voters after South Carolina, then they spent the last 3 months attacking one accomplished women of color after the other (including Sen Duckworth). And now, they are even singling out people based on their English or citizenship. :rofl: 

 

The sweet irony from the morality police!

The opinions of conservative black voters in South Carolina shouldn't carry the most weight of any group of people in the country when their vote is among the most irrelevant and powerless when it comes to the general election. People pretended their values were consistent across ALL groups of black people throughout the country, and the DNC assumed that Biden was the one that all black people were getting behind. That makes THEM the racists, honey.

 

What do you care though? You're sitting pretty with your six-figure salary regardless while the rest of us are suffering with what amounts to less than SCRAPS.

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rihannabiggestfan
1 hour ago, xDiamondx said:

And all you have to show for is this post INSTEAD of, I dunno, defending why Kamala is enslaving black and brown people in her tenure as a US Attorney. :lmao:

Because he, like Kamala, lacks substance :lakitu:

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Communion
1 hour ago, frenchyisback said:

She has as much foreign policy as Obama did 

Might not want to use Barack "Drone Bomb" Obama as a goal when it comes to foreign policy, I- :skull:

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frenchyisback
1 minute ago, ClashAndBurn said:

The opinions of conservative black voters in South Carolina shouldn't carry the most weight of any group of people in the country when their vote is among the most irrelevant and powerless when it comes to the general election. 

:rip:

Maybe you don't care about congress but constitutionally, they are the most powerful branch of government and the house controls the pur$e.

 

Those "conservative black" people in those southern states send more democrats to congress than IA or NH could ever dream of.

 

Those "conservative" southern black districts sent the most Dems in congress and with the most consistency of any district in the US. That is why they were given the most delegates doe the convention.

 

But what does someone who supports an independent I'm the DEMOCRATIC primary would know about democratic politics? 

 

Coming into our house we literally built to insult us..smh! Wannabe Trumpsters!

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Communion
Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, frenchyisback said:

Those "conservative black" people in those southern states send more democrats to congress than IA or NH could ever dream of.

What ? :skull:

 

South Carolina:
Senators - 0/2
Representatives - 2/7

 

Iowa:
Senators - 0/2
Representatives - 3/4

 

New Hampshire: 
Senators - 2/2
Representatives - 2/2

 

Nevada:

Senators - 2/2

Representatives - 3/4

 

South Carolina is "redder" than both Iowa and New Hampshire in every branch of government, which is why a Democratic presidential candidate hasn't won the state in like 40 years. :skull:

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ClashAndBurn
3 minutes ago, frenchyisback said:

:rip:

Maybe you don't care about congress but constitutionally, they are the most powerful branch of government and the house controls the pur$e.

 

Those "conservative black" people in those southern states send more democrats to congress than IA or NH could ever dream of.

 

Those "conservative" southern black districts sent the most Dems in congress and with the most consistency of any district in the US. That is why they were given the most delegates doe the convention.

 

But what does someone who supports an independent I'm the DEMOCRATIC primary would know about democratic politics? 

 

Coming into our house we literally built to insult us..smh! Wannabe Trumpsters!

It's a fallacy to assume that those voters in SC wouldn't have voted the same way in the general election if anyone other than Biden were the nominee. They're among the ones who vote blue no matter who. It's the black voters that didn't turn out in Milwaukee, Detroit, and Philadelphia that should have been catered to, and they didn't even have a chance to make their voice heard at all before the DNC and Obama made the decision for them and the primary was effectively scuttled in Biden's favor by a pandemic that threatened voters' lives.

 

A little perspective and introspection on your part would be nice, but I certainly don't expect it.

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frenchyisback
1 minute ago, Communion said:

Might not want to use Barack "Drone Bomb" Obama as a goal when it comes to foreign policy, I- :skull:

You disagreeing with his policy don't make him any less qualify.

He won the presidential election twice by age 55 and is the only democrats since FDR to win twice with 50%+. The people approve:cm:

 

What would you know about foreign policy competence anyway?

You support someone who had his honey moon in the Soviet Union and failed twice to even get the nomination.

His foreign policy claim to fame is his soft spot for Latin American socialist dictators.

Nearing 80yo, he ll always be just another Also-ran. :skull:

 

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ClashAndBurn
2 minutes ago, Communion said:

What ? :skull:

 

South Carolina:
Senators - 0/2
Representatives - 2/7

 

Iowa:
Senators - 0/2
Representatives - 3/4

 

New Hampshire: 
Senators - 2/2
Representatives - 2/2

 

Nevada:

Senators - 2/2

Representatives - 3/4

 

South Carolina is "redder" than both Iowa and New Hampshire in every branch of government, which is why a Democratic presidential candidate hasn't won the state in like 40 years. :skull:

I also like how they cherrypicked Iowa and NH, even though I was referring to black voters OTHER than the conservative ones in SC (like the ones who sat out in WI, MI, and PA). And those states they chose as a gotcha were... overwhelmingly white...

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Communion
41 minutes ago, frenchyisback said:

]Young, latinX and activists are not voting Trump, EVER! Those are green party or socialist type "independents".

 

In the general election, last time I checked, Biden was winning real independent/moderates 2-1 against Trump.

Believing in the politically illiterate myth that independents are ideologically moderate...

 

Suddenly everything makes sense. :skull:

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Communion
4 minutes ago, frenchyisback said:

You disagreeing with his policy don't make him any less qualify

I think all the dead Libyans and Syrians he drone-bombed would probably be evidence of said lesser quality, to be fair.

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