Buddy! Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 One of the key things that helped me get through as many Tribals as I did was how I socialized with players in the very first weekend of the game, before first tribes were even formed. How did you utilize this time and how did it affect your game? I did the exact same thing sdfg. I made a "10 person alliance" but it was mostly just, if we were on the same tribe we'd work with each other type of deal. I wanted it to include people that I knew, along with people that I figured would be silent killers so to speak. An advantage that I had going into this season was my connection with a lot of the games girlies. I'm friends/friendly with a majority of them so it was pretty easy to mingle, say "hey bitch let's do this" etc. I credit pouncing on making an alliance early which helped shape my social game. Again, as you mentioned, I was never targeted, did not receive a single vote against me, so I believe my pre-planning helped a lot. The fact that all three of you were on the outs of the Merge/Z vote and managed to annihilate everyone in the majority vote that round is absolutely INCREDIBLE. I want to know each of your contributions in the planning and execution of that, since I’d imagine it was intentional. Ok so here is tea. I def had my hand deep in that kipper tribal hehe. First, I wanna paint you exactly what lead up to that and how everything went down. Rounds prior, I had planted seeds (this is how I did most of my early pre-merge evictions btw) to several people in the game. First, in my group chat with drip and kaeli, I had mentioned that kipper was super dangerous and had to go asap. They both agreed, I explained what he could do in this game, etc. Following that, I had also mentioned the same to Tom, and later on once we were deciding I was the one who pushed for kipper to go. Tom being such an open mind really helped a lot. Bey and I did talk, yes, but I told her first that kipper was the threat to take out and not eri/kiwi. When I make a move, I go big or go home and I saw kipper as the bigger threat of the three. I knew he was planting seeds about me to others, so I decided to strike first this time. Let's talk about the vote itself. When we found out results yvess and I had decided that kipper was the person to take out, even though we entertained the thought of kiwi going as well, that was never what I wanted and that was never going to happen if I had anything to do with it. I caught wind that kipper was targeting lucky and I took full advantage. I went to Tom with that info and made sure he knew (because I knew yall were close.) I knew that I had to pick up you and Tom in order for the vote to even work, and I knew that star/kaeli would be down if yvess and I pressured them to do it. I also went to Dussy and told him, and dussy told me things kipper said about me (mostly that I was sneaky which is tea hehe.) I also collected gat's vote, mostly because him and I were close and the pure aspect of Kipper being a huge threat with the potential to make it all the way to the end again was too much of a risk to keep him. The result? Kipper ended up going by me jumping back and forth between both sides. I brought both sides together after having my back against the wall. I blindsided eri/kiwi/kipper when they all thought I was voting out dussy. I flipped the game right back into my favor and honestly this was probably my defining moment (and arguably of the entire game.) I read the room and I knew that if kipper stayed another round, he'd do a lot of damage. The baby z blindside was rough, I was so upset but all it did was light a fire under my ass and I knew if I didn't strike then I probably wouldn't have made it to the final 3. Everything I had done rounds prior (planting the nltm seed to take him out, kipper seed, etc) lead to this exact moment that more than likely helped me coast to the final 3. While, this wasn't all my doing seeing as I needed a majority of votes, and yes, in the end we all agreed that Kipper was the one that had to go. Editing this post 'cause I thought of a new one (I swear I'm done adding): I'm clearly a player who didn't mind damaging my game for the sake of a good bond I had with another player + change of pace / entertainment value. Did any of the three of you "struggle" with this (I use this term loosely) & if so, how? I suppose. There's only one person i'd risk my game for and that was Baby z tbh. He knew damn well i would've idoled him so fast if it meant keeping him safe. While that might seem messy, I entertained the thought of using my idol on him to take out several people if I knew a vote would've happened. I do love entertaining the girls (ask the viewers) but Idk, I wanted to protect my game and appearance as possible and not stick my neck out too much. I needed to keep my "middle game" appearance untouched. We hadn’t spoken until close to the Merge and I didn’t gather much information for your pre-Merge game while in Jury, so details of your game are the most missing for me. You’d been to a few Tribals. Based on what I know about your style of gameplay, I’m kind of surprised I haven’t heard anything about trying to get someone other than prézli out — did the thought cross your mind / did you try to make that happen? I'm gonna split this up a bit and answer in bits. Pre-merge was weird, but I certainly did more than just try to take prezli out. That prezli round vs urban was weird, at first I threw urban out there as a vote to the group ( I was aligned with kipper, touch it and nltm) and kinda painted him as a big threat and it stuck and everyone agreed. But then I thought hmmm, why not take prezli out since urban is someone I could work with later down the line. I did indeed try but honestly if either of them stayed/went it wouldn't have mattered in the grand scheme of things. Actually, if anything, urban going brought me closer to Tom and we continued our game together until final 5. The marvin vote sdfghj now yes, that's when I took the Temptation idol and lost two votes. Mind you, those votes were only if I went to tribal. So I lost a vote that round and when I hit the merge. It was bb z, nltm, yvess and marvin. Marvin, bb z were set to vote out yvess, and we fake baited nltm to vote out bb z and I wouldn't vote at all since I couldn't. Now then yvess used his necklace which caused so much drama and I panicked and made sure the vote tied thus saving BB z from going lol. Now for the third and final one, I know I didn't directly vote her out but certainly I made nltm look like a huge threat. I planted her being a huge threat to several people, and she had been a target of mine for rounds because I knew she was connected with kipper. I wanted to make sure kipper lost a number but also take out a huge threat. When I said "**** you" to nltm in the games chat, that was my way of trying to villianize her coupled with telling people that she had to go because she was a comp beast and a threat that could go deep into the final 10. I had my hands in a lot I just didn't show my cards. And as for the “TEMPTATION” Idol, do you think you needed it to get to the Final Three, or could you have made it to the end even if you declined it? Hmm, good question. I'm gonna go with both. It never hurts to have an idol in your hands, especially knowing anything could happen in this game. My main objective to taking it was to make sure nobody else would get it. I knew if I sacrificed 2 votes that i'd be fine because my social game was that strong. But also, in the back of my mind I wanted to make sure I got it in case I slipped up and got caught in some mess and needed it to save myself. Honestly, me telling nearly everyone that I had an idol low key helped me, and kipper exposing me kinda did me more good than harm. It exposed me, yeah, but people knew that I could use that idol at any time and punch them out had I caught wind. I'm tacking on another one while editing — did a tribemate of yours ever submit a song you suggested for any of the pre-Merge challenges? Would you be able to explain a little bit further? I'm not entirely sure what you mean.
Lucky#17 Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Buddy! said: I made a "10 person alliance" but it was mostly just, if we were on the same tribe we'd work with each other type of deal. Who were the 10players in the "alliance"? 4 hours ago, Buddy! said: Would you be able to explain a little bit further? I'm not entirely sure what you mean. An example would be me submitting "Optimistic" for one of the rounds when Kaeli suggested it in our tribe chat. All throughout pre-Merge I looked for entries for tribemates of mine to use if we were coming up short / needed stronger entries + used songs suggested by my tribemates if I felt it was better than anything I'd found myself. We were never on a tribe together which is why I'm asking.
True Skarlet Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Oh wow, let me blindly root for my fellow ADR sister @Buddy!.
Dylan' Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 @Yvess you did so well I thought you would be a goner sooner like the other fallen oldtrl players
thecptz Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 so proud of the final 3 my partner/my ride-or-die/my everything @Buddy!. my BEST friend/my elder @Staryu. my queen/my 'who are you'/my iconic tingz @Bey_Rihstan. we started the game together so i'm just so happy. may the best player win
Staryu Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 1 hour ago, thecptz said: so proud of the final 3 my partner/my ride-or-die/my everything @Buddy!. my BEST friend/my elder @Staryu. my queen/my 'who are you'/my iconic tingz @Bey_Rihstan. we started the game together so i'm just so happy. may the best player win ily Baby
Dylan' Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 @Bey_Rihstan it’s hard to trust your word knowing you found B7 to be listenable. How do you recover from such a credibility blow?
dussymob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 @Buddy! “Honestly, me telling nearly everyone that I had an idol low key helped me“
dussymob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) @Buddy! @Bey_Rihstan @Staryu Tribal Question Congrats to the three of you on making final tribal a feat only one of you’ve done previously and another being robbed of cuz the host likes to play games (jk)..and another who will have their first time in the final three. You three played very different games honestly. The road was tough and y’all did great but I do believe some played better than others in all aspects. My mind is honestly between two of you. So with that I want to say to Kaeli that I do like you a lot but I honestly know nothing about you. I’ve reached out to talk a few times but barely ever got a response. I think you could’ve easily win this game had you communicated with the jury more and most of us agreed so could you give me your thoughts on why you chose to be less social in that aspect and how it can change my mind on giving you a vote. To Staryu: you played a great fluid game and worked really hard to get here and I’m super proud you didn’t give up this time like you did last season. But I heard from Yvess of a Staryu core alliance with you, him, buddy, and Kaeli that I didn’t know too much about but only suspected and was confirmed when you told me I was going at final 6. So I just would like to know what was the thought process for not including me in that and why you feel you deserve my vote over giving it to Buddy who I feel played a good game as well. To Buddy: You played a dominant game all the way through but was quiet about in my eyes for the first half. I think you excellent social skills as so many never turned on you and you received no votes. I was listening to your answers to Lucky and need some clarification. Did you know about the temptation clues prior to me asking you about it since you played like you was clueless about it and since you told the majority of the players about it and not me what was the reason to keep me out the loop and finally was out alliance we formed genuine? Edited August 22, 2020 by dussymob
Bey_Rihstan Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 3 hours ago, Dylan' said: @Bey_Rihstan it’s hard to trust your word knowing you found B7 to be listenable. How do you recover from such a credibility blow? FFFFFSVBSHSHDNDNDNDNDN
Staryu Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, dussymob said: But I heard from Yvess of a Staryu core alliance with you, him, buddy, and Kaeli that I didn’t know too much about but only suspected and was confirmed when you told me I was going at final 6. So I just would like to know what was the thought process for not including me in that and why you feel you deserve my vote over giving it to Buddy who I feel played a good game as well. I did not include you in that because I could tell they were iffy about you and I thought they would trust me less if I tried to force you into the alliance, so instead I sold you to them as a 100% loyal vote for our alliance and that when the time comes I'll do what I have to do, but until then I made sure to stress how important you were for our numbers and I tried to keep you with me as long as I could. I feel I did hint to you a lot that I was working with them, but I never did confirm an actual alliance with them and I'm sorry for that, I just felt like I had to keep our duo separate from that alliance so I wouldn't look as threatening to them in the end game, even though everyone obviously knew we were close. I feel I deserve your vote over Buddy and Kaeli because I played the game as hard as I could, both as a solo player and a team player and because of my social game. In the early game I supported my team 100%, I never played shady or dirty, I did my best to make the decisions that benefited everyone I was working with and myself. I was loyal to my people the entire game and still managed to put myself in the best position that I could while bringing my allies with me. I had you, Kaeli, and Yvess with me from the start and we all made final 6, I think I played a huge part in that. I made final 3 without winning any immunities and without having any votes cast against me until I was the only option available to receive a vote (from Tom) in final 5. I played my idol on you successfully and took out the biggest threat in this game, I earned my way into the final 3 via the fire challenge, I only voted the wrong way one time (the Baby Z blindside), other than that I was always on the right side of the votes, having been to every tribal council except 2 this entire season. With all that said, I hope you think I deserve your vote, I'm sorry again for not including you in my 2nd half of the game alliance, you were always my #1 though.
Bey_Rihstan Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) @dussymob Hm. I’m going to be honest, I’m not sure why the majority of the jury would agree that I didn’t speak to them when the only one I never had a one on one conversation with was EriKills. I talked to everyone in the main discord thread and discussed game with everyone else at least once. At a certain point, the line in the sand was drawn and we knew who was on what side. That didn’t make me treat anyone any differently, though. I responded to everyone (including you) that reached out to me and I’ve reached out as well. what I will say, however, is that I played a clean game, was extremely loyal, never betrayed an ally, played a pivotal role in various strategic decisions the entire game and even won a couple of comps. For you personally, alongside Staryu, I was the one that was campaigning for you to stay for a few more rounds after everyone was coming for you. I feel that those gameplay qualities are stronger than not forcing conversations with anyone. In fact, in a lot of those conversations, I was the last person to say anything I hardly think my social game should be “questioned” as I only received one vote the entire game. And that was only because there was no other option. I played a quiet game, but I still had a voice. That was my strategy the entire time. If you guys feel slighted by me not offering up much personal info one on one, I apologize! If it makes you feel any better, I really only talked game with my allies as well. Thanks for the question! Edited August 22, 2020 by Bey_Rihstan
dussymob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 @Bey_Rihstan For what it’s worth everyone also agreed you was most likable just that you wasn’t too good with communication but thank you and I do believe you did an great job.
Buddy! Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 14 hours ago, Lucky#17 said: Who were the 10players in the "alliance"? An example would be me submitting "Optimistic" for one of the rounds when Kaeli suggested it in our tribe chat. All throughout pre-Merge I looked for entries for tribemates of mine to use if we were coming up short / needed stronger entries + used songs suggested by my tribemates if I felt it was better than anything I'd found myself. We were never on a tribe together which is why I'm asking. 10 person "alliance" was just people I felt like a had any sort of connection to. Whether we were friends, to people i've played with, to people baby z knew, or even just acquaintances. For example, bb z told me nick could be trusted, and I knew kipper and nltm was also someone I knew but I also knew he was close with kipper. Now I never talked to Nick in my life prior to this, I figured he could be trusted. I explained the dynamics a bit better in my final speech btw. - And I'll be honest with you, I don't remember if anyone picked a specific song I suggested, but during these early rounds we all helped one another. Everyone suggested songs and we discussed them. Acron 2.0 was perfect at this, we literally broke tribal records for how great our scores were. We all worked together to ensure that happened, whether it be suggesting songs or giving feedback. 2 hours ago, dussymob said: @Buddy! @Bey_Rihstan @Staryu Tribal Question To Buddy: You played a dominant game all the way through but was quiet about in my eyes for the first half. I think you excellent social skills as so many never turned on you and you received no votes. I was listening to your answers to Lucky and need some clarification. Did you know about the temptation clues prior to me asking you about it since you played like you was clueless about it and since you told the majority of the players about it and not me what was the reason to keep me out the loop and finally was out alliance we formed genuine? Hey king, I did not notice the letters til you told me, yes. Honestly I didn't really pay attention to results unless my tribe lost hehe. And I didn't tell a majority of players that was kinda a bit of an exaggeration on my part. I told bbz/kipper/yvess/star/drip and kaeli though sfdghg which is still a lot. But i'm sure they told others too and word got around (like I know for a fact kipper told kiwi and eri). I didn't wanna tell you because I felt bad that you told me it and I ended up winning. But also at the time we weren't really that close imo? Like it wasn't like I intentionally kept it from you. I just didn't know where you stood fully at the time. Over the course of the game we got closer and I told you more. And yes, genuinely did like you and respected you that I did not lie about. As far as the alliance, sort of. Like, I knew keeping you in the game was good for my game because you were a huge target for whatever reason, and I knew you'd be a great person to hide behind. So yes, I was true to my word when I said I wanted to work with you. I remember you telling me to keep you and use you as a shield nnnn. But also, I voted with you for a majority of the merge.
dussymob Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 21 minutes ago, Buddy! said: 10 person "alliance" was just people I felt like a had any sort of connection to. Whether we were friends, to people i've played with, to people baby z knew, or even just acquaintances. For example, bb z told me nick could be trusted, and I knew kipper and nltm was also someone I knew but I also knew he was close with kipper. Now I never talked to Nick in my life prior to this, I figured he could be trusted. I explained the dynamics a bit better in my final speech btw. - And I'll be honest with you, I don't remember if anyone picked a specific song I suggested, but during these early rounds we all helped one another. Everyone suggested songs and we discussed them. Acron 2.0 was perfect at this, we literally broke tribal records for how great our scores were. We all worked together to ensure that happened, whether it be suggesting songs or giving feedback. Hey king, I did not notice the letters til you told me, yes. Honestly I didn't really pay attention to results unless my tribe lost hehe. And I didn't tell a majority of players that was kinda a bit of an exaggeration on my part. I told bbz/kipper/yvess/star/drip and kaeli though sfdghg which is still a lot. But i'm sure they told others too and word got around (like I know for a fact kipper told kiwi and eri). I didn't wanna tell you because I felt bad that you told me it and I ended up winning. But also at the time we weren't really that close imo? Like it wasn't like I intentionally kept it from you. I just didn't know where you stood fully at the time. Over the course of the game we got closer and I told you more. And yes, genuinely did like you and respected you that I did not lie about. As far as the alliance, sort of. Like, I knew keeping you in the game was good for my game because you were a huge target for whatever reason, and I knew you'd be a great person to hide behind. So yes, I was true to my word when I said I wanted to work with you. I remember you telling me to keep you and use you as a shield nnnn. But also, I voted with you for a majority of the merge. Thank you, it was fun getting to work with you after meeting you last season. You did a great job this season and best of luck.
kiiwii Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 Just a warning, these questions are about my relationship with you all. Sorry if they seem self centered, but I do want to clear up how the game with each of you unfolded with myself Hey, @Bey_Rihstan! You are the one I communicated with the absolute least and have little to no relationship with. During our time together on a tribe pre merge, your limit in replying to me made me very wary of you. So once we went into the merge, I no longer attempted to message you because of how little you communicated with me. But I do want to know what your reasoning is that you never messaged me during the merge and if you think you could have gone about this better, despite clearly being on different sides. Hii @Staryu! In one of your previous answers, you mentioned me offering my vote to you down the line was too late, and because you “really liked” your alliance with Buddy, you were willing to vote me out. However when I was booted, you messaged me and said you actually wanted to vote with me, but because only Dussy was willing to vote with us, you ultimately went with the consensus vote for me. So, were you actually considering voting with me or was that just a ploy to try and make me feel safe? Also, there’s been one unanswered question that has been on my mind for a while that maybe you can clear up. During the first merge vote, I was told by Dussy that someone was “lying on my name” and insisted I had started the vote to get him out. At ponderosa, Dussy informed me that it was you who heard it from someone else. Is that true, and if so, who was the one who gave you that information? Hey @Buddy!. Out of the three finalists, you are the one I have the closest relationship with. We played together on my first season and you were one of my closest allies. So, because of this, I do feel the most hurt by you when all the votes came my way. Even though I fully intended to come after you, so I understand hehe. You mentioned considering voting for me instead of kipper that night, so why didn’t you? Especially since we never voted together during my stay in the game. It seems to me that you actually didn’t want to work together and were simply stringing me along until you could vote me out. Is that a fair assumption for me to make about how you played? You're all here sitting at the end, and clearly did something right and better than the rest of us to be where you are. You're all deserving, so best of luck to all 3 of you
Buddy! Posted August 22, 2020 Posted August 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, kiiwii said: Hey @Buddy!. Out of the three finalists, you are the one I have the closest relationship with. We played together on my first season and you were one of my closest allies. So, because of this, I do feel the most hurt by you when all the votes came my way. Even though I fully intended to come after you, so I understand hehe. You mentioned considering voting for me instead of kipper that night, so why didn’t you? Especially since we never voted together during my stay in the game. It seems to me that you actually didn’t want to work together and were simply stringing me along until you could vote me out. Is that a fair assumption for me to make about how you played? Hey luv, what's funny is I explained our scenario a bit in my final answers but I'll dig into it now. You're someone I always wanted to work with, and I expressed interest a few times. But unfortunately I feel like the way everything happened (we were never on tribes together, etc) we never had the chance to fully reconnect. Yeah, I did mention that you were on the line instead of kipper. I did not want to see you go, mostly because I liked you, and I saw myself working with you after he left. So I pushed for kipper instead. I felt like Kipper was like a barrier between you and I working together at that point. Once I voted out Lucky and Eri, I just knew whatever bridge we had built was burned. Which again, is unfortunate because I do feel like we were super close in s8 (and you know I love ya ass.) I knew if I had kept you I would have risked my own game because I knew you were coming for me regardless. You're super smart and you're able to adapt to whatever comes your way, and that's something that I saw and was nervous about. With that being said, I'm happy we were able to play together again and reconnect. Even though it felt short, I was really happy to see you I hope you're doing well.
Lucky#17 Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Thanks for the answers! The three of you went in - I think you've made my job more difficult now. ****.
Staryu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 34 minutes ago, kiiwii said: Hii @Staryu! In one of your previous answers, you mentioned me offering my vote to you down the line was too late, and because you “really liked” your alliance with Buddy, you were willing to vote me out. However when I was booted, you messaged me and said you actually wanted to vote with me, but because only Dussy was willing to vote with us, you ultimately went with the consensus vote for me. So, were you actually considering voting with me or was that just a ploy to try and make me feel safe? Also, there’s been one unanswered question that has been on my mind for a while that maybe you can clear up. During the first merge vote, I was told by Dussy that someone was “lying on my name” and insisted I had started the vote to get him out. At ponderosa, Dussy informed me that it was you who heard it from someone else. Is that true, and if so, who was the one who gave you that information? When you were voted out, Dussy and I both really did want to keep you over Gateau, I thought Gateau was much more of a wildcard than you and would rather have had him gone, I did try to keep you but I did not push that hard because we had never really worked together that much and I already had my solid alliances in place, and Kaeli/Buddy/Yvess were all pretty firm on wanting to vote you out. As for the you and Dussy issue, it was a messy situation. I was told by Kipper that "someone" said you were targeting Dussy, I think he was talking about Tom or Lucky but I never found out for sure. Dussy had told me that Kipper had told him that Buddy wanted him (Dussy) out, and I deflected (b/c I was working with Buddy) and said that "I heard it was erik/kiwi" that wanted you out because I couldn't have Dussy not trusting Buddy and then not voting with us down the line. So to simplify this mess, there was just a lot of power struggles going on at the time and I threw your name out to deflect basically. I'm sorry I never tried harder to work with you, I just had my eggs in so many baskets already, I already felt like I was overplaying and I was already working on trying to get Erik as an ally and I figured if we worked together, you would be included with Erik because everyone kept telling me how close you 2 were, but that never panned out either. Thank you for your questions, I hope I answered them well enough for you
shelven Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Hi Final 3!! So even though viewers obviously can't vote (PinkBox and I tried to petition for one but these fat hoests said NO), following this season as a viewer was really fun and exciting, so I wanted to ask each of you about things from each of your games that I wasn't able to catch or fully understand from just being a viewer. I know you don't have to worry about my vote, but hopefully this also gives any undecided jury members a bit more info! @Staryu: Spoiler Congrats on making the Final 3, legend!! I remember us having a Discord conversation right around when this season started where you said you weren’t sure if you had it in you to play this game hard enough to make it to the finals, so I’m super proud of you for making it! I want you to expand on something you touched on in your earlier answers to Lucky#17: your decision not to go after Buddy. It doesn’t seem like it was a secret that Buddy was emerging as a pretty serious social and strategic threat as the game progressed. You say that you resisted going after him because you “liked the alliance” and “didn’t want to mess up a good thing”, and while this got you to the Final 3, you now sit there with a strong social and strategic player with some impressive stats. So my question is: why do you believe that your decision not to go after Buddy was part of a strong winning strategy, as opposed to simply a strong “make it to the finals” strategy? @Bey_Rihstan: Spoiler Hi queen!!! Congrats on Final 3!! As the finalist I knew the least when this season started, it was really cool to get to know you better by watching your game, and making the Final 3 despite not having the strongest pre-existing ties to the current Games section community is really impressive! The risk of working closely with other strong players for so long is that oftentimes some people in that group end up getting most of the credit for the group’s big moves while others are perceived as dark horses who were just along for the ride. This season, it seems like you’ve taken on that dark horse perception more than Staryu or Buddy. So my question to you is: did you ever consider that working so closely with arguably “flashier” players for such a big part of the game might create a difficult conception about you to disprove? And why do you think sticking with them instead of taking on more of a clear leader role with other players was the correct decision for you to win the game? @Buddy!: Spoiler KIIING!! Congrats on making the Final 3!! You have been such a blast to watch this season and your strong, entertaining personality made your road to the finals very exciting, so it’s really great to see you here. You also actually kept your confessional active unlike 90% of these fatties, so thanks! As you already brought up yourself, you enter this Final 3 with an impressive accomplishment of never having a single vote cast against you all season. But that accomplishment would have been meaningless if you had been voted out before making it to the finals. You managed to win final immunity, but it was a pretty narrow win against Staryu. So my question to you is: if Staryu had won immunity instead of you, what would your plan have been to ensure you weren’t voted out and why are you confident that your plan would have been successful? Or, alternately, did you even have a plan you felt confident in, or were you relying almost exclusively on winning the final challenge to secure your spot in the Final 3? Good luck to all of you!!!
Staryu Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, shelven said: So my question is: why do you believe that your decision not to go after Buddy was part of a strong winning strategy, as opposed to simply a strong “make it to the finals” strategy? What a great question, thanks Shelven! Honestly I thought Buddy and I were pretty even when it came with outside the alliance allies/friends, I mean if I thought he could wipe the floor with me in a final 3 scenario, I definitely would have made more of an attempt to get him out. I really thought we worked well together though and I trusted him because of our Baby Z connection, we were both really good friends with Baby and his blindside really brought us together, so I really felt safe and trusting with Buddy and I think he felt the same way with me because he never tried to take me out either (that I'm aware of ) until this final 4 tie vote, which let's be real, I would have voted for him if I was in the same position. The only person I felt I could NEVER beat in the final 3 was Lucky and that is who I took out of the game with my idol play on Dussy, everyone else left in the game at that point I thought there was a fair shot of me winning with, including Buddy.
Buddy! Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 Quote if Staryu had won immunity instead of you, what would your plan have been to ensure you weren’t voted out and why are you confident that your plan would have been successful? Or, alternately, did you even have a plan you felt confident in, or were you relying almost exclusively on winning the final challenge to secure your spot in the Final 3? Well, the plan was to always to win the final immunity. I did not want to have to rely on anyone else to get there, simply because i've been down that road before and look where it got me sdfgh. I made a final 3 deal with star and kaeli. Obviously star would have voted me out (or so she says ) but i'm not sure how well that would have gone down. Kaeli saw yvess as the biggest threat to win, and when I low key pressed her to vote out star instead she wouldn't budge. Yvess wouldn't have voted me out so it would have been another tie scenario, or a failed attempt at taking me out. But I do feel confident that I would've been able to sneak my way into the final 3 regardless. I do have a way with words and twisting things hihi
Bey_Rihstan Posted August 23, 2020 Posted August 23, 2020 57 minutes ago, kiiwii said: Hey, @Bey_Rihstan! You are the one I communicated with the absolute least and have little to no relationship with. During our time together on a tribe pre merge, your limit in replying to me made me very wary of you. So once we went into the merge, I no longer attempted to message you because of how little you communicated with me. But I do want to know what your reasoning is that you never messaged me during the merge and if you think you could have gone about this better, despite clearly being on different sides. Hey, hun! If i'm being completely transparent with you, I was already aligned with DripDrip and Staryu & I didn't think you liked me. The only time you messaged me (and correct me if i'm wrongly assessing the situation) was when you thought you were going to be eliminated. I did attempt to boost your spirits after you felt that you hadn't done that well that round because I knew firsthand how it felt to not do so hot. After that, I did try to follow up with you on the vote but you kind of gave an aloof "I think I know how i'm gonna vote, good luck" or something along those lines. That's when I realized you had the idol and me/star had to split the votes to get Drip out so I wouldn't go. After that, I never heard from you again. It wasn't that I didn't like you. I didn't talk to EriKills either, and I enjoy the both of you! I just felt that we were already on two different, solidified sides and I didn't wanna muddy the waters by crossing "enemy" lines, especially for someone that I thought didn't like me. I also heard that you guys were planning to take me out around the time Lucky was eliminated so that is another reason I didn't reach out. Trust me, there was no shade! I certainly would have talked game with you if you wanted. There seems to have been a miscommunication (or no communication lolz) on both of our ends, but I promise there was no ill will towards you!
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