Guero Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 @Touch It I approached you in the beginning of the game to work together. Had the alliances not formed the way they did, were you really planning to work with me long term or were you going to get me out eventually? @dussymob I feel like you played the middle for the majority of post-merge, which is a great position to be in since you clearly made the finale. but what do you feel was the greatest move you made this season aside from your social game? @Gateau you were involved in your fair share of drama this season. are there any things you would like to clear up since the dust has settled? do you regret anything that was said/did during these disputes?
Touch It Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 6 minutes ago, Guero said: @Touch It I approached you in the beginning of the game to work together. Had the alliances not formed the way they did, were you really planning to work with me long term or were you going to get me out eventually? I was definitely wanting to work with you from the start. Even during merge, I wanted you to join in on an alliance with me, but things weren't able to work out as easily as it would seem to be. Honestly if we ended up being on the same sides of the game, I would've definitely worked with you long term since you seemed like you would be a loyal alliance member and I also would've loved playing the game with you since you're a really funny person and fun to talk to.
Gateau Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, boys said: Hi finalists! My question is for any who would care to answer. Contrary to popular belief jury management is a very big part of this game some people disagree but thats just my opinion so my question to you all is.. Who do you think had the best & worst jury management? Please explain your answers! See you all at FTC! I think that jury management is extremely important, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say not a single person sitting in the final three had solid jury management, and I'll explain why. Conflict was absolutely unavoidable at certain portions of this game, and I'd like to use the first portion of my answer to explain some of my shortcomings and my standpoint on the various beefs I've had here. Like you with me, boys. In our first round, we had never talked, and it was actually Touch it who first told me about you. He deleted the incriminating messages in which he detailed you ****ting on me, but we have a few x Here's one where I'm thanking him for when he told me all the tea on what you were saying about me, and he was the person to tell me to contact the other members about forming an alliance. I was already in one before anyone knew, but he was definitely egging on the drama. I edited out my name or privacy reasons, I have the original versions of this screenshot so i can edit out touch it's name if he wants, but his has been used pretty extensively here so i don't know if he cares? and also I switched discord to compact mode so the text is easier to read. Secondly, you had been speaking about us in the other channels, calling us losers https://i.gyazo.com/dc6766454fc7f94f67e8a16ccc4d9359.png Then you began to do it publicly, and that's when I finally said something After our first spat, I came you you, and mended things. Following this, I kept true to this and to everyone on our swap tribe, my only comments were "I don't know how boys feels about me, but I don't have any ill will towards him" Then in the very next vote we had together, round one of the merge, you flipped on us. Dussy at the time was my #1 ally and when you threw out his name and he asked me who threw out his name, I did tell him it was you, because you were no longer on our side. After this you went off in the Galatea chat, and only then is when I switched our votes to you, because I knew I was going to become a constant target with you in the game. Following this, I was admittedly childish and posted the stomping gif in this thread after you were voted off, and I apologize for that. However, a few nights ago, you had also resparked things after what... a month of us not being negative towards each other? In the voice chat, you said "Who was in the final three? i don't remember" and then proceeded to say "so dussy, how does it feel to be the only BLACK member of the final three?" and then someone corrected you, and you said "no,. gateau isn't black. he's not part of us." obviously in an attempt to shade me, why would I *not* be allowed to react to this? I was frustrated, alone, as several people were on call speaking misconceptions about me. Now as far as the Alena thing, and the several offshoots following that. I want to be clear that Alena had already promised to vote against me and held me in contempt before we had even met,just because you said I was voting you off. https://i.imgur.com/HQdBCSG.png fast forward a bit, Alena and I have been friendly towards each other and she's one of the people I reach out to about shaking up the game. WARNING: she deleted a LOT of messages so I can't provide as much depth about this as I would have liked. I tell her my honest thoughts, that I can't win by going to the end with the Galatea, and she can't win by going to the end with the Telesto. She Following the result of the vote, I reiterate EXACTLY what she justt agreed to up there, that there's no way we can continue like this or neither of us will win. Except this time, she has a concrete majority and responds completely different. Following this, I literally say that I don't want to fight https://i.imgur.com/DaE3ecn.png Soooo what happens? she posts the screenshots publicly after we've already finished speaking, and everyone immediately jumps on me without contacting me privately, or giving me any chance to explain myself. And for way? ONE line where i say "so the four us us can all sit here and be ugly together"? Where I named no one? And its a quote from the bad girls club? Are we forgetting that we are on ATRL? A site where we literally say "Fatties, skinnies, uglies" etc on the daily basis, in a playful manner? Have any of you even posted a picture of yourselves before? How the hell would I even know what y'all looked like? How does it make any sense to take months-long offense to that? I felt like the timing of all of it was just too convenient, as the majority was finally settled, and that was the same night clueless posted a screenshot from krazii, who is completely harmless. I felt like most of them were just looking for an excuse to fight since they had finally gotten majority, and I didn't understand that. Because I didn't go out of my way to shade anyone when I had majority. I was cordial to everyone before this. Now, part 2 of your question: I don't feel as though touch it or Dussy had good jury management either, when it came to the treatment of the non-telesto. The Galatea frequently spoke about being ignored by Touch It, or led on by Dussy. Neither of which really paid much attention to anyone once majority was established. The only difference is, the Galatea were generally quiet, non-confrontational people and didn't spark fights when we had majority, so we didn't get into the type of arguments as I had gotten into it with a few others after the F9 round. Whew. That was a lot. Edited April 7, 2020 by Gateau
dussymob Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 12 hours ago, Not Like The Movies said: Why should I vote for you to win this competition over your other two competitors? @dussymob I think I deserve your vote because I played the best game out of the three of us. I outplayed Gateau who I feel never had any intentions of bringing me to the final 3. I dominated the social game which kept me alive. I came into this game knowing no one and still managed to make good relations. So I feel me and gateau was given equal opportunities to build relations where one succeeded and the other failed. No offense to Gateaus but social game and jury management is very important.
Gateau Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buddy! said: girl delete its an essay but there's no way I can explain what happened in shorter terms, and without evidence. Otherwise I'll just continue to be called a fight-starting liar lol
dussymob Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Hi finalists! My question is for any who would care to answer. Contrary to popular belief jury management is a very big part of this game some people disagree but thats just my opinion so my question to you all is.. Who do you think had the best & worst jury management? Please explain your answers! Hey what's up Boys. I think I managed the jury the best as I left off on good terms with everyone. Gateau definitely did the worst by insulting at like half the jurors. Prior to his bad gameplay in that section many of these players were willing to work with him. So he ruined that for himself by letting the game get too personal. Nick played an okay game with the jurors but I don't think he worked hard enough to build with the others outside his alliance.
Staryu Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 @dussymob @Gateau @Touch It hi final 3 Can you rank the jurors for me.. from who you think is the most likely to vote for you to who would be the least likely to vote for you? That's all x
Touch It Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gateau said: Touch it who first told me about you. He deleted the incriminating messages in which he detailed you ****ting on me, but we have a few x my big fat mind
Gateau Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 22 minutes ago, Guero said: @Gateau you were involved in your fair share of drama this season. are there any things you would like to clear up since the dust has settled? do you regret anything that was said/did during these disputes? So I explained everything in pretty deep detail in my previous post, but tl;dr: A lot of the drama was just a ton of misunderstanding, and me not standing down when being poked. The drama I regret the most was the Alena thing. If I could go back, I would have never messaged her that night, I would have never tried to game with her, I would have just let things flow the way they had flown.
boys Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, Gateau said: I think that jury management is extremely important, and I'm gonna go out on a limb and say not a single person sitting in the final three had solid jury management, and I'll explain why. Conflict was absolutely unavoidable at certain portions of this game, and I'd like to use the first portion of my answer to explain some of my shortcomings and my standpoint on the various beefs I've had here. Like you with me, boys. In our first round, we had never talked, and it was actually Touch it who first told me about you. He deleted the incriminating messages in which he detailed you ****ting on me, but we have a few x Here's one where I'm thanking him for when he told me all the tea on what you were saying about me, and he was the person to tell me to contact the other members about forming an alliance. I was already in one before anyone knew, but he was definitely egging on the drama. I edited out my name or privacy reasons, I have the original versions of this screenshot so i can edit out touch it's name if he wants, but his has been used pretty extensively here so i don't know if he cares? and also I switched discord to compact mode so the text is easier to read. Secondly, you had been speaking about us in the other channels, calling us losers https://i.gyazo.com/dc6766454fc7f94f67e8a16ccc4d9359.png Then you began to do it publicly, and that's when I finally said something After our first spat, I came you you, and mended things. Following this, I kept true to this and to everyone on our swap tribe, my only comments were "I don't know how boys feels about me, but I don't have any ill will towards him" Then in the very next vote we had together, round one of the merge, you flipped on us. Dussy at the time was my #1 ally and when you threw out his name and he asked me who threw out his name, I did tell him it was you, because you were no longer on our side. After this you went off in the Galatea chat, and only then is when I switched our votes to you, because I knew I was going to become a constant target with you in the game. Following this, I was admittedly childish and posted the stomping gif in this thread after you were voted off, and I apologize for that. However, a few nights ago, you had also resparked things after what... a month of us not being negative towards each other? In the voice chat, you said "Who was in the final three? i don't remember" and then proceeded to say "so dussy, how does it feel to be the only BLACK member of the final three?" and then someone corrected you, and you said "no,. gateau isn't black. he's not part of us." obviously in an attempt to shade me, why would I *not* be allowed to react to this? I was frustrated, alone, as several people were on call speaking misconceptions about me. Now as far as the Alena thing, and the several offshoots following that. I want to be clear that Alena had already promised to vote against me and held me in contempt before we had even met,just because you said I was voting you off. https://i.imgur.com/HQdBCSG.png fast forward a bit, Alena and I have been friendly towards each other and she's one of the people I reach out to about shaking up the game. WARNING: she deleted a LOT of messages so I can't provide as much depth about this as I would have liked. I tell her my honest thoughts, that I can't win by going to the end with the Galatea, and she can't win by going to the end with the Telesto. She Following the result of the vote, I reiterate EXACTLY what she justt agreed to up there, that there's no way we can continue like this or neither of us will win. Except this time, she has a concrete majority and responds completely different. Following this, I literally say that I don't want to fight https://i.imgur.com/DaE3ecn.png Soooo what happens? she posts the screenshots publicly after we've already finished speaking, and everyone immediately jumps on me without contacting me privately, or giving me any chance to explain myself. And for way? ONE line where i say "so the four us us can all sit here and be ugly together"? Where I named no one? And its a quote from the bad girls club? Are we forgetting that we are on ATRL? A site where we literally say "Fatties, skinnies, uglies" etc on the daily basis, in a playful manner? Have any of you even posted a picture of yourselves before? How the hell would I even know what y'all looked like? How does it make any sense to take months-long offense to that? I felt like the timing of all of it was just too convenient, as the majority was finally settled, and that was the same night clueless posted a screenshot from krazii, who is completely harmless. I felt like most of them were just looking for an excuse to fight since they had finally gotten majority, and I didn't understand that. Because I didn't go out of my way to shade anyone when I had majority. I was cordial to everyone before this. Now, part 2 of your question: I don't feel as though touch it or Dussy had good jury management either, when it came to the treatment of the non-telesto. The Galatea frequently spoke about being ignored by Touch It, or led on by Dussy. Neither of which really paid much attention to anyone once majority was established. The only difference is, the Galatea were generally quiet, non-confrontational people and didn't spark fights when we had majority, so we didn't get into the type of arguments as I had gotten into it with a few others after the F9 round. Whew. That was a lot. I just wanted to know who had the best jury management of the 3 of you and who had the worst was that answered anywhere in there? I don't think I saw that
Touch It Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 3 minutes ago, Staryu said: @dussymob @Gateau @Touch It hi final 3 Can you rank the jurors for me.. from who you think is the most likely to vote for you to who would be the least likely to vote for you? That's all x Staryu Alena Miguel Boys Clue Guero Eri Movies Krazii
Touch It Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 the way I helped @Psycho become first boot by telling gateau that him and boys were going after him and told gateau to talk to other people on his tribe to get james out YUP
Gateau Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Staryu said: @dussymob @Gateau @Touch It hi final 3 Can you rank the jurors for me.. from who you think is the most likely to vote for you to who would be the least likely to vote for you? That's all x Hellooo~ 1. Krazii 2. Erikills 3. Guero 4. Not like the movies 5. Staryu 6. Miguel 7. Clueless 8. Alena 9. boys
dussymob Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) @dussymob I feel like you played the middle for the majority of post-merge, which is a great position to be in since you clearly made the finale. but what do you feel was the greatest move you made this season aside from your social game? What's up @Guero, I feel like my greatest move was the Boys blindside which was actually meant to be your blindside but somehow you caught on to it so kudos to you. I felt like someone was playing double agent and when I heard my name was coming up I decided to play the game for myself and not tell anyone in my alliance the plan. I knew Gateau was getting the votes and informed him to save myself and let him use his idol. That opened up the game a bit more for me to play in the middle even though I ultimately decided to stick with Telesto. Edited April 7, 2020 by dussymob
Gateau Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, boys said: I just wanted to know who had the best jury management of the 3 of you and who had the worst was that answered anywhere in there? I don't think I saw that In my post, I said we were all equally bad, as none of use had good relationships with the opposing side, and I explained why some of the fallouts from the jury happened. I don't think any of us were better than the other, as none of us did really well with the people outside our alliance. 1 minute ago, Touch It said: the way I helped @Psycho become first boot by telling gateau that him and boys were going after him and told gateau to talk to other people on his tribe to get james out YUP nnnnn, your messages implied getting boys out, I had the alliance already set up before you said anything and I voted off psycho because I knew he was the most averse to keeping me, and was kind of rude. Your messages just started me thinking about boys' comments towards our tribe afterwards.
boys Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Gateau said: In my post, I said we were all equally bad, as none of use had good relationships with the opposing side, and I explained why some of the fallouts from the jury happened. I don't think any of us were better than the other, as none of us did really well with the people outside our alliance. nnnnn, your messages implied getting boys out, I had the alliance already set up before you said anything and I voted off psycho because I knew he was the most averse to keeping me, and was kind of rude. Your messages just started me thinking about boys' comments towards our tribe afterwards. So you think you all are on the same playing field as far as jury management right now?
Touch It Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, Gateau said: nnnnn, your messages implied getting boys out, I had the alliance already set up before you said anything and I voted off psycho because I knew he was the most averse to keeping me, and was kind of rude. Your messages just started me thinking about boys' comments towards our tribe afterwards. ohh I thought boys was immune that week I just told u the info bc I wanted james out from our let's spoon rivalry :shock:
dussymob Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Can you rank the jurors for me.. from who you think is the most likely to vote for you to who would be the least likely to vote for you? That's all x Staryu Alena Clueless Miguel Boys NLTM Guero Erik Krazii
Gateau Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Just now, boys said: So you think you all are on the same playing field as far as jury management right now? ...yes? The people I fought with were you and Alena, and I explained in great detail why these fights occurred. I was perfectly fine to every other juror. In dussy's case, he led on the Galatea and lied to us round after round, and in Touch It's case the Galatea were ignored. I think we're all on about the same level, but seeing as you were the person I've had a recurring feud with for the last part of the year, I can understand your viewpoint that it may not be the case.
dussymob Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 Oh wow I didn't know I insulted Erik, Guero, Movies, and Krazii. Wow am I delusional??? Yikes.
Touch It Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 I don't think I ignored anybody ever in this game. If somebody talked to me I always responded, unless I'm forgetting something? I agree though that my jury management isn't amazing because I didn't go out of my way to talk to people on the other side, but I had no reason to do so and they didn't really reach out to me either during the merge.
dussymob Posted April 7, 2020 Posted April 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Gateau said: ...yes? The people I fought with were you and Alena, and I explained in great detail why these fights occurred. I was perfectly fine to every other juror. In dussy's case, he led on the Galatea and lied to us round after round, and in Touch It's case the Galatea were ignored. I think we're all on about the same level, but seeing as you were the person I've had a recurring feud with for the last part of the year, I can understand your viewpoint that it may not be the case. People lie all the time in Survivor though??? You lied and said you wasn't gonna vote for me in the final 4. Did you not?
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