tournament ATRL Mafia: Rise of Disney - fin.

[Wondy Lust]

Just now, Disruptive said:

but according to the priority list, strongman is higher than frozen, so if Scar uses that on the detective, the mafia's abilities will not fail?

 

 

Yeah but what I mean is that since Elsa is still a higher priority than the other mafia roles, won't she still Freeze those ones? 

[Nurr]

4 minutes ago, Guero said:

Scar would have to know who Elsa is in order for them to stop her.

1 minute ago, Brutus and Cassius said:

That confuses me, since Elsa has higher priority than all the killing mafia, does that mean even if Scar uses strongman on detective, it'll be wasted since Elsa's ability will still freeze them and Scar will just waste a strongman? He can't use enforcer if he doesn't know who she is

i kinda mixed up the enforcer/strongman ability  but yeah I'm in confusion on who overcomes who

like mokitsu said even if, it would only be useful one night and the detective would just be gone the next night 

[fiercE]

If Scar uses his thing to the Detective and Elsa uses her thing, Elsa's power will work then if Elsa uses her thing and Scar uses his thing to Elsa, then Scar's thing will work.

[miguel]

1 minute ago, fiercE said:

I think its like this..

 

If Scar uses his thing to the Detective and Elsa uses her thing, Elsa's power will work then if Else uses her thing and Scar uses his thing to Elsa, then Scar's thing will work.

 

 

HUH?

 

 

[miguel]

2 minutes ago, fiercE said:

If Scar uses his thing to the Detective and Elsa uses her thing, Elsa's power will work then if Elsa uses her thing and Scar uses his thing to Elsa, then Scar's thing will work.

if he uses enforce, sure. but if he uses strongman, wouldn't that overcome Elsa's freeze?

[Guero]

Strongman only works if Scar uses it on Elsa.

 

If Scar used Strongman on the Detective then all it does is makes the Detective get an "inconclusive" 

[kiiwii]

elsa's power is a one time use tho. scar can easily choose not to use it, making elsa's go to waste. mafia would likely choose someone else to kill and scar would still have his 2 uses of strongman.

[Nurr]

4 minutes ago, fiercE said:

If Scar uses his thing to the Detective and Elsa uses her thing, Elsa's power will work then if Elsa uses her thing and Scar uses his thing to Elsa, then Scar's thing will work.

Idgi skhgdfkf Frozen can only be used once

[miguel]

welp

 

[Wondy Lust]

Just now, Disruptive said:

but if he uses strongman, wouldn't that overcome Elsa's freeze?

It would, but it doesn't disable Elsa's abilties. So the rest of the mafia would still be affected by Elsa's frozen since she has higher priority over every other Mafia that isn't Scar (who can't kill). So Scar will basically just waste a strongman, no?

 

Idk if he can use both Strongman and Enforcer at the same time tho, if he can that sucks.

[Dessy]

Enforcer (and Jailor) can stop Elsa/Frozen if they target her directly. Strongman will allow mafia to get a kill through frozen but no other abilities would work. 

[Wondy Lust]

I say we use a randomizer to pick who to lynch tomorrow unless someone willing to drop some info

 

[miguel]

 

 

 

 

1 minute ago, Dessy said:

Enforcer (and Jailor) can stop Elsa/Frozen if they target her directly. Strongman will allow mafia to get a kill through frozen but no other abilities would work. 

ok, this is what i was saying. basically, we have no way around Scar 

[Nurr]

3 minutes ago, Dessy said:

Enforcer (and Jailor) can stop Elsa/Frozen if they target her directly. Strongman will allow mafia to get a kill through frozen but no other abilities would work. 

does that mean elsa is also useless in our scenario?

 

the amount of USELESS roles wow just wow

 

[bestfiction]

2 hours ago, mokitsu said:

 

 

and bestfiction ion just said above in this page he had a lot of experience about mafia behavior.. surely he’d know that’s a common tactic

 

what if

I thought about this tactic but it's way too obvious and I think I already said that it makes more sense for mafia to silence active players, not someone who barely posted. I just tried to make some conclusions from what happenned during the night stage  and see, we got Icarus talking. He was much less active during day 1 but now the discussion has started

 

 

 

[Dibbles]

let me schedule two hours tomorrow just to get a sense of where we are  

[Wondy Lust]

Just now, Nurr said:

does that mean elsa is also useless in our scenario?

 

the amount of USELESS roles wow just wow

 

Elsa only freezes Mafia, so I think Dessy means none of their abilities would work besides Scar's.

[thecptz]

aadsada i need to catch up

[Guero]

9 minutes ago, Dessy said:

Enforcer (and Jailor) can stop Elsa/Frozen if they target her directly. Strongman will allow mafia to get a kill through frozen but no other abilities would work. 

But Scar would have to target Elsa to stop the Frozen ability, correct?

[Dessy]

5 minutes ago, Nurr said:

does that mean elsa is also useless in our scenario?

 

the amount of USELESS roles wow just wow

 

I am not commenting on specific scenarios. 

 

[mokitsu]

8 minutes ago, Brutus and Cassius said:

I say we use a randomizer to pick who to lynch tomorrow unless someone willing to drop some info

 

love that concept

[mokitsu]

6 minutes ago, bestfiction said:

what if

I thought about this tactic but it's way too obvious and I think I already said that it makes more sense for mafia to silence active players, not someone who barely posted. I just tried to make some conclusions from what happenned during the night stage  and see, we got Icarus talking. He was much less active during day 1 but now the discussion has started

 

 

 

this is too many words for me to process rn i'll check back later

 

[Dessy]

5 minutes ago, Brutus and Cassius said:

Elsa only freezes Mafia, so I think Dessy means none of their abilities would work besides Scar's.

Scar would be blocked too if he failed to target elsa. 

 

2 minutes ago, Guero said:

But Scar would have to target Elsa to stop the Frozen ability, correct?

Yes. That is what I just said.

[Cherry123]

Girls, do we really care if Elsa dies ? The point from town and mafia isn't to survive. It's to finish the whole other group. We just need to come up with an startegic way to use all of our actions to take down the mafia. At night, someone from town or 3P will die so the sooner the better. I say we take our time (until the night is over and someone else dies) to read the rules and see the most eficient way to use our abilities. Some of us will have to sacrifice for the greater good. Period. Like High School Musical said, we are all in this together, don't let those fraudulent bitches breath.

[Cherry123]

I mean I'm sure miss Dessy made the rules to somehow make an order to use them and win. It's like chess luv