artist stats Ariana Grande | The Receipts: Eternal Sunshine goes Platinum in the US

[GuusLima]

** NOTE:

No SPS update made by me is wrong or inflated. I posted countries using SPS, I posted pure sales as well. The formula is below. Just enter the kworb and convert the streamings into sales that will give the same value.

 

Australia: 175:1
Austria: 100:1
Belgium: 150:1
Brazil: 150:1
Canada: 150:1
Denmark: 100:1
France: 150:1
Finland: 100:1
Germany: 100:1
Ireland: 100:1
Italy: 100:1
Malaysia: 150:1
Netherlands: 150:1
New Zealand: 175:1
Norway: 400:1
Poland: 250:1 (YouTube)
Portugal: 250:1
Spain: 250:1
Sweden: 100:1
UK: 150:1
US: 150:1
Songs that came out of Spotify's top 200 I do rule three. "(Total streamings * country streams [kworb]) / by the total streamings that the song has in kworb".

 

 Kworb

Source

 

 

[gracieteefey]

2 hours ago, Thuggin said:

Well that's why it's called an estimate. Like any other fanbase, that's all we can do. I really don't understand what you're saying. You have a problem with the pure sales estimates but also with the US pure sales plus non-US SPS? Like what do you expect us to do? Other bases calculate WW sales too, but as you said you only directed this toward our base and the Selena base.

so what's the truth? GuusLima or mullingar? they both gave us different sales, which of the sales they gave us are right? 

[Thuggin]

1 minute ago, gracieteefey said:

so what's the truth? GuusLima or mullingar? they both gave us different sales, which of the sales they gave us are right? 

GuusLima knows what he's talking about. He has the numbers to prove his case, and unless someone proves otherwise, I'm trusting him.

[grandewhispers]

4 hours ago, mullingar said:

 

Worldwide Pure* Sales:

 

Dangerous Woman (Song):

 

US: 1,040,000

UK: 480,000

Canada: 185,000

Germany: 150,000

Australia: 125,000

Brazil: 120,000

Sweden: 90,000

South Korea: 80,000

France: 75,000

Italy: 60,000

Netherlands: 55,000

Poland: 40.000

NZ: 35,000
Denmark: 30,000
Japan: 25,000

Mexico: 20,000

Belgium: 15,000

Spain: 10,000

Ireland: 10,000

Portugal: 5,000

Finland: 5,000


Total: +2,680,000

 

Into You:

US: 672,000

UK: 650,000

Canada: 210,000
Australia: 170,000

Germany: 170,000

Into You: 120,000

Sweden: 115,000

France: 90,000

Netherlands: 70,000

Japan: 70,000

Italy: 65,000

NZ: 40,000
Poland: 45,000

Denmark: 30,000

South Korea: 25,000
Spain: 25,000

Ireland: 25,000

Mexico: 15,000

Austria: 15,000
Belgium: 15,000

Finland: 5,000
Portugal: 5,000
 

Total: +2,647,000

 

 

Side To Side:

 

US: 1,020,000

UK: 715,000
Australia: 220,000

Canada: 220,000

Germany: 215,000

Brazil: 175,000

South Korea: 155,000

France: 100,000

Netherlands: 90,000

Italy: 65,000
New Zeland: 55,000

Spain: 50,000

Ireland: 40,000
Poland: 35,000

Denmark: 30,000

Mexico: 25,000

Belgium: 15,000
Finland: 10,000
Japan: 10,000

 

Total: +3,245,000

 

 

Everyday:

US: 120,000

UK: 50,000

Australia: 20,000
Brazil: 17,000
Poland: 10,000

Total: +217,000

 

 

 

Some people are using this new formula "without US streams", but that doesn't make sense. Some countries do not count streams on their certifications, If a country work only with pure sales, it's not necessary to use streams on it.

 

This formula is like the old way from ATRL/ClassicATRL to add up the Worldwide Sales:

 

Blue = Countries that reveal pure sales or work only with pure sales.

Red = Countries that work with SPS and don't reveal pure sales.

 

 

PS: Some SPS of that post "without US streams" are extremely inflated. I did it on Selena's OP too because these are the only ones with this formula "without US streams".

There is NO WAY that Dangerous Woman or Into You sold 5k in Portugal.

People do not buy songs here. They probably sold only 100 copies or less.

To reach the #1 here you only need to sell 40 copies 

[gracieteefey]

6 minutes ago, Thuggin said:

GuusLima knows what he's talking about. He has the numbers to prove his case, and unless someone proves otherwise, I'm trusting him.

Oh cool. I was confused because on Twitter some Ariana Chart Accounts were already saying the numbers GuusLima gave us were fake and started to replace them with mullingar's. Mess. Thank you btw 

[Thuggin]

8 minutes ago, grandewhispers said:

There is NO WAY that Dangerous Woman or Into You sold 5k in Portugal.

People do not buy songs here. They probably sold only 100 copies or less.

To reach the #1 here you only need to sell 40 copies 

The countries in red are SPS.

[Communion]

Splitting Pure Sales / SPS feels so... reductive in 2017, especially for a Stream Queen like Ariana.

 

Just make everything SPS so people can see how much she slays.

If only Apple Music released their #s and we could see #s for services like Saavn, Mel0n, etc.

 

After all, Dangerous Woman DOES have 7 Billion WW streams.

[grandewhispers]

Just now, Thuggin said:

The countries in red are SPS.

But he posted Portugal in Blue

[Thuggin]

1 minute ago, Communion said:

Splitting Pure Sales / SPS feels so... reductive in 2017, especially for a Stream Queen like Ariana.

 

Just make everything SPS so people can see how much she slays.

If only Apple Music released their #s and we could see #s for services like Saavn, Mel0n, etc.

 

After all, Dangerous Woman DOES have 7 Billion WW streams.

Oop. My bad. I don't know then lol. As I said, then GuusLima is who I'm trusting for now.

[grandewhispers]

I agree people should count streams in 2017, but it's still nice to get an estimate of how much songs sold in pure sales. 

I hate it when people say ''Into You - Pure Sales'' (for example) and then count every country's sales with SPS and only US with pure sales.

[Jonathan]

Splitting pure from pure+equivalents benefit both sides at the end of the day, putting US pure with other WW SPS units doesn't make sense and causes inflation for the sake of bulking receipts. It's inaccurate.

[Jonathan]

HDD

 

SALES PLUS STREAMING

44 (44) ARIANA GRANDE DANGEROUS WOMAN REPUBLIC -4% 10,800 (1,230,000 total)

 

BUILDING ALBUM SALES

N/A (N/A) ARIANA GRANDE DANGEROUS WOMAN REPUBLIC ~1,000 (365,000 total)

[mullingar]

1 hour ago, grandewhispers said:

There is NO WAY that Dangerous Woman or Into You sold 5k in Portugal.

People do not buy songs here. They probably sold only 100 copies or less.

To reach the #1 here you only need to sell 40 copies 

Portugal is RED, I'm sorry for my mistake! 

[mullingar]

2 hours ago, GuusLima said:

** NOTE:

No SPS update made by me is wrong or inflated. I posted countries using SPS, I posted pure sales as well. The formula is below. Just enter the kworb and convert the streamings into sales that will give the same value.

 

Australia: 175:1
Austria: 100:1
Belgium: 150:1
Brazil: 150:1
Canada: 150:1
Denmark: 100:1
France: 150:1
Finland: 100:1
Germany: 100:1
Ireland: 100:1
Italy: 100:1
Malaysia: 150:1
Netherlands: 150:1
New Zealand: 175:1
Norway: 400:1
Poland: 250:1 (YouTube)
Portugal: 250:1
Spain: 250:1
Sweden: 100:1
UK: 150:1
US: 150:1
Songs that came out of Spotify's top 200 I do rule three. "(Total streamings * country streams [kworb]) / by the total streamings that the song has in kworb".

 

 Kworb

Source

 

 

According to your exemple

 

Into You streams from Norway:

6,700,000~ by 450 = 15,000~

 

In case, this is less and your SPS are HUGES.

[Harranger]

Quote

Greedy – 40,000
Love Me Harder – 35,000
Break Free – 30,000
Be Alright – 30,000
Into You – 25,000
Over And Over Again – 25,000
Daydreamin' – 20,000
Let Me Love You – 15,000
True Love – 15,000
Love Is Everything – 15,000
My Everything – 10,000
One Last Time – 10,000
Jason's Song – 10,000
Faith – 10,000
Moonlight – 8,000
You'll Never Know – 7,000
Right There – 5,000
Get On Your Knees – 5,000
Wit It This Christmas – 5,000
Snow In California – 5,000
Sometimes – 5,000
Too Close – 4,000

Oh wow oh wow

[mullingar]

Guys, I don't wanna to fight, I just wanna do something right. Nobody has believed in the sales of Ariana or Selena, everyone makes jokes. If you want a post with SPS from all countries, including the US, I can do this but it's not corret this way (Without US Streams, with incorret numbers) to updade their sales.

 

I love them like Miley, Demi or Zara and I just wanna do something right (as I said) but not inflating her numbers. 

Edited April 15, 2017 by mullingar

[niazkilam]

40 minutes ago, mullingar said:

Guys, I don't wanna to fight, I just wanna do something right. Nobody has believed in the sales of Ariana or Selena, everyone makes jokes. If you want a post with SPS from all countries, including the US, I can do this but it's not corret this way (Without US Streams, with incorret numbers) to updade their sales.

 

I love them like Miley, Demi or Zara and I just wanna do something right (as I said) but not inflating her numbers. 

You did the best thing ever, the sales are more conducive now. 

[GuusLima]

5 hours ago, Jonathan said:

Splitting pure from pure+equivalents benefit both sides at the end of the day, putting US pure with other WW SPS units doesn't make sense and causes inflation for the sake of bulking receipts. It's inaccurate.

That's why I separate pure / SPS sales.

[GuusLima]

5 hours ago, mullingar said:

According to your exemple

 

Into You streams from Norway:

6,700,000~ by 450 = 15,000~

 

In case, this is less and your SPS are HUGES.

I have never used sps from Norway on Ariana or Selena topics. Only 4 countries reveal their pure sales: US, JP, SK & MEXICO. The rest uses streamings on their certificates.

 

http://cimamusic.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/WINCHARTS-WIN-Global-Chart-Report

[Jiansheng Wen]

all songs US iTunes peak?Does someone post it?

Edited April 15, 2017 by Jiansheng Wen

[DangerousNicky]

14 hours ago, mullingar said:

 

Worldwide Pure* Sales:

 

Dangerous Woman (Song):

 

US: 1,040,000

UK: 480,000

Canada: 185,000

Germany: 150,000

Australia: 125,000

Brazil: 120,000

Sweden: 90,000

South Korea: 80,000

France: 75,000

Italy: 60,000

Netherlands: 55,000

Poland: 40.000

NZ: 35,000
Denmark: 30,000
Japan: 25,000

Mexico: 20,000

Belgium: 15,000

Spain: 10,000

Ireland: 10,000

Portugal: 5,000

Finland: 5,000


Total: +2,680,000

 

Into You:

US: 672,000

UK: 650,000

Canada: 210,000
Australia: 170,000

Germany: 170,000

Into You: 120,000

Sweden: 115,000

France: 90,000

Netherlands: 70,000

Japan: 70,000

Italy: 65,000

NZ: 40,000
Poland: 45,000

Denmark: 30,000

South Korea: 25,000
Spain: 25,000

Ireland: 25,000

Mexico: 15,000

Austria: 15,000
Belgium: 15,000

Finland: 5,000
Portugal: 5,000
 

Total: +2,647,000

 

 

Side To Side:

 

US: 1,020,000

UK: 715,000
Australia: 220,000

Canada: 220,000

Germany: 215,000

Brazil: 175,000

South Korea: 155,000

France: 100,000

Netherlands: 90,000

Italy: 65,000
New Zeland: 55,000

Spain: 50,000

Ireland: 40,000
Poland: 35,000

Denmark: 30,000

Mexico: 25,000

Belgium: 15,000
Finland: 10,000
Japan: 10,000

 

Total: +3,245,000

 

 

Everyday:

US: 120,000

UK: 50,000

Australia: 20,000
Brazil: 17,000
Poland: 10,000

Total: +217,000

 

 

 

Some people are using this new formula "without US streams", but that doesn't make sense. Some countries do not count streams on their certifications, If a country work only with pure sales, it's not necessary to use streams on it.

 

This formula is like the old way from ATRL/ClassicATRL to add up the Worldwide Sales:

 

Blue = Countries that reveal pure sales or work only with pure sales.

Red = Countries that work with SPS and don't reveal pure sales.

 

 

PS: Some SPS of that post "without US streams" are extremely inflated. I did it on Selena's OP too because these are the only ones with this formula "without US streams".

Thanks a lot babe! What about Focus? 

[grandewhispers]

What mullingar is doing does not make sense. Putting US and other countries pure with some countries SPS is inaccurate and will just give you a random number.

[DangerousNicky]

1 hour ago, grandewhispers said:

What mullingar is doing does not make sense. Putting US and other countries pure with some countries SPS is inaccurate and will just give you a random number.

Um, so adding Pure Sales from countries that work with them and SPS Sales from countries that don't work with Pure Sales doesn't make sense but adding all the SPS Sales around the world except the US does? LOL okay. What mullingar is doing makes much more sense. He's approaching Pure Sales more this way than with Guus's random method.

Edited April 15, 2017 by DangerousNicky

[grandewhispers]

6 minutes ago, DangerousNicky said:

Um, so adding Pure Sales from countries that work with them and SPS Sales from countries that don't work with Pure Sales doesn't make sense but adding all the SPS Sales around the world except the US does? LOL okay. What mullingar is doing makes much more sense. He's approaching Pure Sales more this way than with Guus's random method.

The difference is that Guus tells us actual pure sales and mullingar doesn't.

[GuusLima]

I've always separated pure sales from sales with streamings. I've never used streaming sales to inflate pure sales.