Rawr Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 12 minutes ago, Jennifer said: CSTF is irrelevant to the demographic that matters (12-49). It has to be kids and old people fueling it. i highly doubt that 0-11 year olds and 50+ year olds are the ones who all have apple accounts and downloaded it 3 million times
Cryptique Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 On 3/2/2017 at 8:15 PM, ParallelLines said: I thought Billboard balanced out the Hot 100 formula so that sales would matter more irrespective of the fact that they're currently on its death bed? Why are they ranked so low? I presumed they didn't want streaming to dominate too much. I thought sales would at least have a quota above 30% or so, unless I've misunderstood you. in my own opinion, there's no really definite percentage cause it varies song to song.. that 22 percent sales and 49 prcent streams came from the overall concumption for that particular week tho.. but individually it differs.. like for Million Reasons assuming points of sales, radio & stream at 80,30,30 then that is 57% sales 21.5% radio and 21.5% streams (sales driven). for LOTB for ex. points are 40,150,60 then it's 16% sales 60% radio and 24% streams (radio driven).. basically differs every song.. not sure if this is really it... about the hot100 formula.. they really changed it to give more points to sales like from 1 sale = 1 point, it is at 3 sales = 4 points accdg to @simmnfierzig
simmnfierzig Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Cryptique said: in my own opinion, there's no really definite percentage cause it varies song to song.. that 22 percent sales and 49 prcent streams came from the overall concumption for that particular week tho.. but individually it differs.. like for Million Reasons assuming points of sales, radio & stream at 80,30,30 then that is 57% sales 21.5% radio and 21.5% streams (sales driven). for LOTB for ex. points are 40,150,60 then it's 16% sales 60% radio and 24% streams (radio driven).. basically differs every song.. not sure if this is really it... about the hot100 formula.. they really changed it to give more points to sales like from 1 sale = 1 point, it is at 3 sales = 4 points accdg to @simmnfierzig Yes to all.
Just a Gay on ATRL Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 1 hour ago, GenieBaby said: Justin's most iconic songs imo Cry Me A River > Sexy Back > Rock Your Body > What Goes Around > CSTF > My Love > Mirrors CSTF is just popular with kids. Nobody cares for this song. SexyBack > Cry Me a River > What Goes Around...Comes Around > Rock Your Body > CSTF! > Mirrors > My Love
Cryptique Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) 3 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Yes to all. good, wow i love CHARTS.. perched for the final update tho... and early update too cause rockabye is shooting to top10 sells.. chanceS for it hitting TOP10 ON HOT 100?? Edited March 3, 2017 by Cryptique
simmnfierzig Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Cryptique said: good, wow i love CHARTS.. perched for the final update tho... and early update too cause rockabye is shooting to top10 sells.. chance for it hitting TOP10 ON HOT 100?? Doubt it
simmnfierzig Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 I'm not sure how to update without having the Spotify weekly chart
legendaya_SSLP Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Isn't this the weekly chart? http://kworb.net/spotify/country/us_weekly.html
Green Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Could "Shape of you" get the #1 on Streaming Songs this week? Or maybe next week after the album release?
Tsuko Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 2 hours ago, ChartsFan said: Yes those pesky "old folks"... anyway the song spent ten weeks st number one on digital sales. That wasn't driven by "old folks". Yes, the song has been big in the adult community where it has spent 18 weeks st number one on the hot ac chart. so thst shows its base is broad. Hot ac and sales, two different demographics. ehst this says to me is we have a song that is a signature song to the general public, but is not his signature sing amongst fans and the average music follower. Can't Stop The Feeling is popular with young people, yes, but not on the same level as SexyBack, etc. were imo. I do think its popularity is fueled by people older than me. Also, the average age of people who downloaded on iTunes even at the peak of the digital age was in the early 30s (and also mostly females), according to the statistics we had. Now I'd expect it to be a bit older if anything. And someone who's, say, 35 years-old now would have been about 22 in 2003, they will be fully aware of downloading, if anything I think they might be the people who are still downloading now mostly, probably because they've been used to it for so long (even before iTunes, some people have been downloading their music since the late 90's), whilst the people who are currently 17 years-old will most likely have gone straight to streaming. And again, Justin Timberlake IS popular with young people, but you have to remember who he is. Someone who's 13 years-old now might not have even been alive when Cry Me A River came out (a VERY scary thought!), and the girls who were teenagers when N Sync were big will be in their 30's now. Again, he clearly is popular with teenagers, but not THAT much, I do think a large proportion of the success of CSTF is from the HAC/AC demographic.
Agenor Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 18 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: I'm not sure how to update without having the Spotify weekly chart Kworb didn't update the daily numbers for the last two days, but the weekly update is available. http://kworb.net/spotify/country/us_weekly.html
Curly Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 SexyBack is definitely his most iconic and biggest single
simmnfierzig Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 7 minutes ago, Agenor said: Kworb didn't update the daily numbers for the last two days, but the weekly update is available. http://kworb.net/spotify/country/us_weekly.html He didn't update last 2 daily numbers because the official Spotify website didn't update last 2 daily numbers. But yeah they have the weekly numbers Didn't even check, cause that makes absolutely no sense, but alright
Agenor Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 1 minute ago, simmnfierzig said: He didn't update last 2 daily numbers because the official Spotify website didn't update last 2 daily numbers. But yeah they have the weekly numbers Didn't even check, cause that makes absolutely no sense, but alright Maybe they'll stop posting daily numbers... just weekly from now on.
Hidden Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 On 28/02/2017 at 7:51 PM, simmnfierzig said: Full early predictions 1 Shape Of You 597 (=) 2 Bad And Boujee It's beyond me how this thing is so appreciated
simmnfierzig Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 Just now, Agenor said: Maybe they'll stop posting daily numbers... just weekly from now on. They did post daily numbers on the client software, just not on the website. But whatever
alexanderao Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 8 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: They did post daily numbers on the client software, just not on the website. But whatever Logic
Superbitch Posted March 3, 2017 Posted March 3, 2017 20 minutes ago, Hidden said: It's beyond me how this thing is so appreciated Lol same it's a bop but I'm liek it just seems so weird to me it was a #1 hit. Their previous single say sum was a total flop and I loved it but I didn't talk about bad bitches.
TattooedDreams Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 2 hours ago, Tsuko said: Can't Stop The Feeling is popular with young people, yes, but not on the same level as SexyBack, etc. were imo. I do think its popularity is fueled by people older than me. Also, the average age of people who downloaded on iTunes even at the peak of the digital age was in the early 30s (and also mostly females), according to the statistics we had. Now I'd expect it to be a bit older if anything. And someone who's, say, 35 years-old now would have been about 22 in 2003, they will be fully aware of downloading, if anything I think they might be the people who are still downloading now mostly, probably because they've been used to it for so long (even before iTunes, some people have been downloading their music since the late 90's), whilst the people who are currently 17 years-old will most likely have gone straight to streaming. And again, Justin Timberlake IS popular with young people, but you have to remember who he is. Someone who's 13 years-old now might not have even been alive when Cry Me A River came out (a VERY scary thought!), and the girls who were teenagers when N Sync were big will be in their 30's now. Again, he clearly is popular with teenagers, but not THAT much, I do think a large proportion of the success of CSTF is from the HAC/AC demographic. This is true but he still has an appeal for many people. Big social media following and all.
TattooedDreams Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 (edited) 10 hours ago, Enoch said: What gods around > His best #1 10 hours ago, Riha'love said: Cry Me a River says hi A cute 3rd but better than SexyBack and CSTF 10 hours ago, Cz! said: "Rock Your Body" says hi. It's 6th after those listed Mirrors and My Love or tied with that Edited March 4, 2017 by TattooedDreams
simmnfierzig Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Updated predictions 1 Shape Of You 609 (=) 2 Bad And Boujee 376 (=) 3 I Don't Wanna Live Forever 302 (=) 4 That's What I Like 275 (=) 5 Something Just Like This 241 (+51) 6 Love On The Brain 240 (+1) 7 Paris 240 (-1) 8 Closer 225 (-3) 9 I Feel It Coming 217 (+2) 10 Bounce Back 211 (-1) 11 Chained To The Rhythm 210 (-3) 12 Can't Stop The Feeling 192 (+17) 13 iSpy 190 (+7) 14 Bad Things 188 (-4) 15 24k Magic 185 (=) 16 Tunnel Vision 182 (+11) 17 Down 182 (+8) 18 Fake Love 180 (-5) 19 Mercy 180 (-1) 20 Body Like A Back Road 179 (+2) 21 Scars To Your Beautiful 178 (-7) 22 Rockabye 173 (-1) 23 Starboy 172 (-6) 24 Say You Won't Let Go 158 (+4) 25 Issues 155 (+8) 26 It Ain't Me 154 (-14) 27 Don't Wanna Know 154 (-8) 28 Black Beatles 148 (-12) 29 All Time Low 138 (-3) 30 Cold 138 (-7) 31 Million Reasons 137 (-1) 32 Slide 135 (debut) 33 Stay 134 (debut) 34 Let Me Love You 131 (-3) 35 Congratulations 131 (+1) 36 Side To Side 123 (-2) 37 Water Under The Bridge 120 (=) 38 Swang 120 (-3) 39 T-Shirt 118 (-7) 40 Caroline 116 (-16) 41 Dirt On My Boots 116 (+1) 42 Better Man 115 (-3) 43 Heathens 115 (-5) 44 Selfish 114 (debut) 45 Treat You Better 112 (-5) 46 Party 106 (-1) 47 I Got You 106 (-4) 48 Location 104 (+3) 49 This Town 99 (-1) 50 Both 95 (=) 51 Despacito 90 (+8) 52 Everyday 89 (+26) 53 Deja Vu 88 (+2) 54 How Far I'll Go Auli'l 85 (re-entry) 55 Think A Little Less 85 (+3) 56 Believer 85 (+9) 57 Look At Me! 84 (+13) 58 Sober Saturday Night 83 (+3) 59 Mask Off 82 (-10) 60 Goosebumps 82 (+2) 61 Play That Song 82 (-1) 62 Make Me (Cry) 82 (-9) 63 Shining 75 (-6) 64 Party Monster 75 (=) 65 Today 73 (+6) 66 Moves 72 (-3) 67 Comin Out Strong 71 (debut) 68 Fast 71 (+8) 69 Rolex 69 (-1) 70 Castle On The Hill 67 (-4) 71 Love 67 (-27) 72 Call On Me 66 (=) 73 Used To This 66 (-6) 74 Kill A Word 63 (=) 75 Any Ol Barstool 63 (-2) 76 Heavy 62 (-24) 77 The Weekend 62 (+4) 78 Selfish 62 (+12) 79 How Far I'll Go Alessia 61 (+15) 80 Star Of The Show 61 (-5) 81 Love Me Now 59 (-12) 82 Road Less Traveled 59 (+5) 83 No Heart 58 (+2) 84 Chantaje 57 (-4) 85 A Guy With A Girl 57 (-6) 86 In Case You Didn't Know 56 (+6) 87 Redbone 55 (re-entry) 88 Hurricane 54 (-6) 89 The Fighter 53 (-3) 90 Hometown Girl 52 (debut) 91 Losin Control 52 (debut) 92 Make Love 52 (debut) 93 Seein Red 51 (-9) 94 Draco 50 (-48) 95 Yeah Boy 50 (+5) 96 Guys My Age 50 (-13) 97 Heroe Favorito 49 (re-entry) 98 Not Nice 49 (-10) 99 Thumbs 48 (debut) 100 Slippery 48 (-11)
simmnfierzig Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Damn it's 4 am and I'm so tired Possible that I've missed some obvious stuff and put a wrong number somewhere. Hope not.
DELE2125 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Damn it's 4 am and I'm so tired Possible that I've missed some obvious stuff and put a wrong number somewhere. Hope not. Lorde's "Green Light" won't debut with 4 days of airplay, 1 day of sales and 1 day of streams?
fridayteenage Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 40 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Updated predictions 11 Chained To The Rhythm 210 (-3) Great prediction!
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