SeanET Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 16 hours ago, ThirdWardBey said: Beyoncé’s total UK certs without any collaborations: 17,920,000 Lady Gaga’s total UK certs without any collaborations: 16,760,000 Looks like the loser loses again. The difference is Beyoncé can still scan certifications across the board with or without a feature whilst it looks like Gaga falls behind in that department as noted by ROM having more certified units than Chromatica and all of it’s other tracks combined. Because it is an Ariana-assisted collab. Chromatica without ROM: Chromatica: Gold (100k) Stupid Love: Gold (400k) Total: 500k Positions: Positions (song): Platinum (600k) Positions (album): Gold (100k) 34+35: Platinum (600k) POV: Silver (200k) Motive: Silver (200k) Total: 1.7M We can clearly see who needed it more.
Jessie Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 15 hours ago, swissman said: What? The Fame (Gaga's first album) came out less than 2 years after B'Day (Beyoncé's second). And as mentioned, Beyoncé has far more singles that are collaborations than Gaga's so this 30 vs. 50 thing evens out a bit more in the stats that was being compared specifically. Of course albums can gain sales over time, but I mean after 15+ years are they gaining THAT much? It's small additions that add up, okay, but I don't think a five year difference is such a huge advantage. If we want to talk about advantages, let's also mention how Lemonade was off streaming for 3 years, in which time I doubt people were buying up the singles as much as they would have been streaming them, contributing to their certifications. The Fame wasn’t released in the U.K. until April 2009. This topic is really ultimately very pointless, Beyoncé and Lady Gaga are two of the most famous women in the U.K., who wins in units divided by time or whatever is splitting hairs.
swissman Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 14 hours ago, Blade said: All y’all are doing is comparing every era to Chromatica without ROM. Same thing y’all did with ASIB without Shallow bc Bradley somehow assisted in selling the music. Gaga is always judged by made up standards but I guess that’s what you get when you’re making hits like Shallow and ROM 10+ years into your career. Others can’t relate without a remix. Well still that's not a five year difference, and I'm sure the singles were out in the UK prior to 2009, right? Anyway I agree this back-and-forth is weird. I originally even deleted my original comment here but since it was quoted I replied...maybe I shouldn't have.
Norte Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 Some Beyonce stans are really weird anyway Telephone being 2xP and crossing 20 M without ASIB
Hot Volcano Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 18 hours ago, ThirdWardBey said: Chromatica without ROM: Chromatica: Gold (100k) Stupid Love: Gold (400k) Total: 500k If Gaga managed to pull 500k for Stupid Love, a solo single, in the UK, what makes you think had ROM been solo she would'be been able to pull similiar figures at least? Like, ok, Ariana helped the song being a hit, but you cannot completely erase the song's units Such a dumb logic. 2 hours ago, SeanET said: Born This Way is weeks from hitting 2x Platinum (+600k), followed by ARUTW also 2x (+600k) and Bad Romance hitting 3x (+600k). That's an extra +1.8m to add to Gaga's total, and all with solo songs, so Gaga's will surpass Beyonce's solo units in a matter of months
ThirdWardBey Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: If Gaga managed to pull 500k for Stupid Love, a solo single, in the UK, what makes you think had ROM been solo she would'be been able to pull similiar figures at least? Like, ok, Ariana helped the song being a hit, but you cannot completely erase the song's units Such a dumb logic. Born This Way is weeks from hitting 2x Platinum (+600k), followed by ARUTW also 2x (+600k) and Bad Romance hitting 3x (+600k). That's an extra +1.8m to add to Gaga's total, and all with solo songs, so Gaga's will surpass Beyonce's solo units in a matter of months Using your logic, 911, Sour Candy, or any other Chromatica track should have been able to accumulate a certification and have failed to do so at this point. Also, do you happen to have a live unit tracker for Born This Way, Always Remember Us This Way, and Bad Romance's UK units to back up those claims? Because otherwise you're making the assumption that Beyoncé will have no new UK certifications within the same time period when she just added two yesterday. Gaga will never surpass Beyoncé's certified UK units and that is okay. Argue with someone outside of the top ten, where Gaga remains. 4 = Beyoncé 5,020,000 19,400,000 24,420,000 11 -1 Lady Gaga 4,360,000 14,600,000 18,960,000
Hot Volcano Posted March 12, 2022 Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) 24 minutes ago, ThirdWardBey said: Using your logic, 911, Sour Candy, or any other Chromatica track should have been able to accumulate a certification and have failed to do so at this point. Also, do you happen to have a live unit tracker for Born This Way, Always Remember Us This Way, and Bad Romance's UK units to back up those claims? Because otherwise you're making the assumption that Beyoncé will have no new UK certifications within the same time period when she just added two yesterday. Gaga will never surpass Beyoncé's certified UK units and that is okay. Argue with someone outside of the top ten, where Gaga remains. 4 = Beyoncé 5,020,000 19,400,000 24,420,000 11 -1 Lady Gaga 4,360,000 14,600,000 18,960,000 911 and Sour Candy werent official singles, but you already knew that BTW's latest official figure was 1,080,000 back in June 21' when it got a big boost thanks to the Pride month, so its for sure going 2x Platinum soon. The others are estimates since we dont have official numbers but considering BR and ARUTW are both doing great on streaming on a daily basis, its bound to happen. Not you pulling out the solo units just to go back to overall units now when I told you gaga will get massive certifications soon And Gaga IS in the top 10 with the latest PF certification, the OP hasnt been updated yet. The way all of your claims lost credibility Edited March 12, 2022 by Hot Volcano
Lovett Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 48 minutes ago, Renan90 said: https://www.bpi.co.uk/award/2392-5889-1 Another 200k for Beyoncé.
istan4badgalriri Posted March 18, 2022 Author Posted March 18, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Time to update the thread @istan4badgalriri Yes I am updating it in a few hours ! Finally found some free time to do it ??
ThirdWardBey Posted March 18, 2022 Posted March 18, 2022 (edited) Another 200k for the fourth best-selling female in the UK Also the fourth song from Lemonlegend to be certified in the UK, which is very difficult to achieve. Edited March 18, 2022 by ThirdWardBey
istan4badgalriri Posted March 18, 2022 Author Posted March 18, 2022 OP updated. Many moves (cause it's a 3 weeks update)
Aramis Posted March 19, 2022 Posted March 19, 2022 The way a local act like Beyoncé is outselling GLOBAL legends in UK makes me laugh tbh
Selenasworld Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 (edited) I think Selena Gomez finally be listed here she already topped 8 million Edited April 5, 2022 by Selenasworld
Hot Volcano Posted April 5, 2022 Posted April 5, 2022 So with ASIB Gaga is above Taylor Coming to surpass P!nk next!
LesFleur Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 @istan4badgalriri Diana Ross: 6,880,000 (excluding all titles credited to The Supremes and Diana Ross & The Supremes) Spoiler (figures may be higher/lower as the certification levels were changed to the current ones in 1979) ALBUMS: 1,140,000 Surrender (titled I'm Still Waiting in the UK): 60,000 Touch Me in the Morning: 100,000 Diana & Marvin: 100,000 Diana Ross: 100,000 Baby It's Me: 60,000 Diana: 100,000 Why Do Fools Fall in Love: 100,000 Silk Electric: 60,000 Workin' Overtime: 60,000 The Force Behind the Power: 300,000 A Very Special Season: 100,000 SOUNDTRACK ALBUMS: 100,000 Lady Sings the Blues: 100,000 LIVE ALBUMS: 160,000 An Evening with Diana Ross: 60,000 Greatest Hits Live: 100,000 COMPILATION ALBUMS: 3,280,000 Greatest Hits: 100,000 Diana Ross' Greatest Hits: 100,000 20 Golden Greats: 300,000 All the Great Hits: 300,000 Diana's Duets: 60,000 Love Songs: 300,000 Portrait: 100,000 Love Songs (with Michael Jackson): 300,000 Motown's Greatest Hits: 60,000 One Woman: The Ultimate Collection: 1,200,000 Voice of Love: 100,000 Love & Life: The Very Best of Diana Ross: 300,000 The Greatest: 60,000 SINGLES: 2,200,000 "You Are Everything": 200,000 "Upside Down": 200,000 "I'm Coming Out": 400,000 "My Old Piano": 200,000 "Endless Love": 400,000 "Why Do Fools Fall in Love": 200,000 "Chain Reaction": 400,000 "When You Tell Me That You Love Me": 200,000 _______________________________ Eternal: 4,225,000 Spoiler ALBUMS: 3,000,000 Always & Forever: 1,200,000 Power of a Woman: 600,000 Before the Rain: 300,000 Greatest Hits: 900,000 VIDEO ALBUMS: 25,000 Always & Forever: 25,000 SINGLES: 1,200,000 "Oh Baby I...": 200,000 "I Am Blessed": 200,000 "I Wanna Be the Only One": 600,000 "Angel of Mine": 200,000 _______________________________ Kelly Rowland: 3,360,000 Spoiler ALBUMS: 360,000 Simply Deep: 300,000 Here I Am: 60,000 SINGLES: 3,000,000 "Dilemma": 1,200,000 "Stole": 200,000 "Work": 400,000 "When Love Takes Over": 600,000 "Commander": 400,000 "Invincible": 200,000 Kelly also has "Like This", "Motivation", "Down for Whatever" and "What a Feeling" which are on their way to Silver (200K). _______________________________ Destiny's Child: 9,225,000 Spoiler ALBUMS: 3,200,000 Destiny's Child: 100,000 The Writing's on the Wall: 900,000 Survivor: 900,000 This Is the Remix: 100,000 Destiny Fulfilled: 600,000 #1's: 600,000 VIDEO ALBUMS: 25,000 Destiny's Child World Tour: 25,000 SINGLES: 6,000,000 "No, No, No": 200,000 "Bills, Bills, Bills": 400,000 "Bug a Boo": 200,000 "Say My Name": 1,200,000 "Jumpin', Jumpin'": 400,000 "Independent Women Part I": 600,000 "Survivor": 600,000 "Bootylicious": 600,000 "Emotion": 200,000 "8 Days of Christmas": 200,000 "Lose My Breath": 400,000 "Soldier": 200,000 "Girl": 200,000 "The Girl Is Mine": 600,000 _______________________________ Leona Lewis: 10,385,000 Spoiler ALBUMS: 3,760,000 Spirit: 3,000,000 Echo: 600,000 Glassheart: 60,000 Christmas, with Love: 100,000 VIDEO ALBUMS: 25,000 The Labyrinth Tour Live from The O2: 25,000 SINGLES: 6,600,000 "A Moment Like This": 600,000 "Bleeding Love": 1,800,000 "Better in Time": 400,000 "Footprints in the Sand": 400,000 "Run": 1,200,000 "Happy": 200,000 "Collide": 200,000 "One More Sleep": 1,200,000 "You Are the Reason": 600,000 Not sure if you count group/charity singles which would be a further 1 million, giving her 11,385,000 total: "Everybody Hurts" (as part of Helping Haiti): 600,000 "Bridge over Troubled Water" (as part of Artists for Grenfell): 400,000
LesFleur Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 @istan4badgalriri Can you make OP a top 50 or top 100? Aretha Franklin: 3,000,000 Spoiler (figures may be higher/lower as the certification levels were changed to the current ones in 1979) ALBUMS: 60,000 Who's Zoomin' Who?: 60,000 COMPILATION ALBUMS: 540,000 The Best of Aretha Franklin: 60,000 The First Lady of Soul: 60,000 Greatest Hits: 1980–1994: 60,000 Queen of Soul: The Very Best of Aretha Franklin: 100,000 Greatest Hits: 100,000 Respect: The Very Best of Aretha Franklin: 100,000 The Very Best of Aretha Franklin & Otis Redding Together: 60,000 SINGLES: 2,400,000 "Respect": 600,000 "Baby I Love You": 400,000 "(You Make Me Feel Like) A Natural Woman": 200,000 "Think": 200,000 "I Say a Little Prayer": 600,000 "I Knew You Were Waiting (For Me)": 400,000 Kate Bush: 5,360,000 Spoiler STUDIO ALBUMS: 2,460,000 The Kick Inside: 300,000 Lionheart: 300,000 Never for Ever: 100,000 The Dreaming: 60,000 Hounds of Love: 600,000 The Sensual World: 300,000 The Red Shoes: 300,000 Aerial: 300,000 Director's Cut: 100,000 50 Words for Snow: 100,000 LIVE ALBUMS: 100,000 Before the Dawn: 100,000 COMPILATION ALBUMS: 1,200,000 The Whole Story: 1,200,000 SINGLES: 1,600,000 "Wuthering Heights": 600,000 "Running Up That Hill": 600,000 "Cloudbusting": 200,000 "This Woman's Work": 200,000 Sugababes: 6,160,000 Spoiler STUDIO ALBUMS: 2,560,000 One Touch: 100,000 Angels with Dirty Faces: 900,000 Three: 600,000 Taller in More Ways: 600,000 Change: 300,000 Catfights and Spotlights: 60,000 COMPILATION ALBUMS: 600,000 Overloaded: The Singles Collection: 600,000 SINGLES: 3,000,000 "Overload": 200,000 "Freak Like Me": 200,000 "Round Round": 200,000 "Hole in the Head": 200,000 "Too Lost in You": 400,000 "Push the Button": 600,000 "Ugly": 200,000 "About You Now": 600,000 "Girls": 200,000 "Get Sexy": 200,000
idkwiam Posted April 18, 2022 Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, LesFleur said: @istan4badgalriri Diana Ross: 6,880,000 (excluding all titles credited to The Supremes and Diana Ross & The Supremes) Reveal hidden contents (figures may be higher/lower as the certification levels were changed to the current ones in 1979) ALBUMS: 1,140,000 Surrender (titled I'm Still Waiting in the UK): 60,000 Touch Me in the Morning: 100,000 Diana & Marvin: 100,000 Diana Ross: 100,000 Baby It's Me: 60,000 Diana: 100,000 Why Do Fools Fall in Love: 100,000 Silk Electric: 60,000 Workin' Overtime: 60,000 The Force Behind the Power: 300,000 A Very Special Season: 100,000 SOUNDTRACK ALBUMS: 100,000 Lady Sings the Blues: 100,000 LIVE ALBUMS: 160,000 An Evening with Diana Ross: 60,000 Greatest Hits Live: 100,000 COMPILATION ALBUMS: 3,280,000 Greatest Hits: 100,000 Diana Ross' Greatest Hits: 100,000 20 Golden Greats: 300,000 All the Great Hits: 300,000 Diana's Duets: 60,000 Love Songs: 300,000 Portrait: 100,000 Love Songs (with Michael Jackson): 300,000 Motown's Greatest Hits: 60,000 One Woman: The Ultimate Collection: 1,200,000 Voice of Love: 100,000 Love & Life: The Very Best of Diana Ross: 300,000 The Greatest: 60,000 SINGLES: 2,200,000 "You Are Everything": 200,000 "Upside Down": 200,000 "I'm Coming Out": 400,000 "My Old Piano": 200,000 "Endless Love": 400,000 "Why Do Fools Fall in Love": 200,000 "Chain Reaction": 400,000 "When You Tell Me That You Love Me": 200,000 _______________________________ Eternal: 4,225,000 Reveal hidden contents ALBUMS: 3,000,000 Always & Forever: 1,200,000 Power of a Woman: 600,000 Before the Rain: 300,000 Greatest Hits: 900,000 VIDEO ALBUMS: 25,000 Always & Forever: 25,000 SINGLES: 1,200,000 "Oh Baby I...": 200,000 "I Am Blessed": 200,000 "I Wanna Be the Only One": 600,000 "Angel of Mine": 200,000 _______________________________ Kelly Rowland: 3,360,000 Reveal hidden contents ALBUMS: 360,000 Simply Deep: 300,000 Here I Am: 60,000 SINGLES: 3,000,000 "Dilemma": 1,200,000 "Stole": 200,000 "Work": 400,000 "When Love Takes Over": 600,000 "Commander": 400,000 "Invincible": 200,000 Kelly also has "Like This", "Motivation", "Down for Whatever" and "What a Feeling" which are on their way to Silver (200K). _______________________________ Destiny's Child: 9,225,000 Reveal hidden contents ALBUMS: 3,200,000 Destiny's Child: 100,000 The Writing's on the Wall: 900,000 Survivor: 900,000 This Is the Remix: 100,000 Destiny Fulfilled: 600,000 #1's: 600,000 VIDEO ALBUMS: 25,000 Destiny's Child World Tour: 25,000 SINGLES: 6,000,000 "No, No, No": 200,000 "Bills, Bills, Bills": 400,000 "Bug a Boo": 200,000 "Say My Name": 1,200,000 "Jumpin', Jumpin'": 400,000 "Independent Women Part I": 600,000 "Survivor": 600,000 "Bootylicious": 600,000 "Emotion": 200,000 "8 Days of Christmas": 200,000 "Lose My Breath": 400,000 "Soldier": 200,000 "Girl": 200,000 "The Girl Is Mine": 600,000 _______________________________ Leona Lewis: 10,385,000 Reveal hidden contents ALBUMS: 3,760,000 Spirit: 3,000,000 Echo: 600,000 Glassheart: 60,000 Christmas, with Love: 100,000 VIDEO ALBUMS: 25,000 The Labyrinth Tour Live from The O2: 25,000 SINGLES: 6,600,000 "A Moment Like This": 600,000 "Bleeding Love": 1,800,000 "Better in Time": 400,000 "Footprints in the Sand": 400,000 "Run": 1,200,000 "Happy": 200,000 "Collide": 200,000 "One More Sleep": 1,200,000 "You Are the Reason": 600,000 Not sure if you count group/charity singles which would be a further 1 million, giving her 11,385,000 total: "Everybody Hurts" (as part of Helping Haiti): 600,000 "Bridge over Troubled Water" (as part of Artists for Grenfell): 400,000 OMG at the OBLITERATION or Miss Ross stats. A living legend!
Steven Chen Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 6 hours ago, idkwiam said: "You Are the Reason": 600,000 Leona is not credited on YRTR in UK
LesFleur Posted April 19, 2022 Posted April 19, 2022 10 hours ago, Steven Chen said: Leona is not credited on YRTR in UK
Delirious Posted May 14, 2022 Posted May 14, 2022 sis @istan4badgalririis it possible for you to update this thread? It hasnt been updated in over 5 months Thank you!!!
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