Letters From Adi Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 2 hours ago, opruh said: With these massive radio updates, the only noble and right thing to do is to admit that LWYMMD is mega smash hit. You need to work more on your trolling. 1-800 is falling slower on Rhythmic now...
mike3009 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, Kworb said: Payola is to get songs started, not to get them to #1. It's not practical. There's nothing strange about her run on pop radio. Leave it to the radio experts here to tell you otherwise.
Rawr Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 57 minutes ago, Eóghan said: Did y'all see Liam (#1) and Niall's (#3) freefall? -440 spins and -377 spins. I'm sorry but Taylor's explosion is completely organic, it was HER TURN. She was stuck in the top 5 forever waiting for the twink boys to peak. Y'all can call this payola all you want but it is ORGANIC. During Taylor's entire run on Pop, she only got 3 days of negative spins: the 2nd of October, the 3rd and the 4th. And the loss in spins was barely noticeable, between -20 and -60 spins. If you cumulate all of Liam' negative spin days in Pop, he's well above 15 days. The song was never dead, very much alive, just stuck between songs and waiting to be put on power rotation once the other song above her peaks. imagine being this delusional
Agenor Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Kworb said: Payola is to get songs started, not to get them to #1. It's not practical. There's nothing strange about her run on pop radio. I think that the strangest thing about her run on pop radio is that it still hasn't appeared on call-out scores after 6 weeks. Has there ever been a case of a #1 on pop radio that doesn't have a 60% familiarity among the listeners?
Kworb Posted October 11, 2017 Author Posted October 11, 2017 5 minutes ago, Agenor said: I think that the strangest thing about her run on pop radio is that it still hasn't appeared on call-out scores after 6 weeks. Has there ever been a case of a #1 on pop radio that doesn't have a 60% familiarity among the listeners? Well there used to be 20+ currents on that list and right now there are only 11. So the problem is with callout research in general, not Taylor's song.
Mediabase Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) In the US Taylor is part of a small label, Big Machine. She is their biggest name so they have the time and resources to just focus exclusively on her. Edited October 11, 2017 by Mediabase
Agenor Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 15 minutes ago, Kworb said: Well there used to be 20+ currents on that list and right now there are only 11. So the problem is with callout research in general, not Taylor's song. Or the radio is creating artificial #1s that the GP doesn't care about and are not familiar with. Just look at Portugal. The Man who has been on the call out scores list for more than a month and the entire time it had lower audience than Taylor - how can it be that the lesser played song is more familiar (not to mention that it is from an unknown artist) than the one from Taylor Swift? Or Pink who has been on the list for two weeks now and has half of the audience (and spins) LWYMMD has. It is very strange.
Kworb Posted October 11, 2017 Author Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Agenor said: Or the radio is creating artificial #1s that the GP doesn't care about and are not familiar with. Just look at Portugal. The Man who has been on the call out scores list for more than a month and the entire time it had lower audience than Taylor - how can it be that the lesser played song is more familiar (not to mention that it is from an unknown artist) than the one from Taylor Swift? Or Pink who has been on the list for two weeks now and has half of the audience (and spins) LWYMMD has. It is very strange. Exactly, it's impossible that LWYMMD has less familiarity than those songs. I wouldn't rely so much on that callout table. It's not transparent or even relevant. Stations care a lot more about local callout. The song is selling and streaming well enough and is the lead single by the biggest star in the US. It would be strange if radio didn't take it to #1.
Headlock Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 (edited) Regarding callouts, it's possible some Pop radio listeners still don't know that it's Taylor who is singing LWYMMD, because it is such a departure from her usual sound, so therefore that's why she hasn't reached 60% "familiarity" on that format? To the people insinuating Taylor/her team is keeping LWYMMD off of the Pop callouts, what exactly would be the purpose of that? Radio people would be able to find out anyways, and there are still local callouts available to them, plus the only people in the "GP" who care about callouts are chart watchers like the people in this thread. Some people take this stuff way too seriously Edited October 11, 2017 by Headlock
Rawr Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 how is LWYMMD not on callouts yet when it's almost #1 on pop
Mr. Adele Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 17 minutes ago, Rawr said: how is LWYMMD not on callouts yet when it's almost #1 on pop OT: How is Thunder doing on radio? It will probably go #1 on radio right?
WonderstruckFR Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 I think Sorry Not Sorry also appeared on the callout list super late no? Maybe LWYMMD will finally appear on it this Friday, right in time for the #1 hopefully. Thunder is killing it on radio, already top 15 on pop ! Overall: 23. IMAGINE DRAGONS - Thunder: 69.764 (+2.366)
Heart.me Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 6 = TAYLOR SWIFT Look What You Made Me Do 121.595 +2.884 lol
Mediabase Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 Meanwhile, it is down to no17 with huge negative updates on the Canadian Top40/Pop radio chart which is always pretty much identical to the US one. Not enough checks for Canada?
peterstyles13 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mediabase said: Meanwhile, it is down to no17 with huge negative updates on the Canadian Top40/Pop radio chart which is always pretty much identical to the US one. Not enough checks for Canada? Sis, why are you so pressed by this? As if this is the first time a label pushes a song
DELE2125 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 52 minutes ago, Headlock said: Regarding callouts, it's possible some Pop radio listeners still don't know that it's Taylor who is singing LWYMMD, because it is such a departure from her usual sound, so therefore that's why she hasn't reached 60% "familiarity" on that format? To the people insinuating Taylor/her team is keeping LWYMMD off of the Pop callouts, what exactly would be the purpose of that? Radio people would be able to find out anyways, and there are still local callouts available to them, plus the only people in the "GP" who care about callouts are chart watchers like the people in this thread. Some people take this stuff way too seriously Sure, because when Taylor switched from country to pop (like you swifties like to say it was risky and a big change) her songs were recognized and charted on the call-out scores faster than LWYMMD, which is her lead single, coming from her biggest era, meaning that people ARE checking out for her, or am I wrong? So, why would at leats 60% of Pop Radio Listeners wouldn't know that's Taylor Swift's new single? And well, we're having this discussion in the US AIRPLAY DISCUSSION THREAD, so, which other place is more appropriate than here? Also, how come indie band Portugal. The Man can chart in call-out scores, but the allegedly biggest pop star on the planet still can't? It all seems a little fishy, don't you think? I also Imagine that when they finally decide to reveal Taylor's call-out, the song will be at least in the top 3, right? That's why she's been rising so much as of lately, for the positive audience reaction on Pop, no?
WonderstruckFR Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 20 minutes ago, Mediabase said: Meanwhile, it is down to no17 with huge negative updates on the Canadian Top40/Pop radio chart which is always pretty much identical to the US one. Not enough checks for Canada? Are you planning to post this on every page of this thread?
QueenofCopyPaste Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, Mediabase said: Meanwhile, it is down to no17 with huge negative updates on the Canadian Top40/Pop radio chart which is always pretty much identical to the US one. Not enough checks for Canada? Its obviously US only
taylor__fan Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 The way Taylor revived this thread, her power
peterstyles13 Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 1 minute ago, taylor__fan said: The way Taylor revived this thread, her power Whew
Sinister Posted October 11, 2017 Posted October 11, 2017 Oh wow...Swifties brining up Demi You would think a Taylor lead single coming off of 1989 would not be compared to a Demi lead single...but they have to make a point somehow This truly is the era that keeps on giving ?
Fruity Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 6 hours ago, Kworb said: There's nothing strange about her run on pop radio. I'm sorry but I'd like to know how many times before this in the last decade a song has received 4 (or more) consecutive negative updates on a format and then within a week was getting +3m audience updates. Cause I'd take a confident punt at 0.
Headlock Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, DELE2125 said: Sure, because when Taylor switched from country to pop (like you swifties like to say it was risky and a big change) her songs were recognized and charted on the call-out scores faster than LWYMMD, which is her lead single, coming from her biggest era, meaning that people ARE checking out for her, or am I wrong? So, why would at leats 60% of Pop Radio Listeners wouldn't know that's Taylor Swift's new single? And well, we're having this discussion in the US AIRPLAY DISCUSSION THREAD, so, which other place is more appropriate than here? Also, how come indie band Portugal. The Man can chart in call-out scores, but the allegedly biggest pop star on the planet still can't? It all seems a little fishy, don't you think? I also Imagine that when they finally decide to reveal Taylor's call-out, the song will be at least in the top 3, right? That's why she's been rising so much as of lately, for the positive audience reaction on Pop, no? Oh my god, why are so pressed by Taylor 24/7? I was offering a POSSIBLE explanation as to why she's not on Pop callouts yet, which everyone here, INCLUDING SWIFTIES, agrees is strange. You and the other pressed souls in here are the ones flinging around conspiracy theories like it's no tomorrow, when we're talking about callout scores lmao. It's not a big deal Again, I will reiterate, because you completely ignored the point I was trying to make, WHAT would Taylor gain by deliberately keeping LWYMMD off of the Pop callouts list? To spite you and everyone else pressed like a panini on this forum? Edited October 12, 2017 by Headlock
WonderstruckFR Posted October 12, 2017 Posted October 12, 2017 12 minutes ago, Fruity said: I'm sorry but I'd like to know how many times before this in the last decade a song has received 4 (or more) consecutive negative updates on a format and then within a week was getting +3m audience updates. Cause I'd take a confident punt at 0. I think Wild Thoughts had a pretty similar run on pop radio this summer. I remember the song having mediocre/negative updates in August, and then surging with the +1M/+2M updates And that's also because last week updates were negative that they are that huge this week for LWYMMD
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