IAMRodrigo Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mattyboy said: He had a hit. It’s #2 on iTunes. Go check. Wasn't iTunes a dead platform? By the way, SS is doing fine, but not a hit yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, KillingYourCareer said: I'm more curious about the second week We need to be more concerned with this disastrous first week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adonis Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, YR. said: You can say what you want, i'm sure JT wasn't expecting these numbers even with the sales decline. Then why didnt Taylor decline. First week sales has always been about the fanbase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor__fan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 Great numbers for the king He will do even more with the superbowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Henstridge said: He's over 20 years into his career, and considered a legend already, has no hit single currently, and yet he's still outselling everyone but 5 people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lophorina Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 52 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: Isn’t that obvious? None of male singers especially last 22 years has got close to him... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Lophorina said: Isn’t that obvious? None of male singers especially last 22 years has got close to him... Even if this wasn't a total lie, it still wouldn't make him a legend. There's no such thing as a legend by default. He doesn't have the prerequisites to be one, which is the case for most artists and it's totally fine. He is just an artist who had consistent success for some time. The PR attempts to paint him as anything more are probably the reason why he's the new bandwagon hate target / media punching bag now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkboy Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Truth Teller said: Even if this wasn't a total lie, it still wouldn't make him a legend. There's no such thing as a legend by default. He doesn't have the prerequisites to be one, which is the case for most artists and it's totally fine. He is just an artist who had consistent success for some time. The PR attempts to paint him as anything more are probably the reason why he's the new bandwagon hate target / media punching bag now. ..sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lophorina Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Henstridge said: What makes someone a legend then? If it's not the constant impact JT has had on male pop stars? The huge number of classics he has? The longevity? Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Henstridge said: What makes someone a legend then? If it's not the constant impact JT has had on male pop stars? The huge number of classics he has? The longevity? He doesn't have constant impact on anyone. I do remember his sound and image being a mainstay on the inspiration board of white European singers attempting r&b for like a year, a decade ago. Other than that, he hasn't brought anything fresh, new or impactful in the way a legend is supposed to. His classics are CMAR, possibly Sexyback and maybe in the long run CSTF / RYB could survive as radio fodder. Meh As for longevity, it depends on how you count it. If it's by years, sure, I guess? If it's by albums (which it should be), he was already struggling to get hits and worldwide sales by his 4th one (or the second part of his 3rd one, if you will), so idk. We'll see how this era turns out I guess? There's cute stuff on the album if the bandwagon doesn't eat away the momentum I don't consider anyone from his generation a legend btw. Beyonce is the only one getting close with everyone else straggling miles behind the finish line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Henstridge said: the constant impact JT has had on male pop stars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slw84 Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Truth Teller said: he clears 2/4 so Pop music legend- Check Pop culture legend - Check Entertainment legend- maybe icon...I'll go for yes Music legend - icon could be a legend in the future 2-3 of 4. I'd go for yes he's a light weight legend that'll further cement himself Edited February 4, 2018 by slw84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TattooedDreams Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 9 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: He doesn't have constant impact on anyone. I do remember his sound and image being a mainstay on the inspiration board of white European singers attempting r&b for like a year, a decade ago. Other than that, he hasn't brought anything fresh, new or impactful in the way a legend is supposed to. His classics are CMAR, possibly Sexyback and maybe in the long run CSTF / RYB could survive as radio fodder. Meh As for longevity, it depends on how you count it. If it's by years, sure, I guess? If it's by albums (which it should be), he was already struggling to get hits and worldwide sales by his 4th one (or the second part of his 3rd one, if you will), so idk. We'll see how this era turns out I guess? There's cute stuff on the album if the bandwagon doesn't eat away the momentum I don't consider anyone from his generation a legend btw. Beyonce is the only one getting close with everyone else straggling miles behind the finish line He’s impacted plenty male artists this decade including the biggest, Ed Sheeran. Please do your research. I know y’all only know about female pop stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, TattooedDreams said: He’s impacted plenty male artists this decade including the biggest, Ed Sheeran. Please do your research. I know y’all only know about female pop stars. Im gonna need receipts on this one sir All I remember is people saying "Sing" sounded Timberlake-esque in the chorus, but that was false. It sounds like Pharrell, if anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lophorina Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, TattooedDreams said: He’s impacted plenty male artists this decade including the biggest, Ed Sheeran. Please do your research. I know y’all only know about female pop stars. I don’t understand why so many people is trying to discredit him and his achievements... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javan Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 16 minutes ago, Truth Teller said: He doesn't have constant impact on anyone. I do remember his sound and image being a mainstay on the inspiration board of white European singers attempting r&b for like a year, a decade ago. And even that was modelled on Usher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iHype. Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Henstridge said: People who cited JT as one of their influences: -Ed Sheeran -Justin Bieber -Shawn Mendes -Charlie Puth -The 1D boys and that's just off top of my head, these are basically the most successful pop boys of the last decade, and they were all influenced by JT What a respected list of talented artists Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Henstridge said: "I love 'Justified' and 'FutureSex/LoveSounds, so I took inspiration from those So... he was inspired by the sound of these 2 albums... which is pretty much the sound Pharrell, Timbaland, Danja and co. were already working on before JT ever got in the picture? And even during that era, they were doing the exact same sound, structure and vibe with other artists (especially Nelly) without Timberlake's involvement? Sure... if that's the biggest possible receipt on Timberlake's impact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TattooedDreams Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Henstridge said: Forgot to mention that he also made the Times 100 most influential people twice, once in 2007 and once in 2013 And Stevie Wonder did his one in 2013 and said marvelous things. Poor OJHs and their separation from reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth Teller Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 54 minutes ago, Henstridge said: Who's even talking about that, what? We're talking about people that cited JT as their influence, and Ed is one of those people, he didn't say Pharrell and Timba inspired him, he said JT did No, he didn't. Timberlake's name is outside of the quote. He said he was inspired by those 2 albums aka Pharrell's sound and Timabaland and his team's mid 2000's sound, respectively. As for Time 100, it's a PR thing. Christina made it in her worst performing era with a fabulous article by Celine Dion. I place no credence in it Timberlake was one of the most prominent male artists of that decade, no question about that. If we move Usher to the r&b stars list, he's probably the most prominent male popstar of that decade (except if I'm forgetting someone). And that's great. Can we leave it at that? Cause no matter what soundbites you give me of artists of Shawn Mendes' calibre saying vaguely positive things about him, he's still absolutely not on the same pedestal as MJ, Prince, Madonna, Whitney and co. And he never will be. And neither will most of his peers, including the ones I actually like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
www Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 8 hours ago, YungRapunxeI said: But he’s the king of pop. Why didn’t he do 600k+ SPS? except he is not the king of pop...people throw silly titles easily.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Bank$ Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, www said: except he is not the king of pop...people throw silly titles easily.... teaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 he's performing to 100+ million people. If he doesn't get more than 500k, it was a waste of a spotlight. The era/album is bad though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 2 hours ago, iHype. said: Imagine believing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyTheNight Posted February 5, 2018 Share Posted February 5, 2018 imagine wanting to buy MOTW after the super bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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