By the Water Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 If this doesn't include the SB boost then 350k is pretty good.
Idontcareaboutyou Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, TKO said: Not random. The only pure pop artists who can still pull big number are JT, Taylor and Adele. Beyonce too. I said that because she has the pop fans and urbans fans love her too. That's all. Most of my friends who listen to Kanye or Drake for example are Beyonce stans too. but they wouldn't touch a Taylor or Adele record. That's all. Bieber as well.
Holiest Dreams Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 27 minutes ago, Divine said: Their 300-350k prediction is attempting to take the SB boost into account. His predictions may increase after the show, but I doubt it will be a +200k increase. I’m sure he can do it! ATRL told me he was the king of pop so I expect a big boost
UNNAMI Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 19 hours ago, UNNAMI said: 200k will be good, but a little underwhelimg 300k is expected 400k will be phenomal 500k will be huge huge huge 19 hours ago, PopFan said: Anything below 600k would be bad. 19 hours ago, Cheetos said: less than 500k is gonna be a mess 18 hours ago, Unbreakable Smile said: Somewhere between 400k-550k I think. 18 hours ago, Truth Teller said: 200k is a complete disaster 300k is pretty bad 400k is decent, but a little underwhelming 500k is good 600k is great 700k+ is huge These are the realistic (SPS) standards for the album of an A-lister coming back from the biggest hit of his career with a launch that included 3 singles, all sent to multiple radio formats, promoted heavily on Spotify and receiving official videos. And, most importantly, the Superbowl. - Exciting 18 hours ago, Blank said: I could see 500-600k with a good show on Sunday. I bet his catalog ends up doing well regardless though 18 hours ago, chris1991 said: Same. Won’t cross 700k physical. 18 hours ago, Mr.Link said: A 300k debut is “very big” these days so let’s wait for the actual numbers. 18 hours ago, EnoughSaid said: No girl. You are doing too much the reality: 200k would be a collasal flop 300k would be very underwhelming with SB 400k will be respectable with SB 500k would be good 600k would be great 700k would be amazing 800k+ would be outstanding/phenomenal 18 hours ago, Crescendolls. said: He'll easily do 600k+ 14 hours ago, TKO said: I'll predict 300k since album sales are the pits and he has no smash hits this era. 'Say Something' has potential but i heard he will be performing 'Filthy'. 13 hours ago, Meowster said: I’m expecting around 1M. 13 hours ago, WhateverYouWant said: I’m predicting 650k-750k. considering he has the SB on Sunday. HDD: 350k
Divine Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, TKO said: Not random. The only pure pop artists who can still pull big number are JT, Taylor and Adele. Beyonce too. I said that because she has the pop fans and urbans fans love her too. That's all. Most of my friends who listen to Kanye or Drake for example are Beyonce stans too. but they wouldn't touch a Taylor or Adele record. That's all. Most "pop fans" don't even like Beyoncé anymore, so. And there are plenty of urban music listeners who buy Justin Timberlake albums (or used to, anyway). Country music fans buy Taylor albums. Every artist has their niches. Quit trying to discredit Beyoncé.
UNNAMI Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Swift reputation 1.216 million drake views 1.04 million Kendrick Lamar 603,000 Drake More Life 505,000 Ed Sheeran 451,000 P!Nk 408,000 Eminem 267,000 Jay Z 262,000 Sam Smith 237,000 the weeknd starboy 209,000 Katy Perry 180,000
SelenaTheWinner Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Great numbers for JT. Congrats to him!
TattooedDreams Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, UNNAMI said: Swift reputation 1.216 million drake views 1.04 million Kendrick Lamar 603,000 Drake More Life 505,000 Ed Sheeran 451,000 P!Nk 408,000 Eminem 267,000 Jay Z 262,000 Sam Smith 237,000 the weeknd starboy 209,000 Katy Perry 180,000 He’ll by around more life in the end imo. Or at least be the highest debut by a male singer in a very long time. He still has the highest debut by a male artist (pure) this decade and this is 22 years in his career, impressive. Edited February 3, 2018 by TattooedDreams
Popboi. Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 32 minutes ago, Divine said: And is this prediction SPS? Because on page 2 I predicted a minimum of 375k in pure sales. Wow your prediction is clearly the standard the entire industry should follow
zach Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 45 minutes ago, robotdanger said: Yikes. What a steep decline from 900k with 20/20. Even with the SB, he’s gonna do less. I guess this is okay considering the bad press of the album. I don’t think it will do well after the SB hype wears off tbh. Imagine pretending that the climate hasn’t completely changed in the past five years. Still selling more than his peers.
Adonis Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) His last album in feb did like 900k right? So basically his fan base is cut in half. It was exactly 5 years. It feels like another Eminem situation... but with much less chance for JT to recover from it. Edited February 3, 2018 by Adonis
Starkboy Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Adonis said: His last album in feb did like 700k right? So basically his fan base is cut in half. It wasn't even 5 years ago. It feels like another Eminem situation... but with much less chance for JT to recover from it. lol sure
Idontcareaboutyou Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 His problem is that his streaming is pretty weak so as the market shrinks his debuts will become weaker and weaker even accounting for SPS as he can't make up for lost pure sales with streaming.
YungRapunxeI Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Since he’s the king of pop anything below 1M would be a huge disappointment.
RastaMentality Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 less than 1M the week of the SB is a joke. drake deleted him twice why
Adonis Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Starkboy said: lol sure Stay mad. The truth is Justin is selling much less than previously. I made a mistake in that its exactly 5 years since the previous release. Sure record sales are halved more so now but Justin isn't a streaming monster. What you are left with is someone who can't make up the difference. Does anyone expect Justin's second week to be good or ok? I feel like the era will be over once the week is over. Edited February 3, 2018 by Adonis
Delicious Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Terrible numbers. Filthy must have really done a number on him for these to be his sales with all the SB hype. Talent lost I guess? We’ll see if the SB will boost him to over 500k. Because these numbers look very similar to the Ed Sheeran/Weeknd’s who didn’t have as much going for them. Edited February 3, 2018 by Delicious
TSLGNMA Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, RastaMentality said: less than 1M the week of the SB is a joke. drake deleted him twice why The Superbowl literally hasn't happened yet sis... HDD can't predict what the response will be after the performance. They're literally just guessing. There's no such thing as a pre-Super Bowl, Super Bowl boost. Maybe they are right, maybe they are wrong, but I can't with ya'll dragging JT for laughably unofficial numbers. If you want to drag him by all means do it... but do it after the actual sales numbers are released late next week whether they be lower or higher than the current predictions. Edited February 3, 2018 by TSLGNMA
TKO Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 20 minutes ago, Divine said: Most "pop fans" don't even like Beyoncé anymore, so. And there are plenty of urban music listeners who buy Justin Timberlake albums (or used to, anyway). Country music fans buy Taylor albums. Every artist has their niches. Quit trying to discredit Beyoncé. It was the opposite. I was claiming she's one of the only artists who still can pull big numbers and appeal to both pop and urban audiences. calm down.
RastaMentality Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 28 minutes ago, TattooedDreams said: He’ll by around more life in the end imo. Or at least be the highest debut by a male singer in a very long time. He still has the highest debut by a male artist (pure) this decade and this is 22 years in his career, impressive. less than Ed why
TattooedDreams Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, RastaMentality said: less than Ed why Won't be for long and that's saying a lot when it debuted a year ago with one of the biggest hits of the decade 16 minutes ago, Idontcareaboutyou said: His problem is that his streaming is pretty weak so as the market shrinks his debuts will become weaker and weaker even accounting for SPS as he can't make up for lost pure sales with streaming. And by the time that happens he'll be 30 years in as an established legend and it won't matter as he'll be going on sold out tours. OT: Can't wait for the show tomorrow
Destiny Posted February 3, 2018 Posted February 3, 2018 49 minutes ago, TKO said: The only popstars that could pull better numbers right now are Adele and Taylor. Beyonce probably but she has the urban audience too. And Justin Bieber, just sayin'
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