chosensparkles Posted July 19, 2018 Share Posted July 19, 2018 17 minutes ago, Temporal said: Found numbers for Joanne the single: February 1st - Soundscan Joanne (Where Do You Think You're Going) - 10,594 first week Joanne (All Versions) - 53,481 cumulative Definitely safe to say the single is above 60k in the US by now. Queen!!! She deserves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthoe Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 14 hours ago, Temporal said: Found numbers for Joanne the single: February 1st - Soundscan Joanne (Where Do You Think You're Going) - 10,594 first week Joanne (All Versions) - 53,481 cumulative Definitely safe to say the single is above 60k in the US by now. Outsold G.U.Y. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temporal Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 Most recent Soundscan numbers (all from this month via Chartdata): 4,805,746 The Fame 2,422,035 Born This Way 1,642,000 The Fame Monster 777,000* ARTPOP 762,649 Cheek To Cheek 627,224 Joanne ARTPOP was a few ticks over 776k about two months ago. Should be safely at 777k now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 11M albums sold in the US (in pure sales) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosensparkles Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 7 minutes ago, Hurem said: 11M albums sold in the US (in pure sales) Only a legend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temporal Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Hurem said: 11M albums sold in the US (in pure sales) Coming for 12M with LG6 when you remember The Remix (315,000), Born This Way: The Remix (62,000) and A Very Gaga Holiday (45,000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty Posted July 20, 2018 Share Posted July 20, 2018 5 hours ago, Hurem said: 11M albums sold in the US (in pure sales) With remix, holiday and other albums it's around 11.5M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Cake Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Let's do a short breakdown and a Spotify update: THE FAME ERA (#2) US Sales: 4,806,000 copies Worldwide Sales: ~16 million copies Spotify Streams: 687,617,445 streams (707,588,402 Remixes Included) Remixes = 19,970,957 streams THE FAME MONSTER ERA (#5) US Sales: 1,642,000 copies Worldwide Sales: ~2,8 million copies Spotify Streams: 617,948,182 streams (644,096,644 Remixes Included) Remixes = 26,148,462 streams BORN THIS WAY ERA (#1) US Sales: 2,422,000 copies Worldwide Sales: ~7 million copies Spotify Streams: 465,080,166 streams (490,783,771 Remixes Included) Remixes =25,703,605 streams ARTPOP ERA (#1) US Sales : 777,000 copies Worldwide Sales: ~2,1 million copies Spotify Streams: 496,201,378 streams (511,322,630 Remixes Included) Remixes = 15,121,252 streams JOANNE ERA (#1) US Sales: 627,000 copies Worldwide Sales: ~1,3 million copies Spotify Streams: 653,502,006 streams (667,116,750 Remixes Included) Remixes = 13,614,744 streams Cummulative Spotify Streams: THE FAME MONSTER ERA = 1,305,565,627 streams Remixes incl. = 1,351,685,046 streams BORN THIS WAY ERA = 465,080,166 streams Remixes incl. = 490,783,771 streams ARTPOP ERA = 496,201,378 streams Remixes incl. = 511,322,630 streams CHEEK TO CHEEK ERA = 80,398,679 streams JOANNE ERA = 653,502,006 streams Remixed incl. 667,116,750 streams OTHERS = 261,100,208 streams TOTAL CAREER SPOTIFY STREAMS = 3,362,407,084 streams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Coming for 4B with ASIB and 5B with LG6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiSuperManii Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, Dr.Cake said: Let's do a short breakdown and a Spotify update: wow thanks for this but MTN - Zedd Remix alone has like 39 million streams so is the BTW number wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bestforthelast Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 5 hours ago, Hurem said: Coming for 4B with ASIB and 5B with LG6. And 5B with C3C 24 minutes ago, iiSuperManii said: wow thanks for this but MTN - Zedd Remix alone has like 39 million streams so is the BTW number wrong? They count them together or something, cause remix shows the same amount as original. So BTW numbers are correct ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiSuperManii Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Just now, Bestforthelast said: They count them together or something, cause remix shows the same amount as original. So BTW numbers are correct ;) omg true What kind of Mess though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
State of Grace. Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Dr.Cake said: Let's do a short breakdown and a Spotify update: thanks for the breakdown sis can't wait for BTW to reach 500m (incl. remixes) too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Cake Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 3 hours ago, iiSuperManii said: omg true What kind of Mess though The real streaming numbers for the Zedd Remix are about 430K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Cake Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) Both ARTPOP and Joanne could have had better numbers if she didn't stop promoting singles after the second one. Either way, both A-YO and John Wayne are nearing 50 million streams, which is quite impressive for regular album tracks and for songs their genre. In today's streaming age, to force push the streaming counter of a whole record can be easily done by releasing as many singles and promotional tracks before the release of the whole record as possible. Of course this ruins the surprise experience of a fan, when you already know more than half of it by the time it is out, but this is how it works. Releasing individual songs before the album release, once every few weeks, gets more exposure to them and leads to bigger streaming numbers even for album tracks. It's basically the way Dua Lipa or Zara Larson ended up having billion streamed records. Gaga, on the other hand, usually tends to release about 2 singles and maybe one or two promotional singles (which are usually too close to the album release, usually two weeks prior), which is why it's hard for her to get bigger streaming numbers to more than just two songs on a record. For her next pop release, she could do it the Ariana way: release the lead about 4 months before the album drops and put out one song every 3-4 weeks before the final album. It gives more exposure to these individual tracks. Promotional schedules which included avoiding to release many songs before the album hits stores cause it ''confuses'' the radio plays and it affects the rollout of the actual single, are OLD. If a song is meant to be an organic hit, the radio will push it anyway in favour of others. Also, I highly doubt Gaga would put anything out at this point that could compete as a #1 pop record on the radio, which is why forcing radio deals to push a song the radio will drop the next week the deal is over is a wrong way of doing it. If you wanna seem succesful, you need streams. And you don't get streams by releasing two songs before the record and by stopping after the second single. Edited July 21, 2018 by Dr.Cake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 35 minutes ago, Dr.Cake said: Both ARTPOP and Joanne could have had better numbers if she didn't stop promoting singles after the second one. Either way, both A-YO and John Wayne are nearing 50 million streams, which is quite impressive for regular album tracks and for songs their genre. She actually promoted only Million Reasons for real. A-YO got two (?) televised performances and John Wayne got one, but not enough to consider it an actual promo, if you get what I'm saying. 37 minutes ago, Dr.Cake said: In today's streaming age, to force push the streaming counter of a whole record can be easily done by releasing as many singles and promotional tracks before the release of the whole record as possible. Of course this ruins the surprise experience of a fan, when you already know more than half of it by the time it is out, but this is how it works. Releasing individual songs before the album release, once every few weeks, gets more exposure to them and leads to bigger streaming numbers even for album tracks. It's basically the way Dua Lipa or Zara Larson ended up having billion streamed records. Gaga, on the other hand, usually tends to release about 2 singles and maybe one or two promotional singles (which are usually too close to the album release, usually two weeks prior), which is why it's hard for her to get bigger streaming numbers to more than just two songs on a record. Born This Way era (promo) single rollout could work in streaming era. Born This Way (single): February 11 Judas (2nd single): April 15 The Edge of Glory: May 9 Hair: May 16 Born This Way (album): May 23 The second single should be out earlier nowadays, but BTW was smashing so there was no point in releasing another song. But overall I think 4 songs released before the album is enough. reputation era rollout is something I wouldn't mind either, except for the short amount of time between the lead and second single. 46 minutes ago, Dr.Cake said: Promotional schedules which included avoiding to release many songs before the album hits stores cause it ''confuses'' the radio plays and it affects the rollout of the actual single, are OLD. If a song is meant to be an organic hit, the radio will push it anyway in favour of others. Also, I highly doubt Gaga would put anything out at this point that could compete as a #1 pop record on the radio, which is why forcing radio deals to push a song the radio will drop the next week the deal is over is a wrong way of doing it. Sad, but true. While payola is an easy way to get few points for H100, they shouldn't focus too much on radio 'cause Gaga isn't going higher than top 10 on Pop unless the song does amazing on streaming. Sometimes it feels like her team doesn't completely get how to give a song the best treatment and... that's what they get a lot of money for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infrared Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Dr.Cake said: Both ARTPOP and Joanne could have had better numbers if she didn't stop promoting singles after the second one. Either way, both A-YO and John Wayne are nearing 50 million streams, which is quite impressive for regular album tracks and for songs their genre. In today's streaming age, to force push the streaming counter of a whole record can be easily done by releasing as many singles and promotional tracks before the release of the whole record as possible. Of course this ruins the surprise experience of a fan, when you already know more than half of it by the time it is out, but this is how it works. Releasing individual songs before the album release, once every few weeks, gets more exposure to them and leads to bigger streaming numbers even for album tracks. I 3 hours ago, Hurem said: She actually promoted only Million Reasons for real. A-YO got two (?) televised performances and John Wayne got one, but not enough to consider it an actual promo, if you get what I'm saying. Born This Way era (promo) single rollout could work in streaming era. Born This Way (single): February 11 Judas (2nd single): April 15 The Edge of Glory: May 9 Hair: May 16 Born This Way (album): May 23 The second single should be out earlier nowadays, but BTW was smashing so there was no point in releasing another song. But overall I think 4 songs released before the album is enough. reputation era rollout is something I wouldn't mind either, except for the short amount of time between the lead and second single. Sad, but true. While payola is an easy way to get few points for H100, they shouldn't focus too much on radio 'cause Gaga isn't going higher than top 10 on Pop unless the song does amazing on streaming. Sometimes it feels like her team doesn't completely get how to give a song the best treatment and... that's what they get a lot of money for. 2 songs is fine. Katy released like 3 songs before Witness and it didn't do **** for the album 1st single, promo before or after 2nd single, 2nd single. The Cure was their first attempt to see what works. I don't think they cared whether it flopped or not, they were seeing what metrics were working and was weren't. This time they'll have a better game plan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurem Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 5 hours ago, infrared said: 2 songs is fine. Katy released like 3 songs before Witness and it didn't do **** for the album 1st single, promo before or after 2nd single, 2nd single. The Cure was their first attempt to see what works. I don't think they cared whether it flopped or not, they were seeing what metrics were working and was weren't. This time they'll have a better game plan. Nah, two songs is not enough. Especially with an artist like Gaga whose audience isn't really that strong on streaming. Releasing more stuff will boost all the material released prior to it. She should also push at least one song after the album has been released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Cake Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 7 hours ago, infrared said: 2 songs is fine. Katy released like 3 songs before Witness and it didn't do **** for the album In fact, it did: Swish Swish - 222 million streams Bon Appetit - 147 million streams Chained To The Rythm - 346 million streams One big hit, one small one and a complete bomb. 715 million streams. That's more than the whole Joanne record combined. Looking at how low her album tracks stand on Spotify, do you really think BA (for example) would have accumulated almost 150 million streams if it wasn't released prior to the record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosensparkles Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Dr.Cake said: In fact, it did: Swish Swish - 222 million streams Bon Appetit - 147 million streams Chained To The Rythm - 346 million streams One big hit, one small one and a complete bomb. 715 million streams. That's more than the whole Joanne record combined. Looking at how low her album tracks stand on Spotify, do you really think BA (for example) would have accumulated almost 150 million streams if it wasn't released prior to the record? Payola helped big time on Spotify for Katy! Had Gaga’s team put PI, MR and John Wayne (as it had the video) on TTH, she could have had a billion streamed album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptique Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 16 hours ago, Dr.Cake said: In fact, it did: Swish Swish - 222 million streams Bon Appetit - 147 million streams Chained To The Rythm - 346 million streams One big hit, one small one and a complete bomb. 715 million streams. That's more than the whole Joanne record combined. Looking at how low her album tracks stand on Spotify, do you really think BA (for example) would have accumulated almost 150 million streams if it wasn't released prior to the record? The fact that katy did barely 100M outside of singles while Gaga did 300M outside of singles Also SwishSwish is not even a small spotify hit for its genre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Angel Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I want Gaga to do a traditional release this time around so that way she's actually FORCED to promote the singles and understand the importance of streaming. That way she'll rack up a lot of SPS. The 3 months between the single and album should be all about adapting to streaming, that way she'll have nothing to worry about once the album comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chaos Angel Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 Updated US Pure Album Sales The Fame - 4.8 million The Fame Monster - 1.64 million Born This Way - 2.42 million ARTPOP - 776,000 Cheek To Cheek - 763,000 Joanne - 628,000 The Remix - 315,000 Born This Way: The Remix - 62,000 A Very Gaga Holiday - 45,000 Total: 11.46 million https://chartdata.org/2018/07/21/lady-gagas-updated-career-album-sales/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Temporal Posted July 27, 2018 Share Posted July 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Chaos Angel said: Updated US Pure Album Sales The Fame - 4.8 million The Fame Monster - 1.64 million Born This Way - 2.42 million ARTPOP - 776,000 Cheek To Cheek - 763,000 Joanne - 628,000 The Remix - 315,000 Born This Way: The Remix - 62,000 A Very Gaga Holiday - 45,000 Total: 11.46 million https://chartdata.org/2018/07/21/lady-gagas-updated-career-album-sales/ Quote ‘ARTPOP’ sales are estimated from its most recent re-entry on the charts this Spring. Sales for other EPs are as of February 2018. I think ARTPOP is 1k higher but whatever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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