Kékette Posted January 3, 2022 Posted January 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: Do you know what is the longest charting single overall in France? 201 weeks - Shape of You (OUT) 146 weeks - Trop beau 144 weeks - La vie qu'on mène 137 weeks - Bad Guy (OUT) 126 weeks - Djadja (OUT) 124 weeks - Shallow 125 weeks - Goutte d'eau (OUT) 122 weeks - Dance Monkey So, since Billie Ellish is was a girl, Shallow is not #2 but #03 (there are 2 versions of Bad Guy, that's why I was wrong, oops)
Edibles. Posted January 7, 2022 Posted January 7, 2022 On 1/2/2022 at 1:06 PM, WildAmerican said: Shallow and JD needed to be certified Diamond at the same time Could you imagine? However... Shallow is probably still a year and a half or two years off from going Diamond. Just Dance should be eligible now
Pop Art Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 Chromatica: 1.132M US SPS 2020: 842k 2021: 290k If only she would have pushed it more, it might be well on it's way to 2M. The way The Fame did 632K in 2020 and 2021, over 10 years after release, and increased ~18% from 2020 (290K) to 2021 (342K).
Hot Volcano Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Pop Art said: Chromatica: 1.132M US SPS 2020: 842k 2021: 290k If only she would have pushed it more, it might be well on it's way to 2M. IKR? Imagine with the Fortnite concert, Sour Candy MV and all the cancelled promo.....this was probably her last chance ever of having a multi platinum studio album Do you know what is Joanne's total in the US by now? I assume it passed 1.4m 10 hours ago, Pop Art said: The way The Fame did 632K in 2020 and 2021, over 10 years after release, and increased ~18% from 2020 (290K) to 2021 (342K). The Fame was certified 6x Platinum on March 27th 2020 , as far as we know it might already be eligible for 7x Platinum! Edited January 8, 2022 by Hot Volcano
Pop Art Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hot Volcano said: The Fame was certified 6x Platinum on March 27th 2020 , as far as we know it might already be eligible for 7x Platinum! On that note...it's likely very, very close to 10M by now using Billboard's methodology. Here's the breakdown. We know that as of March 2020, The Fame is at 6M and The Fame Monster 5M per the RIAA. We also know that as of March 2019, The Fame Monster sold 1.65M pure. Using these numbers — and knowing that all SEA and TEA for The Fame Monster is going to The Fame using Billboard's methodology — if we subtract 1.65M (The Fame Monster pure sales as of March 2019) from 5M (The Fame Monster RIAA SPS as of March 2020) to get The Fame Monster's SEA + TEA and then add that number to The Fame's RIAA SPS, we will get The Fame's Billboard SPS as of March 2020: 5M - 1.65M = 3.35M 6M + 3.35M = 9.35M If we then add an averaged 9 months of its 2020 SPS (since we have to assume that ~January-March 2020 was likely included in that March 2020 RIAA certification) and its full 2021 SPS from Billboard's 2020 and 2021 year-end reports (so 560K), we get a rough total of 9.91M units using Billboard methodology. It could be lower or higher depending on how much The Fame Monster sold between that March 2019 update and when it was certified in March 2020 (which would lower that 3.35M figure, and subsequently The Fame's estimated total, some) and how much of The Fame's 2020 consumption took place in that January-March 2020 timeframe (if more than the 12 month average took place in that 3 month span, than the total figure would be a bit lower, and vice versa), but...this is all to say that it's almost undoubtedly passing 10M Billboard units in the first half of this year.
Pop Art Posted January 8, 2022 Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Hot Volcano said: IKR? Imagine with the Fortnite concert, Sour Candy MV and all the cancelled promo.....this was probably her last chance ever of having a multi platinum studio album Do you know what is Joanne's total in the US by now? I assume it passed 1.4m Also, sorry I didn't see this part of your post — I'm not 100% sure on Joanne's numbers, but since it was at 1.3M as of May 2020, I think it's fair to say it's passed 1.4M by now? I have no idea how much it's moving weekly though. Honestly though, I'm confident ARTPOP and Chromatica will crawl past 2M eventually, especially if the former gets some type of revival with the whole social media movement from last year and if the latter gets some type of revival from the tour and any parts of the pre-planned era for it they're still holding onto.
Virtual_Insanity Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Pop Art said: On that note...it's likely very, very close to 10M by now using Billboard's methodology. Here's the breakdown. We know that as of March 2020, The Fame is at 6M and The Fame Monster 5M per the RIAA. We also know that as of March 2019, The Fame Monster sold 1.65M pure. Using these numbers — and knowing that all SEA and TEA for The Fame Monster is going to The Fame using Billboard's methodology — if we subtract 1.65M (The Fame Monster pure sales as of March 2019) from 5M (The Fame Monster RIAA SPS as of March 2020) to get The Fame Monster's SEA + TEA and then add that number to The Fame's RIAA SPS, we will get The Fame's Billboard SPS as of March 2020: 5M - 1.65M = 3.35M 6M + 3.35M = 9.35M If we then add an averaged 9 months of its 2020 SPS (since we have to assume that ~January-March 2020 was likely included in that March 2020 RIAA certification) and its full 2021 SPS from Billboard's 2020 and 2021 year-end reports (so 560K), we get a rough total of 9.91M units using Billboard methodology. It could be lower or higher depending on how much The Fame Monster sold between that March 2019 update and when it was certified in March 2020 (which would lower that 3.35M figure, and subsequently The Fame's estimated total, some) and how much of The Fame's 2020 consumption took place in that January-March 2020 timeframe (if more than the 12 month average took place in that 3 month span, than the total figure would be a bit lower, and vice versa), but...this is all to say that it's almost undoubtedly passing 10M Billboard units in the first half of this year. This is extremely flawed becayse the 3.35 million has already been attributed to The Fame Monster with it certification. Its done and gone. You cannot take that and add it on to the Fame also. The TEA and SEA are all being counted together NOW, but the part that was used to certify The Fame Monster seperately for it is for it only.
Pop Art Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 2 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: This is extremely flawed becayse the 3.35 million has already been attributed to The Fame Monster with it certification. Its done and gone. You cannot take that and add it on to the Fame also. The TEA and SEA are all being counted together NOW, but the part that was used to certify The Fame Monster seperately for it is for it only. Firstly, why are you in the receipts thread of an artist you don't like? And secondly, um...what? You're mixing two different methodologies together. Billboard's methodology of counting SEA and TEA for The Fame and The Fame Monster is entirely different than how the RIAA does it — Billboard has always counted all SEA and TEA from the latter towards the former, while the RIAA has always separated them. You're right, the 3.35M figure is indeed attributed to The Fame Monster...for RIAA purposes, but not for Billboard purposes, which my post was trying to estimate with the data we have available. At the end of the day, RIAA and Billboard album units usually mirror one another pretty well, meaning there's not much point in distinguishing them normally, but since they both view these albums so differently, it's a fair point to draw the distinction. To summarize, there's no double counting here because basically I'm saying that per RIAA's methodology, The Fame is at 6M+ and The Fame Monster is at 5M+ (this is a fact, as they were both respectively certified as such in March 2020), and I'm then using that and other data we have to estimate that, per Billboard's methodology, The Fame is at around 9.91M and The Fame Monster is at 1.65M+.
jijie101 Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: This is extremely flawed becayse the 3.35 million has already been attributed to The Fame Monster with it certification. Its done and gone. You cannot take that and add it on to the Fame also. The TEA and SEA are all being counted together NOW, but the part that was used to certify The Fame Monster seperately for it is for it only. You clearly don't know what you're talking about, it's two different methodologies by Billboard and RIAA
Mystic Boy Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 7 hours ago, Virtual_Insanity said: This is extremely flawed becayse the 3.35 million has already been attributed to The Fame Monster with it certification. Its done and gone. You cannot take that and add it on to the Fame also. The TEA and SEA are all being counted together NOW, but the part that was used to certify The Fame Monster seperately for it is for it only.
Virtual_Insanity Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 17 hours ago, Pop Art said: Firstly, why are you in the receipts thread of an artist you don't like? And secondly, um...what? You're mixing two different methodologies together. Billboard's methodology of counting SEA and TEA for The Fame and The Fame Monster is entirely different than how the RIAA does it — Billboard has always counted all SEA and TEA from the latter towards the former, while the RIAA has always separated them. You're right, the 3.35M figure is indeed attributed to The Fame Monster...for RIAA purposes, but not for Billboard purposes, which my post was trying to estimate with the data we have available. At the end of the day, RIAA and Billboard album units usually mirror one another pretty well, meaning there's not much point in distinguishing them normally, but since they both view these albums so differently, it's a fair point to draw the distinction. To summarize, there's no double counting here because basically I'm saying that per RIAA's methodology, The Fame is at 6M+ and The Fame Monster is at 5M+ (this is a fact, as they were both respectively certified as such in March 2020), and I'm then using that and other data we have to estimate that, per Billboard's methodology, The Fame is at around 9.91M and The Fame Monster is at 1.65M+. Oh yeah makes sense as The Fame Monsters chart run was pre streaming. No idea why she was so messy about it - it should have been a reissue or a new album. Just pick one Edited January 9, 2022 by Virtual_Insanity
Infernal Paradise Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 Um why is that troll in here? OT: @Summer Boy ROM update! Another L for OGHs
chosensparkles Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Marry Illusion Glory said: Um why is that troll in here? OT: @Summer Boy ROM update! Another L for OGHs They are always obsessed with her, what can we say? Probably checking to see if her stats are good enough to stan her now since BoTS are gonna be losing their #1’s with the new Billboard rule…
Chaos Angel Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 Average Spotify Daily Catalog Streams Over Time Spoiler Just Dance — 2018: 134k 2019: 193k 2020: 277k 2021: 399k Poker Face — 2018: 208k 2019: 254k 2020: 319k 2021: 443k LoveGame — 2018: 38k 2019: 54k 2020: 70k 2021: 99k Paparazzi — 2018: 82k 2019: 109k 2020: 166k 2021: 190k Bad Romance — 2018: 203k 2019: 257k 2020: 356k 2021: 484k Telephone — 2018: 134k 2019: 175k 2020: 194k 2021: 199k Alejandro — 2018: 71k 2019: 94k 2020: 115k 2021: 127k Born This Way — 2018: 99k 2019: 152k 2020: 194k 2021: 254k Judas — 2018: 44k 2019: 59k 2020: 80k 2021: 147k The Edge of Glory — 2018: 47k 2019: 78k 2020: 88k 2021: 120k Yoü and I — 2018: 41k 2019: 64k 2020: 57k 2021: 55k Marry The Night — 2018: 27k 2019: 35k 2020: 36k 2021: 40k Applause — 2018: 77k 2019: 86k 2020: 111k 2021: 139k G.U.Y. — 2018: 25k 2019: 34k 2020: 41k 2021: 42k Perfect Illusion — 2018: 66k 2019: 57k 2020: 48k 2021: 42k Million Reasons — 2018: 290k 2019: 331k 2020: 248k 2021: 246k Shallow — 2020: 1.045m 2021: 908k Always Remember Us This Way — 2020: 463k 2021: 466k I'll Never Love Again — 2020: 267k 2021: 214k
Artur Posted January 14, 2022 Posted January 14, 2022 5 hours ago, Chaos Angel said: Average Spotify Daily Catalog Streams Over Time Hide contents Just Dance — 2018: 134k 2019: 193k 2020: 277k 2021: 399k Poker Face — 2018: 208k 2019: 254k 2020: 319k 2021: 443k LoveGame — 2018: 38k 2019: 54k 2020: 70k 2021: 99k Paparazzi — 2018: 82k 2019: 109k 2020: 166k 2021: 190k Bad Romance — 2018: 203k 2019: 257k 2020: 356k 2021: 484k Telephone — 2018: 134k 2019: 175k 2020: 194k 2021: 199k Alejandro — 2018: 71k 2019: 94k 2020: 115k 2021: 127k Born This Way — 2018: 99k 2019: 152k 2020: 194k 2021: 254k Judas — 2018: 44k 2019: 59k 2020: 80k 2021: 147k The Edge of Glory — 2018: 47k 2019: 78k 2020: 88k 2021: 120k Yoü and I — 2018: 41k 2019: 64k 2020: 57k 2021: 55k Marry The Night — 2018: 27k 2019: 35k 2020: 36k 2021: 40k Applause — 2018: 77k 2019: 86k 2020: 111k 2021: 139k G.U.Y. — 2018: 25k 2019: 34k 2020: 41k 2021: 42k Perfect Illusion — 2018: 66k 2019: 57k 2020: 48k 2021: 42k Million Reasons — 2018: 290k 2019: 331k 2020: 248k 2021: 246k Shallow — 2020: 1.045m 2021: 908k Always Remember Us This Way — 2020: 463k 2021: 466k I'll Never Love Again — 2020: 267k 2021: 214k Paparazzi, Alejandro, TEOG and Applause
Summer Boy Posted January 15, 2022 Author Posted January 15, 2022 Shallow 4x Platinum (2,400,000) in the UK !
Hot Volcano Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 26 minutes ago, DonnieDarko said: I really doubt this methodology is correct. The biggest two markets : US : ~1.13m UK : 0.17k you are telling me that in the rest of the world it did ~2.4m SPS? Hm, I really doubt it.
chosensparkles Posted January 16, 2022 Posted January 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Hot Volcano said: I really doubt this methodology is correct. The biggest two markets : US : ~1.13m UK : 0.17k you are telling me that in the rest of the world it did ~2.4m SPS? Hm, I really doubt it. Chartmasters had it at 2.97M units without the pure sales update. My guess is that it’s at 3.2M
Summer Boy Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 Chromatica is now Platinum in Italy (50k).
Gagacharts Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 On 1/16/2022 at 7:36 PM, Hot Volcano said: I really doubt this methodology is correct. The biggest two markets : US : ~1.13m UK : 0.17k you are telling me that in the rest of the world it did ~2.4m SPS? Hm, I really doubt it. Chromatica gains aroun 25% of it´s streams & 15% of it´s views from the US. It has ~700k streaming units from the US. Based on the upper percentage, it moved around 2.1M streaming units worldwide. If you add all of it together 2.8M (streaming) +850k (pure) + 170K (digital & phasical singles) = 3.820.000 Given the fact, that some countries weighten streams less or more, it´s definitely possible that its moved more than 3.7M album units WW.
jijie101 Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 13 hours ago, Summer Boy said: Chromatica is now Platinum in Italy (50k). A Global hit album
vince_martin88 Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 Lovegame going viral on TikTok. Hopefully it crosses 200M this year. That way, all TFM singles would at least have 200M streams each
Temporal Posted January 24, 2022 Posted January 24, 2022 US Album Sales A Star Is Born - 1,260,000 Love For Sale - 138,000 Dawn Of Chromatica - 8,700 1
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