Summer Boy Posted August 20, 2019 Author Posted August 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Samuel. said: Why aren't we counting singles CSPC too? Just like the albums. The numbers are very impressive, a true artist who never needed to release trendy music or collabs with literally anyone to sell, and there she is, slaying with 62.5m albums WOW Singles are already included in CSPC tho. But yeah her numbers are truly impressive, if only she did some collabs... Rihanna's CSPC total is 93m and 20m come from collabs / stand alone singles.
Vo_nguyen Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 9 hours ago, Yelero said: March 18 August 19 They're underestimating her streaming for a star is born. It has over 2 billion streams from Spotify alone, that's equal to 1.33 million SPS. With other streaming services and Youtube combined that number should be over 3 million SPS. Which would put the album at 6.6 million SPS. This number matches up with what Billboard reported months earlier (that it crossed the 6 million SPS mark).
Cryptique Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Vo_nguyen said: They're underestimating her streaming for a star is born. It has over 2 billion streams from Spotify alone, that's equal to 1.33 million SPS. With other streaming services and Youtube combined that number should be over 3 million SPS. Which would put the album at 6.6 million SPS. This number matches up with what Billboard reported months earlier (that it crossed the 6 million SPS mark). CSPC is weighing YT less based on the revenue Label relesse: 1500 Youtube views = 1album CSPC = 11750 Views = 1 album
cuneytb Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 I just look at this and think that Gaga is more of a mess for not releasing more singles from ASIB 1 single and 2 promo singles is just NOT how an era works, especially when she could smash with all 3 of them back to back Even Music To My Eyes and Is That Alright were waiting for their time to shine.
Vo_nguyen Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Cryptique said: CSPC is weighing YT less based on the revenue Label relesse: 1500 Youtube views = 1album CSPC = 11750 Views = 1 album CSPC just been exposed for being biased and using bogus sources for their numbers. They're not reliable. 11750 = 1 sps is indeed wrong, and how do you know that her label accounts 1500 = 1sps? there are no confirmation or breakdown of the numbers anywhere.
Cryptique Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 7 minutes ago, Vo_nguyen said: CSPC just been exposed for being biased and using bogus sources for their numbers. They're not reliable. 11750 = 1 sps is indeed wrong, and how do you know that her label accounts 1500 = 1sps? there are no confirmation or breakdown of the numbers anywhere. Sis.. BB and HDD aren't reliable WW Sources.. only IFPI is It's just like Capitol claiming WITNESS sold 3M+ SPS.. same case is Reputation at 8M+ as per HDD.. both are using 1500 Youtube views = 1album ASIB is not the first album to post lower CSPC than what was reported by BB or HDD or Label.. CSPC isn't official anyway, so if y'all don't like it.. don't use it
Cryptique Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 (edited) I mean, make a breakdown of sales and you will never get past 3M Pure Sales.. 2.93M Pure was actually on-point 1.5M SPS from Spotify 2B+ streams.. So that's ~4.5M and say ~5M with digital song sales factored.. ~5M from Sales (ALbum and Songs) and Spotify. Do you really think it pulled more than 1.5M Units from other streaming services??? No, i don't think so, unless you consider Youtube Views as equal to audio streams, YES Edited August 21, 2019 by Cryptique
Cryptique Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 On-Point Pure Sales estimates ASIB's Global Sales as per ChartMasters USA - 1.18M Canada - 160k UK - 360k Germany - 225k France - 260k Italy - 50k Spain - 17.5k Netherlands - 25k Sweden - 5k Switzerland - 35k Austria - 17.5k Finland - 1k Japan - 52.5k Australia - 175k New Zealand - 30k Brazil - 10k Mexico - 10k Argentina - 5k Total Overall: 2.93M
Vo_nguyen Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, Cryptique said: I mean, make a breakdown of sales and you will never get past 3M Pure Sales.. 2.93M Pure was actually on-point 1.5M SPS from Spotify 2B+ streams.. So that's ~4.5M and say ~5M with digital song sales factored.. ~5M from Sales (ALbum and Songs) and Spotify. Do you really think it pulled more than 1.5M Units from other streaming services??? No, i don't think so, unless you consider Youtube Views as equal to audio streams, YES Yer it definitely could pull 1.5M SPS from other streaming services, Spotify only accounts for about 45-50% of total on demand audio streams.
Cryptique Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 24 minutes ago, Vo_nguyen said: Yer it definitely could pull 1.5M SPS from other streaming services, Spotify only accounts for about 45-50% of total on demand audio streams. Well, that's the problem.. we don't have the numbers from other streaming service aside from YT.. And as stated, YT was weighed less And that he fixed Audio streams at Spotify no.s times 1.6 or something.. meaning 10B Streams in Spotify equals 16B Audio Streams overall.. It's not his fault if his overall Audio Streams are less than the actual.. it's just that he set a fixed multiplier for evryone.. it's even a disadvantage for rappers mind you (big AM Artists) Meaning.. it's his own work, his RULES What's not clicking?
Vo_nguyen Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cryptique said: Well, that's the problem.. we don't have the numbers from other streaming service aside from YT.. And as stated, YT was weighed less And that he fixed Audio streams at Spotify no.s times 1.6 or something.. meaning 10B Streams in Spotify equals 16B Audio Streams overall.. It's not his fault if his overall Audio Streams are less than the actual.. it's just that he set a fixed multiplier for evryone.. it's even a disadvantage for rappers mind you (big AM Artists) Meaning.. it's his own work, his RULES What's not clicking? What's not clicking is that people like you use him as a source rather than an established publication like billboard of HDD. THat's the real problem here.
Cryptique Posted August 21, 2019 Posted August 21, 2019 Just now, Vo_nguyen said: What's not clicking is that people like you use him as a source rather than an established publication like billboard of HDD. THat's the real problem here. It's my choice.. BB and HDD are not official sources for Global Sales.. Like HDD Reported Reputation is at 8M+ SPS last year.. but do i believe that..? nope, it's my choice.. am i attacking HDD?? Nope, they have their own ways
Rusty Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 Is Born This Way (album) eligible for 4x plat in USA?
Cryptique Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 52 minutes ago, Rusty said: Is Born This Way (album) eligible for 4x plat in USA? Yes.. for a while now i believe
Dr.Cake Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 4 hours ago, Rusty said: Is Born This Way (album) eligible for 4x plat in USA? Pure sales: 2,475,000 copies TEA: 1,200,000 units SEA: ~400,000 units = 4,075,000 units
Rusty Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 4 minutes ago, Dr.Cake said: Pure sales: 2,475,000 copies TEA: 1,200,000 units SEA: ~400,000 units = 4,075,000 units 3 hours ago, Cryptique said: Yes.. for a while now i believe Nice, thanks guys. Guessing C2C will never hit 1 x Plat, but how long will ARTPOP and Joanne take to manage a second Plat notch with streaming adding on year on year...?
Dr.Cake Posted August 26, 2019 Posted August 26, 2019 1 hour ago, Rusty said: Nice, thanks guys. Guessing C2C will never hit 1 x Plat, but how long will ARTPOP and Joanne take to manage a second Plat notch with streaming adding on year on year...? ARTPOP has tragic recurrent streams and sales, so considering it’s probably stuck ar around 1,45 million SPS, I can’t see it ever hitting the 2x Platinum mark. Joanne, despite having better current stats than ARTPOP and MR getting nice streaming boosts every now and then, is still at about 1,25 million RIAA units, so it will take probably a decade for it at this point to reach double platinum status. If The Cure would have been included in the Joanne era, it would have added an additional 110k+ units to its total. I do see Joanne overtaking ARTPOP in total SPS units in the upcoming years though.
WildAmerican Posted August 27, 2019 Posted August 27, 2019 Shallow enters the list of most-streamed songs on Spotify at #99 #99: Shallow (NEW) #100: I Feel It Coming (-1)
Cryptique Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 CANADIAN HOT 100 Year-End pred. (2019) - week 40. 1. Sunflower - 3822 2. Without Me - 3760 3. Happier - 3701 4. Shallow - 3658 5. Sicko Mode - 3129* 6. Wow. - 3115 7. High Hopes - 2964* 8. Eastside - 2937* 9. Sweet But Psycho - 2855 10. 7 rings - 2795 11. Dancing with a Stranger - 2775 12. Girls Like You - 2687* 13. Thank U, Next - 2669* 14. Sucker - 2328 15. Old Town Road - 2321 16. Going Bad - 2278* 17. Talk - 2152 18. bad guy - 2061 19. YoungBlood - 1906* 20. Con Calma - 1902 Shallow will rise to #3 next week since 'Happier' will become super recurrent due to Lover's tracks. *went recurrent. From UKMIX
Cryptique Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 Shallow's Canadian Units (est.) TOTAL: 846,000 From UKMIX Interflop
Cryptique Posted August 28, 2019 Posted August 28, 2019 34k Units away from 11x Platinum but still at 2x Plat Cert
Summer Boy Posted August 30, 2019 Author Posted August 30, 2019 Shallow is now 2x Platinum in the UK, her third song to do so (Just Dance is coming in a few days).
Yelero Posted September 1, 2019 Posted September 1, 2019 August 8,843,722 Followers (+344,881) 28,118,263 Monthly Listeners This Is Lady Gaga - 791,223 Followers (+27,828) The Fame Just Dance - 217,645,067 (+5,854,799) LoveGame - 76,879,234 (+1,605,755) Paparazzi - 134,519,860 (+3,238,420) Poker Face - 327,305,833 (+7,527,908) Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say) - 33,893,940 (+402,036) Beautiful, Dirty, Rich - 24,935,083 (+466,636) The Fame - 19,046,873 (+360,483) Money Honey - 13,599,590 (+191,877) Starstruck - 26,417,092 (+333,474) Boys Boys Boys - 23,899,483 (+282,299) Paper Gangsta - 17,148,445 (+212,368) Brown Eyes - 11,504,973 (+161,137) I Like It Rough - 14,573,446 (+177,193) Summerboy - 11,759,074 (+187,298) Disco Heaven - 5,983,356 (+83,960) Retro, Dance, Freak - 2,002,503 (+18,637) Total: 961,113,852 (+21,104,280) The Fame Monster Bad Romance - 327,354,536 (+7,696,997) Alejandro - 145,110,153 (+2,807,396) Monster - 35,841,025 (+480,265) Speechless - 34,331,163 (+633,335) Dance In The Dark - 24,588,021 (+351,566) Telephone - 237,644,721 (+5,294,341) So Happy I Could Die - 24,112,199 (+448,812) Teeth - 24,929,117 (+491,688) Total: 853,910,935 (+18,204,400) Born This Way Marry The Night - 53,595,884 (+1,007,922) Born This Way - 176,312,329 (+4,857,767) Government Hooker - 14,263,892 (+216,705) Judas - 83,326,961 (+1,751,207) Americano - 19,540,997 (+340,388) Hair - 20,089,248 (+413,263) Scheiße - 21,439,773 (+347,930) Bloody Mary - 18,177,865 (+366,846) Black Jesus + Amen Fashion - 5,478,023 (+94,396) Bad Kids - 9,470,865 (+129,766) Fashion Of His Love - 5,364,271 (+89,221) Highway Unicorn (Road to Love) - 8,447,649 (+118,129) Heavy Metal Lover - 12,223,468 (+197,902) Electric Chapel - 8,394,664 (+128,533) The Queen - 4,237,080 (+73,333) Yoü And I - 73,116,811 (+1,969,487) The Edge Of Glory - 100,868,789 (+2,449,341) Total: 634,348,569 (+14,552,136) ARTPOP Aura - 16,494,196 (+244,945) Venus - 34,629,503 (+676,473) G.U.Y. - 50,362,491 (+1,029,240) Sexxx Dreams - 21,130,112 (+316,031) Jewels N' Drugs - 9,973,475 (+122,638) MANiCURE - 16,027,901 (+217,962) Do What U Want - 119,878,551 ARTPOP - 22,433,045 (+475,232) Swine - 14,344,244 (+198,269) Donatella - 21,962,164 (+391,907) Fashion! - 14,044,489 (+218,574) Mary Jane Holland - 11,579,536 (+167,699) Dope - 12,134,994 (+158,567) Gypsy - 19,265,334 (+246,036) Applause - 214,077,399 (+2,646,040) Total: 598,337,434 (+7,109,613) Joanne Diamond Heart - 36,440,796 (+592,141) A-YO - 57,814,631 (+739,134) Joanne - 47,185,645 (+930,166) John Wayne - 65,433,973 (+996,554) Dancin' In Circles - 37,797,784 (+566,332) Perfect Illusion - 146,958,345 (+1,598,577) Million Reasons - 369,969,800 (+8,814,118) Sinner's Prayer - 27,935,274 (+355,896) Come to Mama - 23,819,920 (+293,228) Hey Girl - 28,467,794 (+422,172) Angel Down - 22,813,433 (+315,171) Grigio Girls - 23,548,477 (+310,029) Just Another Day - 19,413,477 (+254,583) Angel Down (Work Tape) - 14,639,058 (+184,620) Total: 922,238,407 (+16,372,721) A Star Is Born Black Eyes - 44,820,865 (+1,758,069) La Vie En Rose - 36,453,062 (+1,563,830) Maybe It's Time - 66,323,859 (+3,088,683) Out Of Time - 36,653,973 (+1,340,366) Alibi - 35,588,884 (+1,379,122) Shallow - 823,489,063 (+44,459,556) Music To My Eyes - 69,251,894 (+2,513,180) Diggin' My Grave - 48,333,303 (+1,678,625) Always Remember Us This Way - 298,074,798 (+18,396,580) Look What I Found - 77,920,126 (+2,898,371) Heal Me - 46,636,651 (+1,737,123) I Don't Know What Love Is - 49,836,994 (+2,102,783) Is That Alright? - 60,710,629 (+2,572,059) Why Did You Do That - 38,546,403 (+1,342,297) Hair Body Face - 28,794,552 (+971,896) Before I Cry - 30,981,802 (+1,157,096) Too Far Gone - 27,934,721 (+1,062,751) I'll Never Love Again (Film Version) - 130,070,894 (+7,169,433) I'll Never Love Again (Extended) - 77,270,405 (+3,771,435) Dialogues Intro - 21,992 (+685) Somewhere Over the Rainbow - 12,457,596 (+580,851) Fabulous French - 13,252 (+486) I'll Wait for You - 15,736 (+583) Parking Lot - 12,516,144 (+565,963) Trust Me - 10,128,682 (+445,820) First Stop, Arizona - 1,127 (+48) I Love You - 28,967 (+960) Unbelievable - 45,826 (+1,839) How Do You Hear It? - 2,424 (+102) Memphis - 21,683 (+878) Vows - 15,165 (+558) SNL - 2,186 (+109) Scene 98 - 7,534,140 (+328,478) Twelve Notes - 7,489,278 (+333,185) Total: 2,077,987,076 (+103,223,800)
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