Miseducation Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Monster Megamind said: In the end... Radio can make or break a chart performance! I would have been mad too if my faves LEAD single couldn't even get 40m radio audience sweetie .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhreshDiamond Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Just now, Raster said: Taylor penned the song and probably got more money from it than Rihanna anyway she should get most of the credit for the song becoming a hit she shouldn't, didn't and won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Nation Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 hours ago, Starkboy said: FFS - Kanye/Paul's power!!! BBHMM - local!!11 Work - Drake's power!11 TIWYCF - Calvin's power!11 Needed Me - streamss!11 LOTB - radio!111 I can feel the desperation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miseducation Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Raster said: Taylor penned the song and probably got more money from it than Rihanna anyway she should get most of the credit for the song becoming a hit No. because TIWYC4 was released through Rihanna's label and Sony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Nation Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Like, TiWYCF was already a Top 5 hit, and was closing into the Top 3 BEFORE the Taylor debacle. I don't get what y'all are arguing about here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubbleGomme Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The excuses. Rih wins every.single.time, give it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marianah Adkins Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The only boost that it recieved from Taylor's reveal is it boosted the song in the US. Worldwide, it was already smashing hard. It didn't need Taylor or any controversy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Overboard Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Big Sean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simmnfierzig Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I mean it's possible that people liked the song because Taylor wrote it, without knowing that Taylor wrote. But there is no way of knowing that so really no point in debating it. But I'm surprised how surprised the Rihanna stans are about this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monster Megamind Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 21 minutes ago, Miseducation said: I would have been mad too if my faves LEAD single couldn't even get 40m radio audience sweetie .... drag me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cz! Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 33 minutes ago, DangerousSwiftie said: It was though. The song really grew after the Taylor writing credit was revealed and there was some controversy around it. The song was already a hit before that. The Taylor/Calvin drama did give it a good extra push, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starkboy Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 48 minutes ago, simmnfierzig said: Of course some do. Well it was flopping before the revelation so it must be true People watched it +1B times because of Taylor's writing too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timecables Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 42 minutes ago, Raster said: Taylor penned the song and probably got more money from it than Rihanna anyway she should get most of the credit for the song becoming a hit Rihanna split copyright on the song with Columbia, she most likely pocketed around 20-25% of the streaming payout. Calvin ~15%, Taylor ~5%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Other most radio fueled to get into the T10, in the streaming era: Scars to Your Beautiful, Don't, Clarity, Photograph, Ain't it Fun, Love Somebody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylor__fan Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, timecables said: Rihanna split copyright on the song with Columbia, she most likely pocketed around 20-25% of the streaming payout. Calvin ~15%, Taylor ~5%. Billboard estimated it back in July (when the song was starting to be bigger) and Taylor wins more money than Rihanna http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7438227/how-taylor-swift-calvin-harris-rihanna-made-this-is-what-you-came-here-for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fridayteenage Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 Oh so an ATRL user's randomly made up numbers were inaccurate? shocking. Taylor wins again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timecables Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 (edited) 14 minutes ago, taylor__fan said: Billboard estimated it back in July (when the song was starting to be bigger) and Taylor wins more money than Rihanna http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/pop/7438227/how-taylor-swift-calvin-harris-rihanna-made-this-is-what-you-came-here-for They forgot to include Rihanna's share as a label owner. Quote Between sales and streams, the label will take in about $1.2 million. If Harris has a record contract that pays 22 cents on the dollar (a split usually reserved for bankable stars), then his take, before recoupables (money the label has "fronted" for marketing, production and the like), will be about $272,000. Since Harris also produced the song, he will get 4 points out of the 22 percent artist royalty, which would leave 18 percent to be split between Harris and Rihanna. If it was split evenly, Harris’ total take as the artist and producer so far, before recoupable, would be about $161,000 and Rihanna’s about $111,000. Westbury Road gets a decent chunk of that $1.2 million. Edited February 19, 2017 by timecables Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UNNAMI Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Starkboy said: FFS - Kanye/Paul's power!!! BBHMM - local!!11 Work - Drake's power!11 TIWYCF - Calvin's power!11 Needed Me - streamss!11 LOTB - radio!111 I can feel the desperation yeah. they feel pressed. and Million Reasons got #4 because of being good song, not becuase super bowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umich Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 6 hours ago, Starkboy said: FFS - Kanye/Paul's power!!! BBHMM - local!!11 Work - Drake's power!11 TIWYCF - Calvin's power!11 Needed Me - streamss!11 LOTB - radio!111 I can feel the desperation this is so accurate. I can't at folks discrediting her success. It must hurt them knowing that their faves won't ever be relevant on the Hot 100 anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpartyrocker Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 The fact that everytime an artist goes top ten we're like "*insert artist name* won" but now it's more like Rihanna lost, LOTB won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEUTRON Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 On 2/16/2017 at 10:58 AM, ChartsFan said: Sales will remain the predominate form as long as they continue to pay the bills for the music industry. until streaming finds a way to finance the music industry, and they certainly aren't there yet, sales will remain a vital part of any chart composition. Moral or not. Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpartyrocker Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, umich said: this is so accurate. I can't at folks discrediting her success. It must hurt them knowing that their faves won't ever be relevant on the Hot 100 anymore. When it's more like, Rihanna gave Paul and Kanye probably their last top 5 hit, calvin got known because of rihanna, drake got exposure and his first hit with Rihanna and the queen doesn't even need payola for radio or playlists on spotify for streams cos she still gets that top 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rowlet Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 1 hour ago, mrpartyrocker said: The fact that everytime an artist goes top ten we're like "*insert artist name* won" but now it's more like Rihanna lost, LOTB won poor her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Same Ol' Mistakes Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 I can't at people saying TIWYCF was a hit because of Taylor Swift. Does GP know she wrote the song? No. The excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armani? Posted February 19, 2017 Share Posted February 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Hurem said: 2 months in top 20 is great, wyd For a #1 peaking song......mmm....no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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