Despite being an icon and Australia's answer to Madonna. why doesn't Kylie™ have a bigger stan base on ATRL? She's been releasing quality music for years and the only dud she ever released was Kiss Me Once.

quality over quantity

She's a bit of nothing in terms of celebrity, no real personality outside of smiling, no scandal, nothing to hate on or debate about… what's to discuss and stan?

Because Tension 2 drove us all away

cus atrl is generally us-centric and kylie is an international legend who has had middling success in the us

2 minutes ago, Punky Rooster said:

She's a bit of nothing in terms of celebrity, no real personality outside of smiling, no scandal, nothing to hate on or debate about… what's to discuss and stan?

When has a pop artist not having scandals or any celebrity ever stopped from having a stan base on ATRL?

21 minutes ago, Ghostface91 said:

When has a pop artist not having scandals or any celebrity ever stopped from having a stan base on ATRL?

No, I mean she's not as present because nothing rarely happens in her world, she releases the same dance pop album every year or two, goes on a budget tour and then releases a Christmas album or song. Theres not much there to Stan or talk about.

I am a Lover.

Sorry, but she hasn't released quality music for years.

Because ATRL hates Australian artists.

Somehow she just swept the top 3 of this rate that also featured Britney and Beyonce:

It seems she just have many stans lurking here, they just aren't that passionate about her

because her last good album was released in 2007

10 minutes ago, California said:

because her last good album was released in 2007

Amy Winehouse teas

1 hour ago, Punky Rooster said:

No, I mean she's not as present because nothing rarely happens in her world, she releases the same dance pop album every year or two, goes on a budget tour and then releases a Christmas album or song. Theres not much there to Stan or talk about.

Not this when people stan nothingburger artists like Taylor Swift.

agę.

Her last good full body of work was X since then is trying hard to be big as such

Also ATRL hates older singers let alone older international successful artists

I don't know what you mean by that cause all of her album releases have multiple pages, to the degree that's she's considered a legacy artist.

She got a new wave of fans with Padam and her last tour is very commented (and rightfully scrutinised) on ATRL.

Other than that, she won that infamous 2003 rate cause her album was simply the best

12 hours ago, Icarus said:

Somehow she just swept the top 3 of this rate that also featured Britney and Beyonce:

It seems she just have many stans lurking here, they just aren't that passionate about her

Wait omg

Slow deserves it for sure, one of the best records ever made ahhh

Majority of ATRL stans commercial success (especially based in the US) or whoever new artist is perceived like the new cool Pitchfork thing that sounds edgy to stan, unfortunately Kylie has neither of them, other than being past her prime, she has never thrived in the US market and at the same time she's not seen enough cool nowadays like a Charli XCX kind of artist, which it's a shame because I do think she perfectly execute pop music for a female popstar in her 50s with the right balance of showing maturity without being demodè and not trying too hard to appeal a young demographic.

13 hours ago, Punky Rooster said:

No, I mean she's not as present because nothing rarely happens in her world, she releases the same dance pop album every year or two, goes on a budget tour and then releases a Christmas album or song. Theres not much there to Stan or talk about.

What is supposed to happen in her world at her age especially considering she is literally a cancer survivor.

The ignorance of this reply as if she needs scandals or to act silly in her late 50s in order for people to appreciate her when her last albums are critically acclaimed and won a Grammy, not to mention like I said this woman is literally a cancer survivor and she had a bad one happened 20 years ago when cures were not even good as nowadays, the fact alone that she's alive and healthy and keep managing to stay in the business and doing that kind of work which is not easy is a big deal because not everybody recover after going through that.

"Australia's answer to Madonna"?

First off, Madonna was a global phenomenon, and a self made Woman that made it to the top on her own from sheer talent, determination and hard work, whereas Kylie was pushed into the spotlight as a child actor, and went on to star in Neighbours, which became one of the biggest Australian soap's ever in the UK and Australia, in the same way Prisoner Cell Block H, Sons and Daughters, and Home and Away were. From then on, she used that TV show (which was aired TWICE a day) as a springboard to music. This was at a time when Peter Waterman from the hitmaking trio (responsible for generating hits for Rick Astley, Bananarama, and Sinitta, ect) heard about her from Neighbours, and had her fly out to London to give her a hit, yet when she arrived she was made to wait while they were recording with other artists. (Mike Stock didn't even know who she was)

They also signed her (talentless) co-star, Jason Donovan from Neighbours, and the fact he got a four #1 hit singles and a #1 album out of it should tell you how big the power of Neighbours and S.A.W were combined.

Madonna didn't benefit from being in the biggest Australian soap and she wasn't manufactured by the biggest hit makers of the mid-late 80s either. In fact, she had a hand in everything from her look, the choreography, and the writing of her music. Everything she did came from herself.

Kylie was stretched, pulled and manufactured to the maximum during her first four albums until the GP moved on from both S.A.W and Kylie's music.

Madonna became a global icon with her second album, and she's been on top ever since because the majority of her catalogue, videography and tours are top quality, because she progressed and hasn't been pigeonholed into constantly churning out dance tunes for her stans. They're not the same, and that's why Kylie doesn't have a bigger base here or anywhere else.

Edited March 8Mar 8 by 2000_Volts